Caregiver/home help rates
#1
Posted 01 April 2008 - 10:36 AM
#2
Posted 01 April 2008 - 10:41 AM
Home help... not via an agency. = $11.28. per hour.
this rate may increase to $12. as of today.
ACC now deducts tax...
and travel expenses, u pay for yourself.
#3
Posted 01 April 2008 - 10:46 AM
#4
Posted 01 April 2008 - 01:03 PM
If ACC is only paying $12.00 who is paying the ACC levies which is not taken out of your minum wage.
#5
Posted 01 April 2008 - 04:40 PM
Caregivers are being ripped off! Start an agency get some staff to attract the higher rates!
#6
Posted 01 April 2008 - 08:19 PM
Chrissy, on Apr 1 2008, 04:40 PM, said:
Caregivers are being ripped off! Start an agency get some staff to attract the higher rates!
You are far better going through an agency. Minimal paperwork and better pay too.
Current rates paid by one agency for personal care are:
Level one care- 15-00 per hour
Level Two care- 17-50 per hour
sleepovers- 90-00 per night
and 50cents per km for travel provided that the carer has to travel more than 5km to get to work
Hope this information is useful to you
#7
Posted 02 April 2008 - 08:45 PM
home help level 2 $13.50
personal care $14.50
mileage .30 after first 10 ks
this is after working in the service for 3 years
area whakatane
#9
Posted 03 April 2008 - 11:09 AM
#10
Posted 03 April 2008 - 12:47 PM
Chrissy, on Apr 3 2008, 12:09 PM, said:
I couldn't agree more about the desperate situation with home help. As I've said before, most people I know, pay a bit more above what the agency pays, to keep any good worker, and to get the jobs done properly.
Good on you Chrissie. The way the Care industry is set up is not fair to consumers or workers. Not by a long chalk.
#11
Posted 05 April 2008 - 07:42 PM
maungataniwha, on Apr 5 2008, 03:27 PM, said:
Good luck caregiver
I am aware that rates paid by ACC to agencies have recently increased. The agency we use for carers recently backpaid to December 2007 the new rates, This agency is in Southland. I have listed the new rates earlier in this post. As far as I am aware all agencies would have received this increase in the rate of payment so all agencies should have put there rates up.
#12
Posted 06 April 2008 - 01:18 PM
maungataniwha, on Apr 5 2008, 09:26 PM, said:
I hope to set something up to change this situation, i.e. pulling agency level funding into a collective, using this higher funding to pay better wages and transport to carers (vetted and hired by claimants) without individual carers and claimants being responisble as either self-employed or employers...i.e an employment intermediary responsible as an employer and all administration that goes with that, to allow claimants to have fair access to a decent worker and being able to retain that worker on the basis the worker will be rewarded fairly without any of the hassles that go with self-employment, rather than the pathetic $12 an hour paid by ACC!
I know there are a number that will benefit from this...but this takes time and still looking into the viability of setting this up!
#13
Posted 06 April 2008 - 03:29 PM
Chrissy, on Apr 6 2008, 01:18 PM, said:
I know there are a number that will benefit from this...but this takes time and still looking into the viability of setting this up!
Hi Chrissy,
I certainly hope you can. From looking on at the 'home help indutry' it seems one big difficulty is organising workers to cover when other workers, cant work, for whatever reason. Some of this problem might be mitigated by better workers showing up for work more often. Maybe there could be a call-out rate when this occurs. I've known people in need without service for weeks, let alone all those many days when no-one turns up, no explanation is given, and when the client finally gets through to the agency, no one is available to cover.
I hope it goes well. What region are you in - if that's not private?
#14
Posted 06 April 2008 - 05:21 PM
#15
Posted 09 April 2008 - 06:58 AM
Chrissy, on Apr 6 2008, 06:21 PM, said:
Hi chrissy good luck your gonna need it, Keep talking the talk your on the right track; Only thing is your about 12 years behind the ball but dont give up cause your un the right track, send me too I think i maybe able to help your cause a little. I have lots of ideas though most of them dont include agencies. As i see it agencies are the problem not the soluton. Theyre in the middle reaping profits at claimants expense. they all recieve administration fee which is why they're able to exist & pay higher rates.
In 1992 ACC were ordered at appeal to pay administration fees which were 20% of the entitlement that was the rate back then same same as c.c.s & area health boards with paye & levies as a top up.
The administration fee is/was an ongoing cost as are other cost pertaining to attendant care. (much like what that guy gemini was on about in his article caregiver 101 & his posts here) btw He reckons hes been getting 18.50/ hr since 2004, (if hes for real) ;p
Do some research on how many agencies existed before & after 1992, most of these new agencies will have connections to high acc officialdom Its them who were privy to that information. Them & the few claimants who are getting admin' & by the looks of this forum they aint sayin much, Dont worry if your with an agency youll be getting your admin entitlement some of it. With the new tax legislation coming out july 1 its only going to make private non contracted care harder for claimants and their carers.... Not if you join an agency though yeah.
My advice is this: Dont let agencies in your home. period. Start your own agency or company Take your admin back employ a nurse or 2 & send acc the invoice. As an employer you can send the repo man around & do your own taxing,. whats a bit of paperwork when one has quality care. Hell man go buy a secretary. Better yet, It'll give your $11 an hour attendant something to do instead of rifling through your undies drawer.
On a more serious note think about why private care is paid out less than agency care? Taxes & Admin' costs. Its simple If you dont get admin fee your not liable ACC are & they know it. If you have been paying taxes levies & doing private care and are not getting admin' your a lot less off. If your not Dead all ready, 'cause you could'nt find caregivers who're willing to work for peanuts. But thats why the new legislations come about so you can feel good about paying your taxes & levies. just make sure your getting your full quota of administration and on going costs'. If you dont have it allready make sure you do when you start your own agency or buisness,
Something else that doesnt ring true is. acc keep calling their clients employers,. I've never known an employer that did'nt set their own employees hourly rate, employers call their own shots as to what fits their needs & situations. ACc are here to pay your ongoing cost pertaining to your injury & your entitlement.
They like to make themselves look generous by taking monies from the night shift & giving it to the day shift & calling it a pay increase.
Even with 15 dollars gross you'll be back where you started from before the legislation come about. How many more years do you think you'll have to wait before they put your hourly rate higher,?... Yeah not a good look is it. Ya'll better brush up on your chinese folks.
Some of the hourly rates i've seen in here are f*=* shocking 11;28 thats moved 1:28 in what 20 years. I know of a couple who are on 10.47 still How much has the cost of living moved & the price of oil. In 20 years. Agency area supervisors are on S30/hr its their job to find foot soldiers to work for 15 and less. Approved agency rates will always be higher cause they're in the pockets of the man. But i believe you can keep them honest by kicking out useless agencies & their staff and going it on your own with the admin fee. Without admin your pushing up hill.
You'll also need a good team good teams know how to keep overheads down thereby having more funds for wages. Having a top accountant always helps too.
And a good lawyer to keep the corporation on their toes in terms of the law.
Agency days are numbered as far as i'm concerned. sure they have their place, back in the mental institutions where they belong. controlling their clients with lsd & e.
ANY ONE KNOW who Gemini is & HOW TO GET HOLD OF HIM PM ME If he' real THANKS .
#16
Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:47 PM
#17
Posted 13 August 2011 - 02:27 AM
Is it better to choose your own from your community and have ACC pay them direct? Or how about agency carers instead?
FRED1956, on 02 April 2008 - 08:45 PM, said:
home help level 2 $13.50
personal care $14.50
mileage .30 after first 10 ks
this is after working in the service for 3 years
area whakatane
#18
Posted 30 September 2011 - 11:50 AM
Moeroa, on 13 August 2011 - 02:27 AM, said:
Is it better to choose your own from your community and have ACC pay them direct? Or how about agency carers instead?
Attendant care is community based worker eg: family or friend is paid at 14.40 an hour
For someone inexperienced and a family member the pay was brilliant
As with ACC policy does exist that if the community based worker is the parent or partner that will then not be paid to them as it is no longer seen as extra work but is provided as part of the parents partner responsibility lol
For someone who has worked in the industry with experience and possibly provide the claimant with their needs is still paid if using the community based worker allocation 14.40 an hour
Travel is not covered under ACC to the community based worker.
The claimant may apply and be approved for escorted travel under the act for travel for independence.
Not many realize they can apply for it and most miss out.
#19
Posted 30 September 2011 - 12:19 PM
escorted travel is where a claimant no longer is able to drive. it funds taxi pick up for appointments or shuttles they call them now and most taxi services provide this service now for wheel chair based clients. its also used when pre injury the claimant was the primary driver of the vehicle and can be used to transport the claimants dependant children or spouse if the spouse is unable to pre injury to drive the vehicle.
travel assistance is paid on mileage where the claimant usually is the driver. and i think is currently still rated at 28 cents per kilometre. which is paid to the claimant for travel to appointments assessments etc.
#20
Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:26 PM
Weak up NZ.