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#1 User is offline   GreatChicken 

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Posted 13 April 2008 - 01:29 PM

Hi,

I'm not sure if this is posted in the right place, but I'm in the position of being unemployed because I resigned a few months ago after not being able to cope at work with an injury. (it's a long story.) Money is starting to get a bit tough.

I want to know if I'm eligilble for acc support on this (the injury has been accepted by ACC).

If so, how do I go about applying for this? I may be able to get support from my GP, but they told me to talk to my case manager - who is not returning my calls.

Are there some forms, or should I write a letter, or is it going to be too hard?

Many thanks in advance.
GC
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 02:15 PM

You need to start by going to your doctor and asking him to fill out an ACC45 form. Check this form to ensure the doctor correctly records the date of, the type of injury and that you are no longer fit for work.
This will start the process to gain ERC.
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 06:20 PM

Hi, it is a great pity you resigned from your job and didnt take ACC funded sick leave!

However, it seems that you have an accepted claim and the ACC45 has been approved.
so what you now need to do is go to your GP and get an ARC18 form that states you are unfit for work.
Please make sure that the diagnosis is correct and all the details regarding your disability and all your restrictions are included in the ARC 18. This will enable ACC to know what your injury and restrictions are. This is really important !!!!!!!
On receipt of that ,ACC should start the Weekly compo calculations.However, it may pay yo to send a letter along with this form and ask CM to start Weekly compo for you. Always write and dont ring, you need a paper trail with these people!!

Were you in a stable job for more than 12months before you resigned? This is because this can affect your pay from ACC calculations.
Be guided by GP and it is possibe you need to get an assessment from a Specialist of your own choice before ACC jump the gun and send you to one of their TOADIES!

Do you have an IRP? That is an Idividual rehab plan drawn up by ACC?
This should be discussed with your GP and support persons before you sign it. NEVER< EVER sign it in front of CM at your 1st interview. Come back here and get advice!
Are you undergoing treatment fro your injury?
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 08:19 PM

View PostSparrow, on Apr 13 2008, 08:20 PM, said:

Hi, it is a great pity you resigned from your job and didnt take ACC funded sick leave!

However, it seems that you have an accepted claim and the ACC45 has been approved.
so what you now need to do is go to your GP and get an ARC18 form that states you are unfit for work.
Please make sure that the diagnosis is correct and all the details regarding your disability and all your restrictions are included in the ARC 18. This will enable ACC to know what your injury and restrictions are. This is really important !!!!!!!
On receipt of that ,ACC should start the Weekly compo calculations.However, it may pay yo to send a letter along with this form and ask CM to start Weekly compo for you. Always write and dont ring, you need a paper trail with these people!!

Were you in a stable job for more than 12months before you resigned? This is because this can affect your pay from ACC calculations.
Be guided by GP and it is possibe you need to get an assessment from a Specialist of your own choice before ACC jump the gun and send you to one of their TOADIES!

Do you have an IRP? That is an Idividual rehab plan drawn up by ACC?
This should be discussed with your GP and support persons before you sign it. NEVER< EVER sign it in front of CM at your 1st interview. Come back here and get advice!
Are you undergoing treatment fro your injury?


Thanks all, esp Sparrow it sounds like what I was after. I'll get onto the form with my quack.

Unfortunately too late i stupidly did sign a rehab plan. My injury is head related from a sport knock and I certainly wasn't thinking of the consequences when i did sign it (kind of like when I resigned). Which kind of makes me think I'm going to be out of luck.... but worth a crack.

Not up the creek financially yet (missus has a modest income), but starting to make decent inroads into my savings.
Thanks....
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 11:23 PM

What is on your rehab plan Chicky??
It can be renegotiated, especially if there are entitlements you have missed out on, Lots up here on Forum about entitlements and treatment etc!!
Go for it.
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 10:36 AM

Hi Great Chicken and Sparrow.

(Makes me wish I'd picked a bird as my handle - I'd go for Tomtit!)

Anyway, I'm just wondering if it mightn't be an idea to, at least run things by, a competent and affordable advocate. I'm sure opinions differ, and many onboard are managing brilliantly without any outside input. it's just that where ERC is involved, the potential losses or gains are really big.

Maybe just an hour or two consultation with all the documents at hand.

Anyway, All the best
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 08:39 PM

find the Brain Injury orginisation as they have people that can help you. this includes advocates and ones that can lead you to a better life.

Its a pitty that the ACC didn't use there own knowledge in knowing of knowing brain injured usually can not operate at work for a full day as a direct result of the injury.Good luck with your claim.
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 08:45 PM

Thanks for all the help everyone :)

View Postfreshrain, on Apr 14 2008, 12:36 PM, said:

Anyway, I'm just wondering if it mightn't be an idea to, at least run things by, a competent and affordable advocate. I'm sure opinions differ, and many onboard are managing brilliantly without any outside input. it's just that where ERC is involved, the potential losses or gains are really big.

Maybe just an hour or two consultation with all the documents at hand.

Where or how does one find one of these competent and affordable advisors? (I'm assuming there's info on here somewhere, but working stuff out isn't my strong point at the mo lol).

Thanks.
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Posted 14 April 2008 - 11:12 PM

What area are you in Greatchicken?
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Posted 15 April 2008 - 06:29 PM

Here we are Great Chicken www.brain-injury.org.nz/ -

and also http://www.brain-inj...t_regional.html
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Posted 17 April 2008 - 10:26 PM

Ooops, I suggested the missus move out and shes going to her olds for a while. It's been tough on her and its not fair.

Are the brain injury people able to help with the acc, or whats the story with advocates etc? I'm in the auck area..........

Sorry for what are probably stupid questions.
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Posted 17 April 2008 - 10:58 PM

View PostGreatChicken, on Apr 17 2008, 11:26 PM, said:

Ooops, I suggested the missus move out and shes going to her olds for a while. It's been tough on her and its not fair.

Are the brain injury people able to help with the acc, or whats the story with advocates etc? I'm in the auck area..........

Sorry for what are probably stupid questions.


The brain injury people would be a great place to start.......acc don't take into account spousal earnings or savings/equity etc.
I know this as a married woman claimant on erc with a husband earning. Ok?

Gloria.
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Posted 18 April 2008 - 05:00 PM

the brain injury socitey is dealing with head injuries and they have advocates full time in Auckland..

I know the one in our area is very good and spends alot of time dealing with ACC matters.
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Posted 19 April 2008 - 07:16 AM

Assuming ACC already cover the head injury then you need to see your GP for an ACC medical certificate certifying you unfit to work backdated to the date you stopped work. (Important!)

You have the right to ask for a review of any decision ACC issues about your claim that you are unhappy with. ACC look to put up a fight on backdated certificates so it would pay to engage an experienced advocate to assist you in any reviews if ACC decline weekly compensation/entitlements.
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