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Posted 04 May 2009 - 12:29 PM

Hello, Have been referred for an IOA (Complex) under Deemed IRP. Occupation described slightly incorrectly.
Most importantly ACC put: "Client's assessed earnings prior to current incapacity: $Pre Injury earnings at Date of First Incapacity at $XX (100% figure)".

Firstly the figure appears to be wrong. Secondly, I had an accident, worked for over 1 year before going off on ACC for 6 months. Returned to work for approx 9 months - then been on ACC ERC ever since.
My Question is: What income figure should be used by ACC for IOA purposes? E.G. should the income figure be: date of accident, or taken prior to first going off on ACC, or prior to second (last) going off on ACC? I say income figure should be "prior to second (last) going off on ACc".

Finally, ACC gave IOA: Deemed IRP, IOA + IMA (both from 2003/2004) which have errors, contain irrelevant medical information and confidential matters. ACC have ignored my written comments on (I believe) both of these reports. ACC failed to give IOA more recent relevant medical reports (two) from specialist which won my ERC back last year!
Any thoughts on this appreciated!
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 01:00 PM

View PostFighter for Justice, on May 4 2009, 12:29 PM, said:

Hello, Have been referred for an IOA (Complex) under Deemed IRP. Occupation described slightly incorrectly.
Most importantly ACC put: "Client's assessed earnings prior to current incapacity: $Pre Injury earnings at Date of First Incapacity at $XX (100% figure)". What year was the accident and when did the incapacity start?

Firstly the figure appears to be wrong. Secondly, I had an accident, worked for over 1 year before going off on ACC for 6 months. Returned to work for approx 9 months - then been on ACC ERC ever since.
My Question is: What income figure should be used by ACC for IOA purposes? E.G. should the income figure be: date of accident, or taken prior to first going off on ACC, or prior to second (last) going off on ACC? I say income figure should be "prior to second (last) going off on ACc". this is the relative earnings and depending what Act that these came under depends what figure.

Finally, ACC gave IOA: Deemed IRP, IOA + IMA (both from 2003/2004) which have errors, contain irrelevant medical information and confidential matters. ACC have ignored my written comments on (I believe) both of these reports. ACC failed to give IOA more recent relevant medical reports (two) from specialist which won my ERC back last year!
Any thoughts on this appreciated!



So you havent had your IOA. If you have you are waisting everyones time as once done you cant change.

Again get the IRP fixed up putting in what you want. As for the IOA they willbe looking at the same type of jobs. You can ask questions and you can try and see if you can get employment in those types of jobs. If you can't because of your injury then get a written rejection. Employers over ride Assessors. If there are aids that ACC should supply then get the employer to put them down sa well

Having the documentation in writing is needed.
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 01:35 PM

Doppelganger, I have not yet had the most recent IOA + IMA that ACC (Northwood Branch) are sending me for. Previously, I was sent in Dec 2003 and mid 2004 for IOA + IMA. My ERC was cut in early 2005 based on surprise, surprise - Dr WED Turner's Report for ACC (and Dr Robb, Workwise - File Review). ERC reinstated after successful Appeal mid last year. Once again I appear to be on ACC's list of claimants being targeted! ACC are obviously ignoring: two Specialist Medical Reports (evidence in successful appeal) stating not fit for 35 hours per week work
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 02:37 PM

View PostFighter for Justice, on May 4 2009, 01:35 PM, said:

Doppelganger, I have not yet had the most recent IOA + IMA that ACC (Northwood Branch) are sending me for. Previously, I was sent in Dec 2003 and mid 2004 for IOA + IMA. My ERC was cut in early 2005 based on surprise, surprise - Dr WED Turner's Report for ACC (and Dr Robb, Workwise - File Review). ERC reinstated after successful Appeal mid last year. Once again I appear to be on ACC's list of claimants being targeted! ACC are obviously ignoring: two Specialist Medical Reports (evidence in successful appeal) stating not fit for 35 hours per week work



there is a difference to a statement not fit for 35 hours per week and fit for 10 hours per week. If the specialist says not fit for 35 hours per week in what jobs. that does not mean that there are not other jobs that could be targeted to get the 35 hours per week.

Its called harassement of the injured person. there is an article about this on here and also a film made about the subject.

It would be pointless in stopping the process or supplying the assessors with all job options at once. Remember they need to only find one job that you could be assessed as been able to do for 35 hours per week.

So back to your IRP that you want and start preparing documentation for the IOA.

If you choose the same assessor as previously you can ask why didn't you put in that employment previously.

Now you have an IRP that goes back to 2003. Section 78 says that an IRP must be up dated to reflect the out comes of assessments
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 01:34 PM

ADVICE FOR INITIAL OCCUPATIONAL ASSESSMENT: Can I tape an Initial Occupational Assessment? What if the IOA refuses to allow taping? Do I need a support person at an Initial Occupational Assessment? Advice Needed urgently - ACC have me on the exit path.
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:17 PM

Having been thru all this before, according to your posts, it is obvious I would have thought that it is imperative to take a support person to all interviews?
you will have to notify them that you are recording it unless you have nifty recorder on your watch or something??
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:24 PM

Write to manager and tell them that you will be recording to make sure that the assessor doed not ask misleading questions.

Tell the case manager that you will have a support person. Get some one you know and perferably that you can rely on. They are there to support you and give you condifiance.

You got the type of employment lined up. make sure that you show that you need the retraining to get that employment .
You will need to know the earning ability once trained so that the assessor can place that in the report. You could also advise the case manager that you will be looking at this as the rehabilitation.

The assessor will be looking at other types of employment and will not offer anything more that 6 weeks in rehabilitation (policy) You will need to ask how much will the earnings be. If asked why? tell the assessor that you need to conpair to see which is the greater in earning capacity in the long term. the assessor will be looking to see if one of the jobs that they give you can be worked for 35 hours or more.

If youhaven't done a job tell the assessor that you have no idea of that type of employment and will consider paid training. Why Paid training as then they are responcable for your health and saftey. ACC will pay to have you work in an work place and it is there policy that because they are not paying wages any accident is not the employer responcability.

Why do I know all of this? Because I read the ACC policies and how the assessor is to make the report.

One good thing to do is to ask the assessor for there qualifications. Most will say that they are a member of a group. Then tell the asssessor that you could be come an assessor once the assessor has arranged to join the orginisation.

Tell the assessor that you would also like that qualifications and experence be place in the report along with the number of persons that they have placed into employment.

you should know what they are going to ask you and that is work experence You need to have that in written format. They are looking at transferable skills.

Just remember that there is a change in legislation that they must look at your earnings when the accident happened. Can't find it so not sure if it is just for this assessment or the VIOA assessments.
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 06:52 PM

Sparrow + Doppelganger, Thanks for the advice.
Can ACC refuse to let me tape IOA?
ACC have put pre-injury earnings figure on the IOA Referral. BUT: what date should the pre-injury earnings be taken at: Date of Injury, OR Date of First going off on ACC, OR Date of 2nd going off on ACC?
I believe the pre-injury earnings figure is wrong - luckily I still have most of my pay slips from centuries ago. ACC have failed to give IOA all relevant reports.
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 08:23 PM

use you to record the assessment as long as you are party to the recording. That is in the law somewere.

this is the relevant section in deciding the Compensation.

53. Relevant earnings---(1) Subject to this Act, for the purpose of
determining the amount of any earnings related compensation payable to
an earner, or payable at any time to any dependant of such an earner,
the amount of his relevant earnings shall be such amount as, in the
opinion of the Corporation, would, at the time of the accident, fairly
and reasonably represent his normal average weekly earnings, having
regard to such information as the Corporation may obtain regarding his
earnings before the time of the accident and his earnings at the time of
the accident, and the period of his residence in New Zealand before the
time of the accident and his work history, and such other relevant
factors as the Corporation thinks fit.

(2) If the earner was an employee at the date of the accident and was
not then also a self-employed person and had not been a self-employed
person at any time during the period of 12 months immediately preceding
the date of the accident, in fixing his relevant earnings under
subsection (1) of this section,---
(a) The Corporation may have regard, in the first place, to the amount
of his weekly earnings as an employee at or about the time of
the accident, or (if the Corporation in its discretion so
decides) the amount of his earnings as an employee at or about
the time of the accident when converted in such manner as the
Corporation considers appropriate to a weekly basis; but
(B) If, in the opinion of the Corporation, the amount ascertained
under paragraph (a) of this subsection would not, at the time of
the accident, properly represent his normal average weekly
earnings, the Corporation may then have regard to the amount of
his average weekly earnings during the period of 28 days
immediately preceding the date of the accident, or such part or
parts of that period as the Corporation may consider as
appropriate for the purpose; but
© If, in the opinion of the Corporation, the amount ascertained
under paragraph (B) of this subsection also would not, at the
time of the accident, properly represent his normal average
weekly earnings, the Corporation may then have regard to his
average weekly earnings during the period of 12 months
immediately preceding the date of the accident or such part or
parts of that period as the Corporation may select for the
purpose:

Provided that nothing in this subsection shall preclude the
Corporation from having regard also to such other factors as it may
consider relevant for the purpose of subsection (1) of this section.

(3) If the earner was a self-employed person at the date of the
accident (whether or not he was also an employee at the date of the
accident) or if the earner had been a self-employed person at any time
during the period of 12 months immediately preceding the date of the
accident, the Corporation, in fixing his relevant earnings under
subsection (1) of this section, may have regard to all or any of the
following factors, as it thinks appropriate for the purpose:
(a) His earnings as a self-employed person during his financial year
last ended before the day immediately following the date of the
accident, or, if the amount of those earnings is not for the
time being readily determinable, such sum as may be estimated by
the Corporation as fairly and reasonably representing those
earnings:
(B) His earnings as an employee (if any) during that financial year
and his earnings as a self-employed person during that financial
year, or, if the amount of those earnings is not for the time
being readily determinable, such sum as may be estimated by the
Corporation as fairly and reasonably representing those
earnings:
© The average amount of his earnings as a self-employed person
during any of the periods of 2 or 3 or 4 consecutive financial
years last ended before the day immediately following the date
of the accident, or, if the Corporation, in the exercise of its
discretion, so decides, during any one or more of those
financial years which it may select as appropriate for the
purpose:
(d) His earnings as an employee (if any) at or about the time of the
accident, or during the period of 12 months immediately
preceding the date of the accident, or during such part or parts
of that period as the Corporation may select as appropriate for
the purpose:
(e) His earnings as a self-employed person (as determined or estimated
by the Corporation) during the period of 12 months immediately
preceding the date of the accident, or during such part or parts
of that period as the Corporation may select as appropriate for
the purpose, if sufficient information, including accounts, is
furnished to the Corporation to enable it to determine or
estimate the amount of his earnings as a self-employed person
during that period or the said part or parts of that period, as
the case may be:

Provided that nothing in this subsection shall preclude the
Corporation from having regard also to such other factors as it may
consider relevant for the purpose of subsection (1) of this section.

(4) If the relevant earnings of an employee as determined in
accordance with the foregoing provisions of this section would be
significantly more or significantly less than the average weekly amount
of the earnings as an employee that he would, in the opinion of the
Corporation, have derived during the period of short term incapacity if
he had not suffered the injury, then, notwithstanding anything in the
foregoing provisions of this section, the Corporation may, if it thinks
fit, assess his relevant earnings at that amount. Any assessment made
under this subsection shall apply only for the period of short term
incapacity.

(5) The Corporation may, from time to time, in so far as it thinks fit
to do so,---
(a) Fix a minimum amount of relevant earnings for any person who,
either, having engaged to work under a contract of service, has
not commenced to work under that contract, or was not in regular
work in paid employment, and had made positive arrangements and
preparations to take up such work in New Zealand (either as an
employee or a self-employed person) at a future time, being not
more than 12 months after the date of the accident, and
satisfies the Corporation to this effect:
(B) Having regard to the liability imposed on self-employed persons
for payment of levy under Part IV of this Act, fix a minimum
amount of relevant earnings for self-employed persons:
© Having regard to that liability, and to such other considerations
as the Corporation may think relevant, fix a minimum amount of
relevant earnings for any class or group of self-employed
persons, whether those persons are classified or described by
reference to the nature of their employment, or to the hours in
which they have normally engaged in that employment before the
accident, or to the period of time for which they have been
engaged in that employment, or to the amount or rate of levy
imposed on them, or by reference to any combination of those
factors, or are classified or described in any other manner
whatsoever that the Corporation thinks fit,---

and may from time to time vary, amend, or revoke, in whole or in part,
any determination made under this subsection.

(6) The Governor-General may, from time to time, by Order in Council
specify a percentage or amount by which the amount, for the time being,
of any relevant earnings required to be ascertained under this section
shall increase.Any such Order in Council may be made in relation to all
such relevant earnings or to such only of those relevant earnings as may
be specified in the order, and may prescribe any limitation as to its
effect, whether by way of reference to any persons or classes of persons
or to the time at which an accident has happened or to the purposes for
which the increase is to apply, or by way of any other specification,
stipulation, condition, inclusion, or exclusion whatsoever.The Order in
Council or any part or parts thereof may be made so as to come into
effect on a date or dates to be specified therein in that behalf, being
either the date of the Order in Council or any other date or dates,
whether before or after the date thereof.

(7) Subject to any limitations as to the effect of an Order in Council
made under subsection (6) of this section, where the relevant earnings
of an injured person are increased pursuant to subsection (6) of this
section, the amount of those relevant earnings, as for the time being so
increased, shall on and after the date on which the Order in Council (or
the relevant part thereof) comes into effect, be the amount of his
relevant earnings ascertained in accordance with this section where that
amount is required to be ascertained for the purpose of---
(a) Determining his loss of earning capacity for the time being in
respect of any period of incapacity to which section 59 of this
Act applies; and
(B) Assessing the weekly amount of earnings related compensation in
respect of permanent loss of earning capacity where the
assessment is made under section 60 of this Act; and
© Determining the minimum rate of compensation for the time being
payable to him under section 61 of this Act; and
(d) Applying sections 62 and 63 of this Act.

(8) Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this section, in any
case where a person suffers personal injury by accident during the
period for which his cover is deemed under section 69 of this Act to
extend, and his relevant earnings are determined under this section, the
amount of his relevant earnings shall be so determined and subsection
(6) of this section shall apply as if the accident had happened on the
day immediately preceding the first day of that period.

AMDD S7 of 1885 No 66 to read
(8) Notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this section, in any
case where a person suffers personal injury by accident during the
period for which his cover is deemed under section 69 of this Act to continue to be an earner, and his relevant earnings are determined under this section, the
amount of his relevant earnings shall be so determined and subsection
(6) of this section shall apply as if the accident had happened on the
day immediately preceding the first day of that period.

(9) Where any period of an earner's incapacity for work does not
commence on the date of the accident, and the Corporation is of the
opinion that relevant earnings ascertained in accordance with the
foregoing provisions of this section do not fairly and reasonably
represent the earner's normal average weekly earnings at the time of the
commencement of the period of incapacity for work, the Corporation may,
notwithstanding the foregoing provisions of this section, determine an
amount which, in its opinion, would fairly and reasonably represent his
normal average weekly earnings at the time of the commencement of the
period of incapacity for work, having regard to such information as it
may obtain regarding his earnings before the time of the commencement of
the period of incapacity for work and his earnings at the time of the
commencement of that period, and the period of his residence in New
Zealand before the time of the period of incapacity for work and his
work history, and such other relevant factors as the Corporation thinks
fit; and any amount so determined shall be treated as if it was his
relevant earnings for the purpose of assessing earnings related
compensation during the particular period of incapacity for work:

Provided that any determination made under this subsection shall not
bind or prejudice the Corporation or limit or restrict its discretions
or powers with regard to any assessment or determination of that
person's relevant earnings or loss of earning capacity during any other
period of his incapacity for work to which the determination does not
relate.

(10) Notwithstanding anything in this section, the Governor-General
may, from time to time, by Order in Council make regulations varying the
provisions of this section in relation to the determination of the
relevant earnings of a member of the Armed Forces of New Zealand serving
in a war or emergency who becomes entitled to compensation under section
32 of this Act; and in so doing may prescribe the extent and the manner
(if any) to or in which his earnings as a civilian during any period or
periods before he became a member of those Armed Forces serving in that
war or emergency may be taken into account in determining those relevant
earnings.
Cf. 1972, No. 43, s. 104; 1975, No. 136, s. 11 (1)

take notr of sub (9)and you decide. It depends on how much you earned.
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Posted 21 May 2009 - 01:56 PM

Hi
IOA (Complex).
I've also been asked to go for an IOA (Complex). I've asked ACC what Complex means, no from them answer as yet.

Any idea of the difference between complex and ordinary IOA?

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 02:40 PM

Complex seams to ACC is someone who has more than one injury, more than likely with out real rehabilitation will find it difficult to obtain employment.

Usual way to deal with the matter is to remove any injury that is causing am incapacity and have the assessment on injuries that have covered, but not causing an incapacity.

now to under stand that your job with rehabilitation is that you have to control the rehabilitation. In other words you need to ask ACC so that you can obtain the decision that ACC has rejected any Vocational Rehabilitation.

Now to beat the system down load the Occupational Assessors Guide lines from ACC web site and go through and answer all of the questions.Put those answers in writing and on a separate piece of paper so that the assessor has your answers in writing.

If you have previous been to assessments look at those jobs and if there is any Vocational Rehabilitation needed to obtain those job ask for the rehabilitation.

now if there is a job that you would like to do and could physical carry out the occupation then place that in writing to the assessor. Advise if there is a need for training to obtain that job. ACC or your employer may be required to pay for any training or modifications to the work place so you can obtain that type of employment.

Remember that if you loose your compensation the case manager will be happy. If you are not in work the case manager does not care.

If you don't loose your compensation the case manager will be angry and mad at you. Your family will not be mad at you.
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Posted 21 May 2009 - 05:44 PM

Forestrymorning, Doppelganger advice is relevant (to both of us!). My ACC Case Manager said that a Complex Initial Occupational Assessment is far wider in what it looks at than an Ordinary IOA. For example: long term training such as University Study can be looked at and considered. Apparently assistance needed by claimants in order to do any study etc can also be looked at!. As I have never been thru a Complex IOA before I can only tell you what I have been told.

I suggest: writing to your Case Manager questioning the different between an ordinary and complex initial occupational assessment. I would urgently ask Case Manager (in writing) for a copy of the proposed IOA Referral (ACC098 Referral to Vocational Service Provider).
First check, ACC 098 (IOA Referral) very carefully and make sure that: Occupation (at date of injury) and Client's assessed earnings prior to current incapacity are correct. Check all covered injuries are listed on form and check that all "residual restrictions" are ticked.
"Reports/Documents" for IOA should all be listed.

Attached to ACC098 (IOA Referral) should be ACCC25 Relevant Documents Schedule. ACC252 should list all relevant documents you require the IOA to see. For example: relevant medical reports, relevant IOA/IMA, relevant medical reports done for court case against ACC/Court Judgment if in your favour.

If there are mistakes in the IOA Referral - urgently write to Case Manager pointing out all mistakes and requiring them to be corrected. If ACC252 Relevant Documents Schedule does not list all relevant documents you want IOA to have - then ask ACC to correct this.

I suggest giving the IOA a written letter with all information you want them to have that ACC have failed to provide OR that is incorrect. For example: earnings figure, covered injuries list, medical restrictions, educational qualifications, relevant medical reports ACC in my case failed to give IOA and any relevant court judgments in your favour. Lump sum awards from ACC are relevant.

Remember, ACC can now pay for Vocational Rehabilitaiton for longer than 3 years (see Section 16 of IPRC Amendment Act 2008) which amends Section 87 of main IPRC Act.
Urgently buy IPRC Act (and all Amendments) at Whitcoulls $35 - $40 approx cost. Study it!
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Posted 21 May 2009 - 07:05 PM

It is a BREACH OF YOUR PRIVACY if any amounts of your previous or current earnings are mentioned on any referral form.
Make sure that this is deleted.
IT should be of no interest to an Assessor how much you earned in your past life at your job or how much ACC has spent on you for the past years.
Money does
NOT come into it with an Assessor, it is training and experience.

What is important, is that you are not assessed for any job BELOW your level of training and experience and all of your injuries should be taken into account.ACC love to belittle you by showing the amount they have spent on you. If it is half a Million$$ , so be it.It is nothing to do with an assessor. It is a private matter between you and ACC.

Kindly take note of this
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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:19 PM

Forestrymorning;
Section 17 of IPRC Amendment Act 2008 - amends Section 91 of the main IPRC Act and states:
"Conduct of Initial Occupational Assessment: Section 91 is amended by inserting the following subsection after subsection (1): ""(1A) In considering the suitability of the types of work referred to in subsection (1) (B), the occupational assessor must take into account, among other things, the claimant's earnings before the claimant's incapacity.""

Therefore, I believe the Occupational Assessor is bound by law to take the claimant's earnings before the claimant's incapacity into account - when considering suitability of the types of work referred to in subsection (1) (B) of Section 91 of IPRC Act.

This would be why ACC have started putting claimant's earnings at date of incapacity on forms.

I suggest you look out old pay slips/tax records etc - to double check ACC's figures. In my case the earnings figure appears to be very wrong. Luckily I still have my pay slips.

But I do not believe however that ACC should be putting the amount ACC has paid on a claimant's injury on IRP as used to occur.

Request an up to date copy of all your ACC's files promptly preferably before attending any appointments. Good luck!
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Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:30 PM

IOA complex is a ruse. A roughly legal vehicle with which ACC can get you before one of their doctors for a medico legal report that will be used to exit you from the scheme. University training my arse......" The only way to successfully exit a claimant from the scheme is to obtain fresh medical advice" Mary Ahearn, ACC senior legal advisor. You seen Nicks new board? The experts on actuarials he has brought on to the board? Yo an actuarial bro and these experts no how to get rid of you. An actuarial, or long term liability, is the amount that ACC has to pay you until you are dead or 65. What is a laugh is that there are so few long term claimants left who have not been already illegally denied their disability pensions that they have to come up with absolutely desperate bullshit like IOA complex. Inefficient cowardly lazy scum thieves knaves liars and cheats. Anyhwere else in the world if an insurer could operate with the legal impunity that these pieces of worhless shit operate under the company would make an absolute fortune. But no, these goats go from being proposedly fully self funded by 2015 to 22 billion in debt by 2009.
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Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:36 PM

one must remember that earnings must be up dated so that when the assessment is done there is not taking into account two different time periods.

One of the things that should be taken into account is any renabilitation that ACC has previous rejectyed.
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Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:52 PM

Exactly, 80% of the budget goes on Rehabilitation and it is the service providers in this area that need to be put under the microscope. The scams will be unreal.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:22 AM

Hi, after reading various posts on this thread - I believe Jocko/NoDrsl and others are correct. ACC's main purpose in sending people to any Assessment (particularly Initial Occupational Assessment - Complex/Ordinary) is the exiting of claimants from ERC. I have Medical Reports stating I am unfit for 35 hours per week work (at any job). Yet within months of winning ERC back at Appeal mid last year ACC are suggesting! IOA/IMA and say they will consider authorising University study (very, very part time). Only time will tell. I believe ACC's motives are always questionable.

ACC maintain they cannot agree to university study without putting me through IOA/IMA.
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In 1989 and 1986 eras ACC did pay for University study (for only three years) as I knew several people on ACC ERC at university (ranging from part time to full time).
Recently, I know no one who is attending university in any capacity whilst on ACC ERC.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:19 AM

For sure. Gary Wilson knew that he was going to use the Rehabilitation provisions in the act,paricularly the Initial Occupational Assessment and the Initial Medical Assessment clauses, to exit thousands of claimants. Before the new act was drawn up, back in 1996 he told Maurice McCully he had found a way to halve ACCs cost. National went ahead and privatised and ignored him. But Mick Cullen loved Wilsons scheme so we got the 2001 act.
When claimants began to understand the reality and true purpose of the new act we went right bloody off. 11 violent and abusive attacks on ACC greymouth in 2 years, people charged, people trespassed. Protests. ACCFORUM exposed the truth as plain as day but still between 2000/ 2004, seventeen thousand and six hundred people were illegally dumped off ACC on to WINZ benefits. This was how Cullen was able to show to the world a surplus and keep the credit flowing. The current problems began when Cullens pot of long term claimants ran dry. The bullshit term IOA complex proves that they are desperate and going to any lengths now. This is a corporation that rivals the most evil in history. They have stolen this Nations heritage and to do it they have invoked cruelty and deprivation on people whom our own new prime minister describes as quote; 'The most vulnerable members of society'
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