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#1 User is offline   Jack 

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Posted 24 June 2009 - 04:59 PM

Just had IOA today.

how many appointments do you have to go to ? the IOA wants me to come back next week ???

Just a few interesting things I noted

I made comment on John Key statement on Monday about 1000 workers a week signing up for the dole. He said you cant trust anything a politician says ! Didnt John Key get upset about being called a liar earlier in the week ?

IOA person said it was shocking I had no treatment for my back injury in the last 6 and half years.
He had a folder with about 5 or 6 pages of documents from ACC. So much for ACC supplying all relevent information.
Interesting the IOA person said my Specialist recomendations were no worth the paper they were written on due to the fact the Specialist was not trained in IOA's

As for independant assement, the fact his office was right across the road from the ACC building is a worry. He mentioned he used to work for other company doing IOA , that was also right across the road. How handy for these so called "Independant" assessors

I am have homework to do !
Task 1 - Abilities/Skills Identification
- What do I enjoy doing ?
- What am I good at >

Task 2 - Research areas of personal interest
- look at yellow pages
- newspaper ad for vacncies ( cut out those tht are of interests even if you don't think you have the skills they asking for )
- Newspaper Adverts for Products and Services
- Your Hobbies and Interests
- Things your Friends and family suggest
- Previous Jobs you have thought about in the past and discarded for what ever reason

regards
Jack
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Posted 24 June 2009 - 05:44 PM

Jack you did record the meeting, didn't you. If you didn't then no use to repeat what he said.

IOA have been completed as Two appointment in this area for some time.

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IOA person said it was shocking I had no treatment for my back injury in the last 6 and half years.
He had a folder with about 5 or 6 pages of documents from ACC. So much for ACC supplying all relevant information.
Interesting the IOA person said my Specialist recommendations were no worth the paper they were written on due to the fact the Specialist was not trained in IOA's


Ask ACC for the documentation that ACc supplied to the assessor. You need to check with the assessor to see if it is correct and relevant to the IOA. legislation states that it must be relevant.

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As for independent assessment, the fact his office was right across the road from the ACC building is a worry. He mentioned he used to work for other company doing IOA , that was also right across the road. How handy for these so called "Independent" assessors


It doesn't matter were the assessor does the reports from they are under contract to carry out the assessment and are given guide lines from the ACC policy.

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am have homework to do !
Task 1 - Abilities/Skills Identification
- What do I enjoy doing ?
- What am I good at >

Task 2 - Research areas of personal interest
- look at yellow pages
- newspaper ad for vacancies ( cut out those that are of interests even if you don't think you have the skills they asking for )
- Newspaper Adverts for Products and Services
- Your Hobbies and Interests
- Things your Friends and family suggest
- Previous Jobs you have thought about in the past and discarded for what ever reason


that is what I have been telling people to do before they see the assessor. If you decided to take a few pointers the assessor would now be doing the home work.

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Interesting the IOA person said my Specialist recommendations were no worth the paper they were written on due to the fact the Specialist was not trained in IOA's


IOA assessors are not trained medical professionals.

put it in writing and don't be surprise that they ask for a third appointment.

By what you have posted you have no employment as they are looking at trying to find you a part time job that you will be able to substainable and suitable.

Suggest that you take the relevant sections of the Act.

The more imput you have the greater and better out come that you will have.
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Posted 25 June 2009 - 07:46 AM

Jack, I had TWO APPOINTMENTS with IOA - when I went for IOA in May. At 2nd appointment IOA had Draft Report which suggested jobs. I asked for the "Job Work Detail Sheets" to take home and send in written comments on the suggested jobs. I forgot to ask for average salary for each suggested job.

I found the whole process a waste of time (I have Medical Reports stating am unfit to work 35 hours per week). Despite this ACC sent me to IOA. IOA has used papers passed at University (over many years) as evidence against me. IOA suggests I can be rehabilitated into work far beyond my capabilities, work experience and qualifications. I should add that some (if not all) of the jobs would be unattainable or sustainable by me with my injuries (and name on internet) - especially over 35 hours per week.

I paid for all university course (and related) costs. ACC have never paid for any vocational rehabilitation.

A word of warning: take a witness (wife/other person) to all appointments, openly tape the interview. Be very wary of being asked (as I was) for Referees names etc.
My husband was asked by IOA (after tape turned off): "and where do you work? She did not mean "where" but "where at" meaning employer.
I consider this irrelevant.

ACC have ignored my Specialist's Report stating I cannot work 35 hours per weeek. BUT in a recent dispute over (description of injuries already covered) ACC used the same Specialist's Report to deny me (my existing cover!).

Check the Pre-injury earnings figure put on IOA by ACC. In my case I believe it is very wrong. I pointed this out to IOA (giving her copy of old pay slips for verification). IOA and ACC are ignoring this.

Think very carefully what (if anything) your Medical Reports/yourself think you could do for 35 hours per week. (Claimants must be able to work 35 hours per week in order to be said to have "vocational independence" under IPRC Act).
Speak with GP (only if they are helpful). Study specialist's reports.
Buy a copy of IPRC Act (with all amendments) at Whitcoulls cost approx $35. The Act is not too difficult to understand - if you spend a reasonable amount of time studying it! The IPRC Act effectively tells you what your legal rights are and how ACC/IOA/IMA should go about things!

Be warned - I do not believe (based on experience) that the ACCa ppointed IOA is here to help you!
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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:29 PM

Sounds like you got a right one there! I think they sometimes see you twice, although I was only seen once when I had this type of assessment done the first time. What is it with the homework, does he not know how to do his job in once appointment!!

Who was it that you saw??

Cheers

View PostJack, on Jun 24 2009, 06:59 PM, said:

Just had IOA today.

how many appointments do you have to go to ? the IOA wants me to come back next week ???

Just a few interesting things I noted

I made comment on John Key statement on Monday about 1000 workers a week signing up for the dole. He said you cant trust anything a politician says ! Didnt John Key get upset about being called a liar earlier in the week ?

IOA person said it was shocking I had no treatment for my back injury in the last 6 and half years.
He had a folder with about 5 or 6 pages of documents from ACC. So much for ACC supplying all relevent information.
Interesting the IOA person said my Specialist recomendations were no worth the paper they were written on due to the fact the Specialist was not trained in IOA's

As for independant assement, the fact his office was right across the road from the ACC building is a worry. He mentioned he used to work for other company doing IOA , that was also right across the road. How handy for these so called "Independant" assessors

I am have homework to do !
Task 1 - Abilities/Skills Identification
- What do I enjoy doing ?
- What am I good at >

Task 2 - Research areas of personal interest
- look at yellow pages
- newspaper ad for vacncies ( cut out those tht are of interests even if you don't think you have the skills they asking for )
- Newspaper Adverts for Products and Services
- Your Hobbies and Interests
- Things your Friends and family suggest
- Previous Jobs you have thought about in the past and discarded for what ever reason

regards
Jack

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Posted 02 July 2009 - 08:43 PM

jack be careful ...i have been through it 4 times and they were all snakes in the grass with one agenda and thats to keep the acc happy..you will find most of them are either ex acc or winz case managers..one of the scumbags who did one of mine was a department of justice probation office who was moonlighting for extra money and he was a nasty piece of work...his mantra was "hey i gotta eat" so as fighter says record the low lifes and dont take any crap.
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