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#41 User is offline   Sparrow 

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 11:13 AM

Hi Witchipoo
Your entitlement to ERC or Weekly Compo will not cease if you receive IA.
Just watch your butt that you arent heading down the exit road, but I think you have all that control!!
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Posted 25 February 2008 - 11:47 AM

View PostWitchiepoo, on Feb 25 2008, 09:37 AM, said:

Medwyn, I am advised that ERC does not cease after a lump sum payment. ERC is not interferred with and remains. Anyways I'm not sure if I will be chasing Lump Sum or IA. My injury was 2003.

Yes, they haven't followed procedure - I will address that if necessary. The assessor is a qualified psych but does not have any other psych's report to analyse. Time will tell.

Me thinks it all very strange !

In a lot of Sensitive Claims for example, the client can go for a Lump Sum settlement or go on Weekly Comp and all services covered, note this is not the Independence Allowance.

Some choose lump sum and for them, that's it, no more funding on that claim.
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#43 User is offline   Witchiepoo 

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 12:07 PM

that's SAD Medwyn - sorry to hear that

Whatcha mean Sparrow ? exit road with IA ?
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Posted 25 February 2008 - 04:47 PM

Medywyn, Lump Sum is compensation for permanent impairment. It has nothing to do with ending other entitlements. Entitlements are Treatment, Weekly Compensation, Vocational and Social Rehabilitation, and Lump Sum compensation. It isn't an either or situation.

Independance Allowance is a quarterly payment for current impairment from injuries occurring before 1 April 2002. Lump Sum Compensation is for permanent impairment from injuries occurring on and after 1 April 2002.

You are entitled to be assessed for Lump Sum compensation for an injury date in 2003, I advise you apply by ring the ACC 0800 number and requesting an assessment. Have your claim number handy.
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Posted 25 February 2008 - 05:35 PM

NO! Exit road is not IA. It , as Waddie has said is an independent allowance.
I am just hoping that you have overcome all the exit stuff they have been trying out on you!
Good luck!
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#46 User is offline   Witchiepoo 

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Posted 26 February 2008 - 08:44 AM

Thanks for clarificatiion peeps - yes I think I have overcome exit strategies but you never know with the motley crew - they always find another excuse to try it on. Thanks for the good luck wishes. Will let you know the outcome in approx. 1 month.
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  Posted 15 March 2008 - 10:16 PM

Update....
Assessor did her thing and ACC recieved it the next week. Peer review has taken place and ACC recieved that on March 6th. Am waiting for some kind of ACC CM processing thing to take place before I can recieve a copy of the report the assessor wrote.

I'm a little uncomfortable with this cause I already believe the assessment to be incorrect and would prefer to make a comment before the assessment is tied to monitary compensation. Its not that I want to scam ACC - just to have an accurate assessment.

Oh well, at least everything seems to be happening faster now ... (?).
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#48 User is offline   redsquare74ucys 

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Posted 04 May 2008 - 06:35 PM

Still waiting....
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Posted 05 May 2008 - 06:32 AM

big rewrite is underway methinks..........this is the usual when case mongrel will not release reports in a timely manner.......
You will most likely find down the track when you get filkes relating that the report has been back to arsessor....For "clarification of issues"
These people are organised criminals that have absolutely no thought for the reality of the clients condition but of the KPI points to be earned individually team and branch.
ACC is a crooked tree that makes claimants walk crooked miles to exit ...........
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Posted 05 May 2008 - 11:31 AM

Lucy

Try ringing you CM at Hamilton or Dunedin and ask them what the hold up is. If no satisfaction, ask there teamleader.

Thank god mine is at Review stage, still a lot to deal with but at least have a chance to get the errors taken out. If one reads the assessors report, they get a incorrect story.

Give them a bit of push, backward, lazy twerps!!

Good Luck
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Posted 05 May 2008 - 06:00 PM

Ask for the report under the privacy Act this means that you should have it in 28 days.
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Posted 08 May 2008 - 12:20 PM

Please be aware Pyschologists & Pyschiatrists are still able to question you re your relationships, religion, childhood etc. This should be outlawed as it breaches Human Rights
& Privacy lAWS as it's not relevant.
If you get a chance check out the Merck Medical Manual BEFORE you undertake any form of Mental Assesment as you will find most of the things they assess people for are the Type of Personality you have e.g. Narcisstic, Borderline, Histronic, Psychopathic, Dependent, Litigatious etc.
For some reason Post Traumatic Stress is deliberately overlooked.
Too much weight is placed on these out of date practices.
How many people are aware women were diagnosed as Hysterical just because they were maybe nervous or tired after they gave birth in the 1940s as that's were the birth of "labelling" women with this came from. I have reliably heard of women suffering Post Natal distress more recently being diagnosed as Schitzophrenic in the same circumstances when they asked for Counselling.
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Posted 08 May 2008 - 12:41 PM

Merck Medical Manual is around $25 & available at Goodeys bookshop who have a website.

You may also like to check out " Pubmed" website which is the one that has access to Medical Publications, (sorry don't get confused or your hopes up with thinking it's got a list of Pubs where you can get Medicine!)

Always ask for a copy of all notes & documents( handwritten & computer etc, including emails sent by ACC etc to Provider) that ASSESSORS etc make on the day of your appointment, that way you know what they have/ not written.

You will find most Reports are written in similar Styles & tend to portray people as "Guarded" if you don't answer the way they want you to fill there "Quotas", despite the fact you may be a reserved & private person & have nothing much to say to some of the overbearing, not theirs or anyone elses damn business questions.

"YOUR PRIVATE LIFE IS YOUR PRIVATE BUSINESS"

If necessary just say 'why do you ask that question" & throw the question back at them & see what they say, it makes them squeam & puts them into place.
The decent ones will give you an Honest answer & be compassionate & understand.
You are entitled to ask for a Medical Person of Choice, male or female etc & if you so desire your own age etc.
You have Rights under the Health & Disabilty Code etc.

The Ministry of Health & Mental Health services websites are also helpful for info.
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 09:25 AM

A very large amount of the problem is that the assessor gets the wrong documents. Therefore tends to write the report on the ones given.

Need to be very vigilant and see that they have everything you want to be included.

Should not need to do that though as it is ACC's job to put together the RELEVENT documentation.

Getting it right at the beginning would be a huge help.

Cheers
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 10:51 AM

View PostMINI, on May 9 2008, 10:25 AM, said:

A very large amount of the problem is that the assessor gets the wrong documents. Therefore tends to write the report on the ones given.

Need to be very vigilant and see that they have everything you want to be included.

Should not need to do that though as it is ACC's job to put together the RELEVENT documentation.

Getting it right at the beginning would be a huge help.

Cheers
Mini



It is perfectly reasonable to ask to view the list of relevant documents BEFORE they are sent to the assessors "so you can be assured the assessor has ALL the relevant documentation".

An assessor has been known to REFUSE any other documentation bought on the day by the patient/client, so it pays to make the cm jump the hoops on providing the docos to you before sending them to the assessor.

The last time the cm sent me the full set of documents at the same time (knowing the package would get to me tooo late for changes to be made.........albiet I had asked and asked for a list in advance. It, of course, contained irrelevant documents to the extent that Complaints not only made the branch apologise, but warned that the assessor that got the irrevelant documents is not to see me in the future as the irrelevant docs have already been seen by the assessor and may contaminate any future assessment.

Make sure you have your ducks lined up in a proper manner.

Gloria
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 01:32 PM

Complaints don't always work.

Complaints just ignored the complaint when I wanted the list if covered injuries included.

this matter will be a fraud matter which goes back to documents and a decision in the 1980's.
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Posted 09 May 2008 - 01:59 PM

Hi girls and guys

No Dopple you are right complaints dont work. That is why I put all my energy into review and appeal.

Ducks in a row. Gloria? I fear they jumped in before me, like such a rush after review that you would think their lives depended on it. I think is being called, being pro-active, even before the review decision out. Looks like done on purpose as has happened twice now, once with IA and once with local office.

Am going to see what happens and as have IA at Review level again will just let the reviewer know what I think of their Proactiveness and how it affects us claimants. If it goes onto Appeal the same thing will have in front of the Judge. I am putting lots of effort into proving what happens to us, when it happens, rather than waiting until it is so pucked up we cant do anything about it.

Mind you I am very tired of all this hoo haa and will be glad when it is all over and I can jump the ditch.

Toodle pip and happy Mothers Day to all you Mums out there.
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  Posted 21 May 2008 - 10:16 PM

Good idea Gloria... wish I'd thought of that! I've been so stressed I don't think I could have.

PS.... I'm still waiting. I've not rung them for about a month - didn't want to seem to eager. I will ring again tomorrow and see if I can get a copy of the GP's assessment so I can decide on whether I should appeal.

*Sigh*
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  Posted 22 May 2008 - 11:35 AM

Called them again to ask for a copy of the assessors report. They say they can't send a copy until a decision has been made.....

Seems to me that if I had a copy of that report I could help speed things up by clarifying any grey areas.

When asked how long that would take, phone person also told me that if the decision is straight forward it will take a couple of days. If there are a couple of issues that they aren't sure about it can take longer (remember assessment was done mid Jan). I took that to mean that they are looking for a loop hole to get out of paying me anything at all - oooooh that sounded jaded....must have been on this site too long.

I am still desperate for any kind of relief that getting treatment would provide and since it goes against everything I believe in to take medication for this I just suffer on, hoping they will figure it all out soon.
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Posted 22 May 2008 - 05:20 PM

you could review the length of time that it is taking to make a decision.

Treatment what is the treatment that you require. your Dr or specialist would have recomended any treatment. Remember not all injuries can be treated and your injury might not be able to be treated.

Are you waiting on other rehabilitation and if so then get it moving by making ACC go to review. This will hurry ACC up, put the case managers KPI's out of wack.

Just sitting and waiting for ACC gives then control. Making ACC apply legislation put everything planed out the window.
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