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Fighter for Justice, on Aug 15 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

Puck, I see Dr Inglis did your surgery. I knew someone on ACC (approx 20 years ago) who had surgery done by Dr Inglis. At the initial Consultation a limited procedure was agreed to by ACC claimant.
Patient got pre-med at hospital and surgeon (Mr Inglis) showed the person her x-rays and said (for the millionth time) that she needed a spinal fusion. He asked patient to sign agreeing to this, she signed the forms and got surgery she was not initially willing to have done.
Surgery not 100% successful and person in a lot of pain - ACC paid for a car, home help, and 3 years university study.

I am repeating this accurately to the best of my memory (over 20 years old). Claimant believed ACC very helpful to her because of Mr Inglis actions e.g. under pre-med, asked to agree to surgery previously refused, signed and surgery not entirely successful.

Starts to sound like deja vu.
Fighter for Justice.

Hi there,
I really think any surgery is in the lap of the gods but these bone dr's at Burwood really know their business and give you the best chance of sucessful surgery.

However they do think they are god like and if you ask them questions post op like I did re pain, they tell you not focus on the pain and get over it and get on with your life!! At this point I felt like bashing them across the back with a baseball bat and telling them pain is an imbalance in your brain, don't focus on it, get up and get over it!!!!

Just walking out of a spinal ward you feel so humble to be one of the few lucky ones to do so.

While in there you meet many wonderful people in chairs who don't get the pain but have such a different life with many challenges ahead for both them and their families so I take my hat off to all of them.

I am learning to focus away from pain but it is a battle all day every day.

I don't believe there are many people who walk out after major spinal surgery who don't get pain but we get to walk and that is incrediable.

There are good pain killers out there for us if we get a good dr who understands pain.
My advise is to keep going to dr's until you get one that understands spinal pain.

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[jocko]

You're on to it puck. No pain no gain. We definitely earn our wages of pain.

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jocko, on Aug 15 2009, 11:19 PM, said:

You're on to it puck. No pain no gain. We definitely earn our wages of pain.

To bloody right Jocko

These acc or anon cm's would do well to have daily pain I'm thinking pain on a scale far greater than passing a humungus motion from hell and they would understand things a bit better

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[quote name='Sparrow' date='Aug 15 2009, 08:55 PM' post='88226']
Grahm Inglis is an ACC toady of the highest degree.
He told me after hearing that I had fallen 7 feet off a ladder and landed on the concrete floor, " Since ACC came into existence everyone blames an accident for their condition".I guess things just happen and you get a spinal injury for nothing does it??
But I would say this jerk has received a lot of dosh/lolly from ACC over the past 20 years!! Costs a lot to drive a porsche.

Neither trust WAlton.
I had a very bad experience with him. hmmmmm!
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I just thought they were typical arrogant saw dr's except they did the best job of my injuries they could do. They assisted each other with my surgery.

They certainly wouldn't listen to anyone including me about severe pain post surgery but the unit manager at Burwood Spinal unit who is a specialist in his own right said they don't see people who come back into the ward with worse conditions than they left so not to listen to what they have to say re pain as they don't want to know about it.

Did Inglis and Walton operate on you Sparrow?

What was the bad deal you had with them as I thought they were meant to be te best ???

[jocko]

I presume you all know that 80% of fusions fail? Not the other way around as promoted by ACC.
Consumer affairs researched it and there was a bit about it on radio. A surgeon stated he had done 34. 31 had failed and he expected the rest to go in the next few years this was about 10 years ago.
My specialist has told me I have done remarkably well to have come so far without surgery.
Donald Jones told me in 1992 if I fuse you you will just buggar the next one. We'll do that and then it will be the next one and so on. He recognised me as a genuine worker. One of ACCs favourite hitmen too. I'm too old now. My mate just had it done and it was a major medical misadventure. They encountered too much scar tissue and everything was too friable.That was two years ago and he is in and out of hospital cos he can't feel to shit and piss properly and gets terribly crook he is the toughest bastard in the game and the pain is killing him he is fading away to a shadow and has been in hospital again all this past week. That is what happens when ACC kicks you off and you go back to work with a crook back.

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jocko, on Aug 16 2009, 02:45 PM, said:

I presume you all know that 80% of fusions fail? Not the other way around as promoted by ACC.
Consumer affairs researched it and there was a bit about it on radio. A surgeon stated he had done 34. 31 had failed and he expected the rest to go in the next few years this was about 10 years ago.
My specialist has told me I have done remarkably well to have come so far without surgery.
Donald Jones told me in 1992 if I fuse you you will just buggar the next one. We'll do that and then it will be the next one and so on. He recognised me as a genuine worker. One of ACCs favourite hitmen too. I'm too old now. My mate just had it done and it was a major medical misadventure. They encountered too much scar tissue and everything was too friable.That was two years ago and he is in and out of hospital cos he can't feel to shit and piss properly and gets terribly crook he is the toughest bastard in the game and the pain is killing him he is fading away to a shadow and has been in hospital again all this past week. That is what happens when ACC kicks you off and you go back to work with a crook back.

No Jocko I didn't know the stats,
I just know I'm no whimp and it reduces me to tears.
I had lateral mass fractures, C5,6 & 7 and was accute for 7 days in traction before I was well enough for them to operate.
They said I wouldn't walk again and that made me determined to prove them wrong so I live in shocking pain but I walk but not without many problems, yes like your friend, I have to cathertirse myself and I have many other health issues related to the injury.
Now that I know from you the stats it wouldn't have made a difference to me as I had to have surgery but in your case I am proud of you for the suffering you do without surgery.
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