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#21 User is offline   MINI 

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 02:13 PM

This case has just come to light thanks to input from helpful person:

Decision No 283/2008 Gayle Barwood v ACC. Win for claimant regarding payment of overseas medical expenses for IRP Plan.

Would be useful to take with one when they go to Aussie just so you have it to refer too. Sorry I cant post it, many things I still dont know how to do on this site.

But interesting legal reading.

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Posted 28 November 2008 - 06:47 PM

Bump so SV5000 gets to read this
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Posted 28 November 2008 - 07:52 PM

http://www.nzlii.org...ses/NZACC/2008/

Judjment not on site yet but will be up soon.
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  Posted 30 November 2008 - 12:32 PM

Thank you soooo much to ALL of you for your help and support. As you are all probably aware it amkes the world of difference to know that there are others out there in the same Boat. We will absolutley NOT miss our power bills that are $480 per month, yep $480 per month. We're looking forward to a $300 bill every 3 months and no more worries about the climate. So again thank you all so much. :P
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Posted 30 November 2008 - 05:38 PM

So glad we could be of service sir traveller. Enjoy the Ockers, not to bad of there if you find your way down the the air conditioning at the RSL.

Have a good time.

And dont forget to take that case.

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 01:11 AM

Hi SV5000

Remember to bring a full copy of your paperwork with you its unfortunate to be having to take it......but something is sure to come up and you will be up the creek without it then.

Hey good cheap meals at the rsls.

cheers Gloria


View PostMINI, on Nov 30 2008, 06:38 PM, said:

So glad we could be of service sir traveller. Enjoy the Ockers, not to bad of there if you find your way down the the air conditioning at the RSL.

Have a good time.

And dont forget to take that case.

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Posted 01 December 2008 - 08:55 AM

Good luck with your move. I know that winters there are a LOT easier on those of us with pain.....
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View Postme0, on Nov 27 2008, 10:14 AM, said:

Welcome sc5000

Yes incorrect - Acc will NOT arrange for continuance of your rehabilitation plan (as Thomo said). It is up to you to fund any rehabilitation as ACC will not pay for it out of NZ. So bear in mind anything on your rehab plan you pay for it yourself whilst overseas.

So listen to other members above. You do not have to return to NZ for medical certificates, but I believe ACC try this on. You can be called back to NZ for any assessments anytime.

Good luck with it all.

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Hi has anyone got any updates on there moves to OZ... we are already living in OZ we have been here for 2years now. We have been told that we have to go back to have a support assesment to be completed for our daughter. She is 11 years and suffered major lack of oxygen, so basically she doesnt get better. We have asked for them to extend the payments (which are only attendant care nothing else) but at this stage they have said no. We are fundraising to take our daughter to america for special treatment to increase her life expectance, still they say no....... basically under the new "assesment tool" they have been reducing everybodies entitlement and we are picking the same will happen to us. Sadly it is there descision whether they continue to pay us. Its totally unfair as if we havent suffered enough. we wish we could sew when we get to america them for unfair treatment. anyway thats another story... we are currently using a lawyer in New Zealand but they are so over run with claims that they are not getting things done quickly, at all. Are there any other people in a simular possition, or no of anyone who has sewed them, or any advice we would be grateful..thanks and HELLO......
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 10:54 AM

View PostDTzzzzzz, on Feb 3 2010, 01:22 AM, said:

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Hi has anyone got any updates on there moves to OZ... we are already living in OZ we have been here for 2years now. We have been told that we have to go back to have a support assesment to be completed for our daughter. She is 11 years and suffered major lack of oxygen, so basically she doesnt get better. We have asked for them to extend the payments (which are only attendant care nothing else) but at this stage they have said no. We are fundraising to take our daughter to america for special treatment to increase her life expectance, still they say no....... basically under the new "assesment tool" they have been reducing everybodies entitlement and we are picking the same will happen to us. Sadly it is there descision whether they continue to pay us. Its totally unfair as if we havent suffered enough. we wish we could sew when we get to america them for unfair treatment. anyway thats another story... we are currently using a lawyer in New Zealand but they are so over run with claims that they are not getting things done quickly, at all. Are there any other people in a simular possition, or no of anyone who has sewed them, or any advice we would be grateful..thanks and HELLO......
Look forward to the replies as we have peeps going over for the climate next month. Thanks.


View Postme0, on Nov 27 2008, 03:14 PM, said:

Welcome sc5000

Yes incorrect - Acc will NOT arrange for continuance of your rehabilitation plan (as Thomo said). It is up to you to fund any rehabilitation as ACC will not pay for it out of NZ. So bear in mind anything on your rehab plan you pay for it yourself whilst overseas.

So listen to other members above. You do not have to return to NZ for medical certificates, but I believe ACC try this on. You can be called back to NZ for any assessments anytime.

Good luck with it all.
Hah! ACC don't really provide rehabilitation here in NZ anyway, do they?
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Posted 03 February 2010 - 02:02 PM

View PostMoe, on Feb 3 2010, 07:54 AM, said:

Look forward to the replies as we have peeps going over for the climate next month. Thanks.
Hah! ACC don't really provide rehabilitation here in NZ anyway, do they?


Thats another reason why we left. our daughter was detererating and they didnt care. We got to see a physio every couple of months for an hour. And that was after an operation. We are now awaiting an answer from the gods ACC as to whether they are going to continue our attendant care payments without us having to return to NZ for an assesment. Fingers crossed, as it will cost us a fortune to return as we are fundraising to go to america for real rehabilitation... :P
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 02:59 PM

Hey thanks for sharing your story here. I admire your having taken the initiative to get your child sorted and treated of your own volition. I can't give you any advice or any thing else but my admiration and encouragement.

View PostDTzzzzzz, on Feb 3 2010, 04:02 PM, said:

Thats another reason why we left. our daughter was detererating and they didnt care. We got to see a physio every couple of months for an hour. And that was after an operation. We are now awaiting an answer from the gods ACC as to whether they are going to continue our attendant care payments without us having to return to NZ for an assesment. Fingers crossed, as it will cost us a fortune to return as we are fundraising to go to america for real rehabilitation... :P


ACC obviously didn't care at all and I don't know why they don't rehab people like their glossy brochures claim they will. If they'd provided the treatments in a more timely fashion and got people functioning/rehabbed they wouldn't need to waste the tax payer's money on myriads of assessments and assessors and in some cases ongoing care. Instead of ongoing care, they make people worse and then if that's not bad enough, refuse entitlements which arise out of their negligence. It's like an American insurance company as someone else said. So good on you!

If you do not take charge of your child's or your own rehab then the longer you wait for ACC the worse it will get and the more un-rehabbable you can become. Take it from many we know in the LTCU (etc) who've been fobbed off for 2 decades as un-rehabilitatable. Consequently they've deteriorated but suddenly find themselves on the receiving end of a barrage of assessments, aggressively shunted into rounds under ACC's exit-of-the-tail process. Most of us just want our lives back and to buggery with ACC so who can blame you!

A friend was "rehabbed" into a $12:50 an hour min-wage clerical job but to get the $26K p.a she received 20 yrs ago, part time, she'd have to work FULL TIME as a clerk which she couldn't handle.

So she "failed to comply" with ACC and by-passed them altogether. Instead she went out and took a job at the local GP's as a reception/clerical staff. At $17 an hour she only works PART TIME 9 - 3 Mon-Fri. The 30 hours worked meant she earns the same amount as the job ACC expected her to do FULL TIME.

You go Kiwi. Give Aussie the best. I hope ACC don't require you to bring your child back over here at huge personal expense to your self and your family. Why are there no assessors over there? Can you pay for an assessment yourself rather than the upheaval and expense of a journey back here?
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Posted 04 February 2010 - 09:36 PM

View PostMoe, on Feb 4 2010, 03:59 PM, said:

I hope ACC don't require you to bring your child back over here at huge personal expense to your self and your family. Why are there no assessors over there? Can you pay for an assessment yourself rather than the upheaval and expense of a journey back here?


I believe there are well qualified treatment providing assessors all over the world, however ACC do not want to use them, although it could be more cost effective, as they would get an honest realistic assessment that would have recommendations that could help the claimant - oversease assessors would not be so controlled by lil' ol ACC. There are oversease laws & ethics they apply. That is not what ACC want, seems they prefer to over pay their non-treating so called "specialists" that will tell ACC what they want to hear.
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Posted 03 July 2011 - 04:10 AM

So did you find out what is the general rule for going to Australia & keeping compo?

View Postsv5000, on 26 November 2008 - 05:23 PM, said:

Hi People,
I have a question that I'm hoping someone can answer or enlighten me. After 10 years on this sucky system my family have decided to up roots and move to Australia in the New Year. I have seen many times on the forum people that appear to be living in Aussie but still on ACC. is this correct, can this happen.
I am currently stillr eceiving ERC weekly but wonder what my options would be when I move over the ditch.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what the options are if any.

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