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#1 User is offline   Jack 

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 01:00 AM

hi,
have IOA and IMA coming. Have list of 3 doctors to choose from for the IOA

1) Dr David Waite

2) Dr M Antoniadis

3) Dr Jonathan Wright

any of these honest people ?

most greatful for any information on these 3

regards
Jack
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 07:05 AM

Jack - ACC originally gave me a choice of approximately 16 Doctors for IMA.
ACC then refused to send me to my original choice.
ACC then narrowed choice down to 5 or 6 (most toadies).

ACC are attempting to restrict your choice of Doctors!
Urgently write to your Case Manager asking for the full list of ACC Doctors for IMA's.

Then if ACC comply and give you full list - post options on ACCforum - someone is likely to have been to the various Doctors.

I have not been to any of the three choices of Doctors - but I have heard Antoniadis is to be avoided and I believe Dr Wright as well!

I suggest you take all relevant information to IMA e.g. all medical reports helpful to you, x-rays, scan results. Probably take a typed letter mentioning: all covered injuries (get list from ACC ), amount of any permanent disability, deteriorating injuries (e.g. need surgery/treatment/physio etc in future/now). Also mention your comments on jobs IOA has picked for you and why you could/could not do them - subject to all covered injuries (and consequences of injuries).

Take both a support person (and a cameraperson) + an audiotape to IMA Assessment. I believe ACC cannot refuse. I did this with a previous Medical Assessment (and was allowed to videotape). This ensures you have both support (moral) and a witness (person/video).

I am sure others on the forum can help advise you as well!
Good luck.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 07:31 AM

ACC do NOT have to give you a choice of doctors - I have it in writing from my CM.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 09:38 AM

Jack
I am about to see Antonaidis, have heard his reputation, I have also seen Wright.
Wright said jobs I could do, an I demanded he rethink those jobs, stating why I knew they were impossible for me to do..he came back with an amended report!
If you havent already, refuse to sign irp until they come up with a list of available Dr for assessment, I was given a choice of 2, I told them I wanted the list of available drs, told they didnt have list, after much argueing about list, I then refused to sign irp until a list was forthcoming...I got the list! but I have to say it was full of their top exit drs!
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 12:07 PM

Jack this is becoming a huge problem and ACC are using th e Gravy train Doctors above the others.

If it is IMA there are some good ones still but for a section 103 they use the VIMA doctors and they are all bad and toadies and liars and useless.

Avoid at all costs Wright. He is a liar and a cheat. It should also be noted that he was kicked out of the partnership practice he was in and noone has found out the reason as yet He has , like Turner, several pages in his poota and just ammends them to suit. Tailor made for the job, right!!

Antonaidis has a reputation as well for dishonesty.

If you ar e in the Sth Is, Dr David Kerr ALL IN CHCH
Dr Biggs
Dr Murray Smith are good and honest ad dont travel around like the others.
Others to avoid if in the Nth are Kanji and Kahan.
Noddy they are breaching the code by denying that you have no choice as under the code, "you have the right to be informed"
How can you be informed with no choice??
Did your IOA meet the needs of your disability? IE did they take your injuries into account???
They also cannot send you on a job path in something below your skills and training and salary. Example you cant be assessed to be a parking attendant if you are a trained architect or certified builder or sparky etc.

Noone will allow video-ing now so take a recording but you must inform them , Ie ACC that you will be recording it.
As has been said , take all your reports in your favour.

has your Gp cleared you for work??
This is the Exit path and go wary, tread carefully an d get it right, otherwise it is curtains for you and a big trouble to get back on!
Good luck
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 12:58 PM

My suggestion is to write a document up before going to the IMA.

Each job option list down why you can not be employed in that job. Remembering that if the job agervates the injury then put that down as not a viable option. make sure that you relate your task back to the injury.

DO NOT USE THE SAME REASON FOR EACH JOB IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE REASON THAT THE JOB IS NOT SUITABLE.

Use saying that give reasons whay that employment option is not suitable.

Now if Missy had a simular document when she went to Wright she would not have needed to return to have the document corrected.

I post yet again the Documentation use to obtain the best report from a known toady that said that the claimant should not attend any more IMA's

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Job Summaries

91412 Loader and/or checker

Due to the injury, many of the duties in this occupation are working in all weather conditions, lifting and carrying are constant, repetitive movements are frequent, driving of forklifts and other equipment frequent and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. The PSTD has limited my thinking and organising skills making this occupational impossible to carry out.

41312 Dispatch and Receiving Clerk

The duties in this occupation require fine motor skill work for filling out dispatch notes, exposure to current weather conditions, constant standing, lifting and carrying constantly, driving of forklifts, use of minor office and hand tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Working in cold weather affects the extremities as in the medical reports from specialists. This occupation is therefore impracticable.

41311 Stock Clerk

Stock Clerk duties include standing, lifting and carrying, repetitive arm hand and finger movements are constant, use of minor office tools are frequent and require mental skills of organisation and practical. The use of minor office tools is very limited as hands swell when in constant use. This is the known fact with my injury that there is a very limited time period that the hands can be used.

91411 Packer

Packer involves standing constantly, lifting and carrying, repetitive hand movements are common, cold conditions are common and requires mental skills of organisation. Repetitive hand movements cause severe aggravation and subsequently pain in hands as per medical reports therefore this occupation is out of my capability.

91514 General Labourer

General labourer is the position I held at "ACC" where my injury originated from. Labouring involves tasks of working outdoors (or cold) constant standing, heavy lifting carrying and pulling or pushing frequently, and repetitive movements frequently. As it was this former occupation that caused the injury, this type of occupation for me to participate in should be dismissed, as it will only aggravate my injury further.

91111 Cleaner

Cleaning duties involve gripping with the hands to sweep, scrub, and polishing floors. Outdoor work, standing constantly, light to medium lifting or pulling and repetitive movements are also a necessity of this occupation. Medical reports state gripping or repetitive motions aggravate my injury it is therefore applicable that this occupation is again outside of my capabilities and should be avoided so as to not aggravate my injury.


41443 General Clerk

General clerk includes duties of repetitive arm hand and finger movements on a constant basis, use of hand tools on a frequent basis and requires sound level of keyboarding, mental skills of organisation and practical. Again this occupation is out of my capabilities because of repetitiveness in the duties it is therefore impracticable that this occupation be recommended.


41444 Office Machine Operator

Machine operator has duties of loading of paper and insertion of stencils, standing frequently, lifting and carrying, use of minor office tools, carry out repairs and adjustments and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Fine skills such as loading of machinery and use of minor office tools should be avoided as per medical reports. Standing is also an issue because pain from standing for periods dissabilitates me. My injury prevents me from carrying out many of the duties involved in this occupation and so therefore should be avoided.

41412 Record and Filing Clerk

Record and filing clerk is another occupation that has duties of operating binding and covering equipment, standing frequently, lifting and carrying, repetitive arm hand and finger movements, use of minor hand tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Lifting and carrying should be avoided as these alone aggravate my injury.

33422 Teacher Aide

Teacher Aide is an occupation that I am very familiar with. I am unable to carry out many of the duties in this occupation as it involves standing frequently, lifting carrying and holding, repetitive movements with hands, use of tools and power tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. My PTSD diagnosis prevents me from mental skills and practicable skills. The lifting and repetitiveness of the duties also would be a factor on aggravation of my injury. As I am involved in this occupation at ACCident Compensation School I am able to recognise that many of the duties are outside of my capability and therefore this occupation is impossible for me to do on a full time basis.


31142 Computer Systems Technician

Computer system technician is what my social employment is currently classified as. Although this job is an excellent occupation it is still outside of my capabilities to do this over a prolonged period. Duties in this occupation include machine repair and maintenance, standing frequently, medium lifting, use of hand tools and power tools, repetitive movements on a frequent basis and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. My injury deteriorates with repetitiveness and lifting. The need for fine motor skills is also affected by my injury. Many of the duties are unable to be conducted by myself and frequently the use of students to contribute to the duties is the only thing that allows me to continue this social occupation at the school. It is therefore noted that this occupation is impracticable during the course of a full day.


83212 Light Truck or Van Driver

Light truck or van driver involves many duties that are outside of my capability. These include working in all weather conditions, lifting and carrying frequently, repetitive hand and arm movements on a frequent basis, driving frequently and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. It is noted in medical reports that my driving capability of around 2 to 3 hours in any day contributes to increased pain and swelling of the hands. It is also noted occupations that involve working in cold conditions need to be avoided; therefore this occupation is again not a viable option.

52111 Sales Assistant (Electronic and Related Goods)

Sales assistant is an occupation I am familiar with from when I was employed at the computer/video shop. Duties of writing invoices or dockets, standing frequently, lift and pass items, lifting pulling or carrying, repetitive hand and finger movements on a frequent basis, use of hand tools frequently and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Handling of items such as money is unable to be pursued. Lack of fine motor skills and no sensory feeling in hands and repetitiveness prevents me from pursuing this occupation.


82922 Electric and Electronic Equipment Assembler

Electric and electronic equipment assembler includes duties of standing constantly, frequently on concrete floors, handling tools on a frequent basis, many tasks are repetitive, use of hand power and machine tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. As my injury involves sensory loss, electrical shocks and heat extremities are not detected until damage has been done. The repetitive movements in this occupation are also a factor that it aggravates my injury and causes pain and stiffness. This occupation need to be kept well clear of as it's potentially a life threatening situation for me to be engaged in.


take note that not one job option says that "he can not do that job."

the reason was that the ACC needed the assessor to write that in his report so that fraud proscution could be undertaken.

You want rehabilitation even on the job training, then place it in the document.

Using Missy here, She had training into Computer opperations to become a office worker. She needed on the job training to obtain better skills at that. The Occupoational Assessor had left that out of the OIA. this will mean that the medical assessor would place an opinion into the office position. Of cause Missy would have also included that the Office position would obtain the highest earnings after rehabilitation was complete.

So Jack Which one it doesn't really matter and remember that ACC can just send you to any of them.

You can down load the job sheets from the ACC web site. If there is a known activity not recorded in the job sheets tell the assessor as the job sheet is only a guide.

Having a list of covered injuries with you makes good sence.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 02:55 PM

 Jack, on May 26 2009, 01:00 AM, said:

hi,
have IOA and IMA coming. Have list of 3 doctors to choose from for the IOA

1) Dr David Waite

2) Dr M Antoniadis

3) Dr Jonathan Wright

any of these honest people ?

most greatful for any information on these 3

regards
Jack


Dr David Waite's vocational independance assessment was commented on in 5/2009 - Saul v ACC http://www.acc.co.nz/PRD_EXT_CSMP/groups/e..._ctrb104378.pdf
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:36 PM

Doppell, Better not you take pages of stuff you have written because acc accuse you of telling the dr what to say. You are better to stick to the medical reports and the full schedule of claimants injuries....make sure it is correct and complete. If it is not correct or complete you can ask for postponement until it is. That way they can't impugn your integrity cause its the same stuff they already have and if they have conveniently left some out....you're covered.

Ask for a copy of all the info they intend to send the assessor to be forwarded to you in advance so you can check to make sure the assessor has all the info he needs to make a fully informed and fair assessment. I like to think there is an agreed bundle of documents as in my experience they often tell one side of a story but not the resolution which shows them up....just the part that makes claimant look bad.

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 03:49 PM

The whole point of having an independent occupational and medical assessment is for those assessments to be independent. They ceased to be independent of either the ACC or the claimant attempt to manipulate the assessor with personal opinion.

The only information that is relevant is the blow by blow objective information.

In relation to the occupation it should be a list of
qualifications
individual work task experiences

help her qualification and work experience has come toogether to produce a list of individual skills for purposes of earnings.

Those skills used for earnings will relate to the preinjury occupation.

It is up to the occupational assessor to reconfigure those skills into a new occupation.

An occupational assessment is not a hypothetical occupation but a realistically achieved occupation based on the actual objective information.
Obviouusly an occupational assessor is not an assessor of any particular occupation if they do not have the necessary qualification and experience to describe the nature of the each of the work tasks within the occupations described. This is where occupational assessors frequently produce fraudulent documents.



With regards to medical assessments this can only be a rehash of the existing medical information collected by the treatment providers. In order for an occupational medical assessor to determine the safety incapacity to perform the individual work task activities of each of the occupations listed there must first be a complete work task list for each occupation sufficiently particularised so as the medical assessor can provide a medical certificate for the safety of the claimant. If the medical assessor produces a medical safety certificate for an occupation of which it is not safe to perform and the claimant was to attempt the task and come to harm the meddical professionals signing the medical certificate but very likely land up in prison charged under the crimes act In relation to producing false documentation resulting in harm.
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Posted 26 May 2009 - 04:08 PM

 Gloria Mitchell, on May 26 2009, 03:36 PM, said:

Doppell, Better not you take pages of stuff you have written because acc accuse you of telling the dr what to say. You are better to stick to the medical reports and the full schedule of claimants injuries....make sure it is correct and complete. If it is not correct or complete you can ask for postponement until it is. That way they can't impugn your integrity cause its the same stuff they already have and if they have conveniently left some out....you're covered.

Ask for a copy of all the info they intend to send the assessor to be forwarded to you in advance so you can check to make sure the assessor has all the info he needs to make a fully informed and fair assessment. I like to think there is an agreed bundle of documents as in my experience they often tell one side of a story but not the resolution which shows them up....just the part that makes claimant look bad.

Gloria.



Of cause they need to obtain the documents tat ACC have sent. Persons injuries are recorded in medical certificated amd reports. Second third forth and fifth injuries may not have acceptance letters but in thiose cases are more than likely accepted.

It is pointless going to an assessment with out what the assessor needs to record to be in writing which is all injuries that are covered recorded in that document. Remember it is to increase the KPI's if the staff and produce a document for the corporation to use in court that the assessment is completed. It is not for the purpose of supplying entitlements. When people learn the object of the assesssments then they will understand how to counter react, defeat the Corporations purpose, and gain entitlements.

the Corporations policy only works because injures people have been told to trust ACC staff as 80% of injured people only receive treatment and have no long term contact with case managers.

Better not you take pages of stuff you have written because acc accuse you of telling the dr what to say.

if someone is telling lies and has those lies in writing then they will be charged with fraud.

If the Dr finds that you have an injury undionogsed then he should report it in the report and ask the question as to see if it is covered. beforte concluding the assessment.

Check out the Act.

Information collection
279 Purposes for which Corporation to collect information
(1) The Corporation may collect information for the following purposes:
(a) to enable a comprehensive claims database to be maintained:
(B) to facilitate the monitoring of the operation of this Act:
© to monitor and evaluate the nature, incidence, severity, and consequences of injuries:
(d) injury prevention:
(e) the provision of appropriate rehabilitation and treatment:
(f) the provision of appropriate compensation:
(g) policy development under this Act:
(h) determining the cost to society of personal injury:
(i) levy setting:
(j) scheme management.
(2) The Corporation must collectó
(a) such information as is prescribed for the purposes set out in subsection (1)(a) to (i) by regulations made under this Act:
(B) information for such of the purposes set out in section 287 that are prescribed by regulations made under this Act.
(3) Information prescribed for the purpose set out in subsection (1)(a) must include information about the circumstances of the personal injury, the nature and severity of the personal injury, and its consequences.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 12:08 AM

Dopel, I understand you are not an ACC claimant.
Can you tell us how many IOA assessments you have had as you seem to be such an authority on this subject??
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:37 AM

Sparrow I am an ACC claimant but I do not receive any entitlements except fot medical treatment.

WHY??????????????????????????????

Due to ACC producung false information to the courts about my covered injuries, and what I planed as rehabilitation.

they made a decision claiming that I commiting an offence as I had applied for Vocational Rehabilitation. At the same time they claimed that my injury was not the cause of my loss of earnings. my loss of earnings is because I wanted Vocational Rehabilitation.

Treatment I receive Hospital stay in November 2004. there is no other treatment except for rest. the injury is permanent can not be fixed by an operation.

My authority as to what ACC is doing is because I did myresearch with others to see what ACC is doing. this is were you don't want to join in as you would rather fight the problem out in the courts with out correcting the problem.

if you want a copy of the policies let me know and I will get you a copy so you can catch up into knowing what and how ACC are removing entitlements. Be warned that it is boring reading and repeated.

Work trails is very interesting as if the person gets injured its not the responcability of the employer because the employer does not pay any wages

the policy even explains why is it necessary to send a claimant to a physic........ .

The policy has to be read with the staff contracts and the KPI's.

Let me know and I get you a copy.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 11:48 AM

Dopel, I know this is bloggng a thread, BUT can you answer my question?How many IOA assessments have you had??
Policy of ACC is not going to get JAck anywhere.
Gloria is absolutely right in her post.

Jack, from your posts, you are in no way fit for any Voc rehab and your social needs must be attended to first including
Medical treatment.
Have you got NOT FIT FOR ANY WORK on your Arc18??????

Best for your GP to write and say that you are not cleared for any work and show this to an Asessor He cannot overirde that.
also it must all be stoppped before it starts.!
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 04:33 PM

If this person is not fit to carry out the IMA them why is this person requesting information?????????????

Sparrow tell me what section under the 1982 Act did ACC have the ability to assess me in cutting me off. There are several but ACC made no decision under any of them.

This is the section that they cut me off under.

119. Offences---(1) If any person evades, or attempts to evade, or does any act with intent to evade, or makes default in the performance of any duty imposed upon him by this Act or the regulations thereunder with intent to evade, the determination or payment of any sum which is or may become chargeable against him by way of levy (which sum is hereinafter referred to as the deficient levy), or if any person makes any false statement or false representation with intent to obtain for himself or any other person rehabilitation assistance or compensation to which the recipient is not entitled (any amount so paid and the amount of the value of any other rehabilitation assistance so given being hereinafter referred to as the excess amount), he commits an offence and is liable on conviction on indictment to a fine not exceeding $500 or treble the amount of the deficient levy or excess amount (as the case may be), whichever is the greater.

(2) Every person commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding $500 who---
Refuses or fails to furnish any statement or information for the purposes of this Act as and when required by or under this Act or the regulations made thereunder and, if the offence is a continuing one, to a further fine not exceeding $25 for every day during which the offence continues; or
Wilfully or recklessly makes and delivers to the Corporation or any agent of the Corporation any false statement, or gives any false information to, or misleads or attempts to mislead, the Corporation or any agent, committee, officer, or employee of the Corporation in relation to any matter or thing affecting his own or any other person's liability to pay any levy, or right to claim rehabilitation assistance or compensation, under this Act; or
Aids, abets, or incites any other person to commit any offence against this Act or against any regulations made thereunder.

(3) Any person who is in receipt of compensation under section 59 of this Act and who fails to advise the Corporation as soon as practicable if there is any increase in the amount of his earnings derived after the date of the accident that would reduce the amount to be paid to him in respect of earnings related compensation, commits an offence and is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding $500.

(4) Every person who commits an offence against this Act or any regulations made thereunder for which no penalty is provided in this Act or in any regulations made thereunder elsewhere than in this section is liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding $500.

(5) Any information may charge the defendant with any number of offences against this Act (whether arising under this section or otherwise) or against any regulations made thereunder, if those offences are founded on the same set of facts, or form or are part of a series of offences of the same or a similar character.

(6) Where any information charges more than one such offence, particulars of each offence charged shall be set out separately in the information.

(7) All such charges shall be heard together unless the Court, either before or at any time during the hearing, considers it just that any charge should be heard separately and makes an order to that effect.

(8) Notwithstanding anything in section 14 of the Summary Proceedings Act 1957 or in any other Act, any information in respect of any offence against this Act, or against any regulations made thereunder, for which a person is liable on summary conviction to a fine may be laid at any time within 5 years after the termination of the year in which the offence was committed.
Cf. 1972, No. 43, ss. 136, 180


Show me were it say that it was an offence to apply for Vocational Rehabilitation.

I had lawyers including peter sara representing me. ACC claimed that I did not have cover for an injury that had been accepted and claimed that I did not work as the reason that I got cut off.

Policies were followed just like they are today. Lawyers and advocates still can't get it into there heads that the Courts can not over ride a decision by ACC which is not in dispute.

So your answer is a fat 0 but that does not mean anything in your argument.

You are saying that jack has not got all of his injuries recorded correctly as ACC are required to do under section 279. this is why it is important to have written document including all injuries that are being treated for in the documentation given to the assessors.

Sparrow all you say is wait until after the assessment and then go to an advocate. Don't worry I let you carry on the way that you are.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 05:53 PM

Time you took a lesson in reading and stoppped putting up here things I have never said.
Sorry Jack, your thread has been blogged.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 06:54 PM

 doppelganger, on May 26 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

My suggestion is to write a document up before going to the IMA.

Each job option list down why you can not be employed in that job. Remembering that if the job agervates the injury then put that down as not a viable option. make sure that you relate your task back to the injury.

DO NOT USE THE SAME REASON FOR EACH JOB IF THERE IS MORE THAN ONE REASON THAT THE JOB IS NOT SUITABLE.

Use saying that give reasons whay that employment option is not suitable.

Now if Missy had a simular document when she went to Wright she would not have needed to return to have the document corrected.

I post yet again the Documentation use to obtain the best report from a known toady that said that the claimant should not attend any more IMA's

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Job Summaries

91412 Loader and/or checker

Due to the injury, many of the duties in this occupation are working in all weather conditions, lifting and carrying are constant, repetitive movements are frequent, driving of forklifts and other equipment frequent and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. The PSTD has limited my thinking and organising skills making this occupational impossible to carry out.

41312 Dispatch and Receiving Clerk

The duties in this occupation require fine motor skill work for filling out dispatch notes, exposure to current weather conditions, constant standing, lifting and carrying constantly, driving of forklifts, use of minor office and hand tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Working in cold weather affects the extremities as in the medical reports from specialists. This occupation is therefore impracticable.

41311 Stock Clerk

Stock Clerk duties include standing, lifting and carrying, repetitive arm hand and finger movements are constant, use of minor office tools are frequent and require mental skills of organisation and practical. The use of minor office tools is very limited as hands swell when in constant use. This is the known fact with my injury that there is a very limited time period that the hands can be used.

91411 Packer

Packer involves standing constantly, lifting and carrying, repetitive hand movements are common, cold conditions are common and requires mental skills of organisation. Repetitive hand movements cause severe aggravation and subsequently pain in hands as per medical reports therefore this occupation is out of my capability.

91514 General Labourer

General labourer is the position I held at "ACC" where my injury originated from. Labouring involves tasks of working outdoors (or cold) constant standing, heavy lifting carrying and pulling or pushing frequently, and repetitive movements frequently. As it was this former occupation that caused the injury, this type of occupation for me to participate in should be dismissed, as it will only aggravate my injury further.

91111 Cleaner

Cleaning duties involve gripping with the hands to sweep, scrub, and polishing floors. Outdoor work, standing constantly, light to medium lifting or pulling and repetitive movements are also a necessity of this occupation. Medical reports state gripping or repetitive motions aggravate my injury it is therefore applicable that this occupation is again outside of my capabilities and should be avoided so as to not aggravate my injury.


41443 General Clerk

General clerk includes duties of repetitive arm hand and finger movements on a constant basis, use of hand tools on a frequent basis and requires sound level of keyboarding, mental skills of organisation and practical. Again this occupation is out of my capabilities because of repetitiveness in the duties it is therefore impracticable that this occupation be recommended.


41444 Office Machine Operator

Machine operator has duties of loading of paper and insertion of stencils, standing frequently, lifting and carrying, use of minor office tools, carry out repairs and adjustments and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Fine skills such as loading of machinery and use of minor office tools should be avoided as per medical reports. Standing is also an issue because pain from standing for periods dissabilitates me. My injury prevents me from carrying out many of the duties involved in this occupation and so therefore should be avoided.

41412 Record and Filing Clerk

Record and filing clerk is another occupation that has duties of operating binding and covering equipment, standing frequently, lifting and carrying, repetitive arm hand and finger movements, use of minor hand tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Lifting and carrying should be avoided as these alone aggravate my injury.

33422 Teacher Aide

Teacher Aide is an occupation that I am very familiar with. I am unable to carry out many of the duties in this occupation as it involves standing frequently, lifting carrying and holding, repetitive movements with hands, use of tools and power tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. My PTSD diagnosis prevents me from mental skills and practicable skills. The lifting and repetitiveness of the duties also would be a factor on aggravation of my injury. As I am involved in this occupation at ACCident Compensation School I am able to recognise that many of the duties are outside of my capability and therefore this occupation is impossible for me to do on a full time basis.


31142 Computer Systems Technician

Computer system technician is what my social employment is currently classified as. Although this job is an excellent occupation it is still outside of my capabilities to do this over a prolonged period. Duties in this occupation include machine repair and maintenance, standing frequently, medium lifting, use of hand tools and power tools, repetitive movements on a frequent basis and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. My injury deteriorates with repetitiveness and lifting. The need for fine motor skills is also affected by my injury. Many of the duties are unable to be conducted by myself and frequently the use of students to contribute to the duties is the only thing that allows me to continue this social occupation at the school. It is therefore noted that this occupation is impracticable during the course of a full day.


83212 Light Truck or Van Driver

Light truck or van driver involves many duties that are outside of my capability. These include working in all weather conditions, lifting and carrying frequently, repetitive hand and arm movements on a frequent basis, driving frequently and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. It is noted in medical reports that my driving capability of around 2 to 3 hours in any day contributes to increased pain and swelling of the hands. It is also noted occupations that involve working in cold conditions need to be avoided; therefore this occupation is again not a viable option.

52111 Sales Assistant (Electronic and Related Goods)

Sales assistant is an occupation I am familiar with from when I was employed at the computer/video shop. Duties of writing invoices or dockets, standing frequently, lift and pass items, lifting pulling or carrying, repetitive hand and finger movements on a frequent basis, use of hand tools frequently and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Handling of items such as money is unable to be pursued. Lack of fine motor skills and no sensory feeling in hands and repetitiveness prevents me from pursuing this occupation.


82922 Electric and Electronic Equipment Assembler

Electric and electronic equipment assembler includes duties of standing constantly, frequently on concrete floors, handling tools on a frequent basis, many tasks are repetitive, use of hand power and machine tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. As my injury involves sensory loss, electrical shocks and heat extremities are not detected until damage has been done. The repetitive movements in this occupation are also a factor that it aggravates my injury and causes pain and stiffness. This occupation need to be kept well clear of as it's potentially a life threatening situation for me to be engaged in.


take note that not one job option says that "he can not do that job."

the reason was that the ACC needed the assessor to write that in his report so that fraud proscution could be undertaken.

You want rehabilitation even on the job training, then place it in the document.

Using Missy here, She had training into Computer opperations to become a office worker. She needed on the job training to obtain better skills at that. The Occupoational Assessor had left that out of the OIA. this will mean that the medical assessor would place an opinion into the office position. Of cause Missy would have also included that the Office position would obtain the highest earnings after rehabilitation was complete.

So Jack Which one it doesn't really matter and remember that ACC can just send you to any of them.

You can down load the job sheets from the ACC web site. If there is a known activity not recorded in the job sheets tell the assessor as the job sheet is only a guide.

Having a list of covered injuries with you makes good sence.


So you aresaying that no one should follow this process so that they can obtain the necessary Vocational Rehabilitation.

I do take note that after your accident you did not complete any employment after you accident unlike me that has worked when able to carry out employment. You lived off the entitlement with out looking at employment. You were Exit in jobs which means that you could substain some employment, even if that employment was for a couple of hours per week. How do I know is that you can only be assessed in the employment that you are working in as the ACC can only assess you to maintain employment that you are in meaning that unless you not working to the full extent which is over 35 hours the ACC can not exit you.

I take the lesson but seam that you are still set in the ways of no employment unlesss it is over 35 hours per week.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:04 PM

This thread is headed up "Which Doctor is not a toady."
You have utterly blogged this thread Dopel.
If your snide remarks in your last post are an attack on Sparrow well, think again
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:17 PM

Whats wrong with you guys ? You argue like a couple of pre-schoolers over a mouldy chocklate bar. Is this the best you can do ?
How about a bit of respect for all the people that click onto this site in an effort to get some factual info about whats really going on ?
If you havent got something positive to add without argueing about who said what, and when, then PISS OFF.
There are plenty of people out here that are in need of factual help, not some namby-pamby-opinion-cause-i-said
crap. We have had enough of that from them, so get real, would you ?
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:52 PM

 Sparrow, on May 27 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

This thread is headed up "Which Doctor is not a toady."
You have utterly blogged this thread Dopel.
If your snide remarks in your last post are an attack on Sparrow well, think again
You are utterly wrong and as I have said, take a few lessons in reading and grammar.
Also why are you not rehabbing yourself like the rest of us have done.

For your information, I continued for 3 1/2 yrs after my injury in my job against all odds.
Keep your nasty thoughts to yourself, it is not helpful to poor JAck who is under stress.
you know absolutely nothing about me so shut up your dirty tricks, I am utterly sick of you.
Just as an aside, how can anyone go to IOA with the list of jobs, stupid isnt it, that is where they are discussed an d I repeat, GET IT RIGHT AT IOA< and make sure that no jobs are suggested that are below any training and experience AND your injuries have to be taken into account. THIS IS THE LEGISLATION


thanks for confirming that you are a bludger I'l sory to jack on your continious attack. You just want to say that you dod nothing wrong in collecting compensation while not endevering to reduce the compensation all the time the 1992 Act.

I gather that you don't think that you should apply legislation to your self. Just remind your self what the legislation said during the 1992 act.

(g) Take action by way of rehabilitation in order to endeavour to terminate or reduce the extent of any impairment, disability, or handicap.

You are saying that the claimant is to go and wait until they have the report. I say that the Claimant looks at what employment could be obtained with or with out rehabilitation. Write it on a peice of paper and present ti to the assessor and any Vocational Rehabilitation required request it also. It means that even with a IRP saying Exit the claimant turns the situtation around meaning that the assessment is not to see if one of the jobs listed can be done to meeding training or experance in a particular job.

Sparrow you need to stop attacking me and stop telling people that its alright to do nothing just because they can not work 35 hours.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 09:25 AM

Okay, erm I guess I'm putting myself in the lions den here.

Does anyone have actual proof of these doctors being toadies, like people who have been to review or court and have won? It would be good to gather that kind of information and put in in a seperate area here, be interesting to see what the results show.

For those of us seeking help its really off putting just getting their all toadies dont go near them.
doppelganger, thank you, I find even if you don't have the answer to my question you give me related information to work with, that very helpful, and the threads I've followed you do the same.
If they are all toadies as is so often posted here, I'd rather go armed with stuff I can do to help me then just go the notion this person is going to screw me over.

please there seems to be a lot of nit picking and bickering on this site, we are all tired and sore most of us over worried and stressed , don't need to come here and deal with all this as well, isn't this meant to be a safe place? a place for help and support to find information?
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