[mutilated]

Moe, on Nov 22 2009, 11:12 PM, said:

Are there ANY good doctors in the ACC trough?

Hi

Is that a statement or querry,
I imagine some have some integrity but be wise I say ...
I been through a few Gp's in the last year and their ethics can disturb.
The answer I say if its a question its... who is on the list of choices of toads mainly
If you need a proffessional opinion or assessment done its safer to go independantly but choose wise and do some research and ask around about their reputation. Be careful who you listen to go by supported facts of reasons to referral not one opinion.
The wrong choice of Toad assessor can be valuable to Acc but not your health and Acc don't care.
The wrong choice of independant opinion can be a waste of money but the choice in all is yours...sometimes...

"MUTILATED"

[MINI]

Hey mongrel Dog

A 'split brain' is better than a 'dead one'!!!

Size 12 arse

[Moeroa]

Fair comment.

mutilated, on Nov 23 2009, 12:39 AM, said:

Hi

Is that a statement or querry,
I imagine some have some integrity but be wise I say ...
I been through a few Gp's in the last year and their ethics can disturb.
The answer I say if its a question its... who is on the list of choices of toads mainly
If you need a proffessional opinion or assessment done its safer to go independantly but choose wise and do some research and ask around about their reputation. Be careful who you listen to go by supported facts of reasons to referral not one opinion.
The wrong choice of Toad assessor can be valuable to Acc but not your health and Acc don't care.
The wrong choice of independant opinion can be a waste of money but the choice in all is yours...sometimes...

"MUTILATED"

[Moeroa]

Reality, on Aug 10 2008, 09:56 AM, said:

Seems like the whole world is out of step with you Maungataniwha, apart from Sparrow of course who is also prone to making unsubstantiated statements.

It appears that if some doctor thinks you are fit to work then he is a toady. Conversely if a doctor says that you are crippled then the sun shines out of his backside and he is your best mate for life. What a miserable existence you and Sparrow must lead, looking for stuff that proves you are crippled. Get a life, put your miseries to one side and concentrate on what you can do - if not for yourself then for others.

http://abcnews.go.co...=4614281&page=1

P.S. If all these 'Toadies" lie about you and injure you then how come they are still practicing? Surely you have complained to the numerous commissions that have been setup to investigate such serious issues. The Commission industry would love to hear from you - it helps to justify their existence, even if they find that your complaints prove to be baseless.

[MERLIN]

Medical Misadventure changes in 2005 to treatment injury.

http://www.nzma.org..../118-1216/1516/

These changes were to improve the finger pointing of blame,promote honesty,and relieve the burden of the onus to prove injuries.Or was it to legally give out wet bus tickets for injuring.
Now we are still expected to believe that the treatment injury division of the Acc are not cover up toads.
If you go to the Acc Appeal Decisions website it is full of treatment injury cases where the claimant was still required to either except treatment injury as said to be by the treatment injury division, or the onus is returned to the injured to prove their treatment injuries.
So the only improvement I can see gained by these changes, was to the medical profession as they are not held accountable for their incompetence/Negligence.

[Rosey]

Reality, on 23 August 2009 - 05:09 PM, said:

This Tipsinoza must be some cool guy if I'm apparently associated with him/her! I'm also meant to be the alter-ego of KeenToHelp as well so I'm honoured to be in such exalted company.

Thanks for posting those comments again Mehmet, its an opportunity to revist the tribute to Randy Pausch. I looked for comments about this amazing guy afterI posted the link but obviously inspiration is not on the agenda of most of the members of ACCForum.

http://abcnews.go.co...=4614281&page=1

Comments????

Moe, on 22 November 2009 - 10:12 PM, said:

Are there ANY good doctors in the ACC trough?

I needed an advocates but after reading the forum about advocates went it alone into the lion's den. So is this Keen To Help Spinoza, also Reality?


http://www.accforum....cc/page__st__20


http://www.accforum....in/page__st__20


http://www.accforum....in/page__st__20

hukildaspida, on 03 March 2011 - 11:19 PM, said:

KeentoHelphave you really had 28 years onhttp://www.acc.co.nz/?????

You must have an incredible case manager or is it because you are as dishonest as your brother formerhttp://www.acc.co.nz/contracted Private Investigator that you remain unscathed?


Quoted from Moe's post #26,3 March 2011 at 7.05pm

tspinozaon 15 Jan 2007 at 7.20pm

"I know there must be many really skilled affordable and useful advocates out there but out of my 28 years of dealing with ACC"

Reality, on 10 August 2008 - 07:56 AM, said:

P.S. If all these 'Toadies" lie about you and injure you then how come they are still practicing? Surely you have complained to the numerous commissions that have been setup to investigate such serious issues. The Commission industry would love to hear from you - it helps to justify their existence, even if they find that your complaints prove to be baseless.

[Moeroa]

Reality, on 10 August 2008 - 07:56 AM, said:

Get a life, put your miseries to one side and concentrate on what you can do - if not for yourself then for others.

http://abcnews.go.co...=4614281&page=1

P.S. If all these 'Toadies" lie about you and injure you then how come they are still practicing? Surely you have complained to the numerous commissions that have been setup to investigate such serious issues. The Commission industry would love to hear from you - it helps to justify their existence, even if they find that your complaints prove to be baseless.

See this video & note he enjoyed the support of family, the academic community and boasts a fantastic childhood. He was fortunately a child of privilege.

The terminal cancer people I know did not have such middle-class white male benefits to draw back on. Neither did they enjoy the ongoing privileges that come with being a white male in a post industrialised capitalist colony.






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Part I Traumatic Disorders

Chapter 1 A Forgotten History

Chapter 2 Terror

Chapter 3 Disconnection

Chapter 4 Captivity

Chapter 5 Child Abuse

Chapter 6 A New Diagnosis

Part II Stages of Recovery

Chapter 7 A Healing Relationship

Chapter 8 Safety

Chapter 9 Remembrance and Mourning

Chapter 10 Reconnection

Chapter 11 Commonality

From the Introduction
THE ORDINARY RESPONSE TO ATROCITIES is to banish them from consciousness. Certain violations of the social compact are too terrible to utter aloud: this is the meaning of the word unspeakable. Atrocities, however, refuse to be buried. Equally as powerful as the desire to deny atrocities is the conviction that denial does not work. Folk wisdom is filled with ghosts who refuse to rest in their graves until their stories are told. Murder will out. Remembering and telling the truth about terrible events are prerequisites both for the restoration of the social order and for the healing of individual victims.

The conflict between the will to deny horrible events and the will to proclaim them aloud is the central dialectic of psychological trauma. People who have survived atrocities often tell their stories in a highly emotional, contradictory, and fragmented manner that undermines their credibility and thereby serves the twin imperatives of truth-telling and secrecy. When the truth is finally recognized, survivors can begin their recovery. But far too often secrecy prevails, and the story of the traumatic event surfaces not as a verbal narrative but as a symptom.

The psychological distress symptoms of traumatized people simultaneously call attention to the existence of an unspeakable secret and deflect attention from it. This is most apparent in the way traumatized people alternate between feeling numb and reliving the event. The dialectic of trauma gives rise to complicated, sometimes uncanny alterations of consciousness, which George Orwell, one of the committed truth-tellers of our century, called "doublethink," and which mental health professionals, searching for calm, precise language, call "dissociation." It results in protean, dramatic, and often bizarre symptoms of hysteria which Freud recognized a century ago as disguised communications about sexual abuse in childhood. . . .





From Chapter 1
THE STUDY OF PSYCHOLOGICAL TRAUMA has a curious history–one of episodic amnesia. Periods of active investigation have alternated with periods of oblivion. Repeatedly in the past century, similar lines of inquiry have been taken up and abruptly abandoned, only to be rediscovered much later. Classic documents of fifty or one hundred years ago read like contemporary works. Though the field has in fact an abundant and rich tradition, it has been periodically forgotten and must be periodically reclaimed. This intermittent amnesia is not the result of ordinary changes in fashion that affect any intellectual pursuit. The study of psychological trauma does not languish for lack of interest. Rather, the subject provokes such intense controversy that it periodically becomes anathema. The study of psychological trauma has repeatedly led into realms of the unthinkable and foundered on fundamental questions of belief.

To study psychological trauma is to come face to face both with human vulnerability in the natural world and with the capacity for evil in human nature. To study psychological trauma means bearing witness to horrible events. When the events are natural disasters or "acts of God," those who bear witness sympathize readily with the victim. But when the traumatic events are of human design, those who bear witness are caught in the conflict between victim and perpetrator. It is morally impossible to remain neutral in this conflict.

It is very tempting to take the side of the perpetrator. All the perpetrator asks is that the bystander do nothing. He appeals to the universal desire to see, hear, and speak no evil. The victim, on the contrary, asks the bystander to share the burden of the pain. The victim demands action, engagement, and remembering. . . .

In order to escape accountability for his crimes, the perpetrator does everything in his power to promote forgetting. Secrecy and silence are the perpetrator's first line of defense. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence her absolutely, he tries to make sure that no one listens. To this end, he marshals an impressive array of arguments, from the most blatant denial to the most sophisticated and elegant rationalization. After every atrocity one can expect to hear the same predictable apologies: it never happened; the victim lies; the victim exaggerates; the victim brought it on herself; and in any case it is time to forget the past and move on. The more powerful the perpetrator, the greater is his prerogative to name and define reality, and the more completely his arguments prevail.

The perpetrator's arguments prove irresistible when the bystander faces them in isolation. Without a supportive social environment, the bystander usually succumbs to the temptation to look the other way. This is true even when the victim is an idealized and valued member of society. Soldiers in every war, even those who have been regarded as heroes, complain bitterly that no one wants to know the real truth about war. When the victim is already devalued (a woman, a child), she may find that the most traumatic events in her life take place outside the realm of socially validated reality. Her experience becomes unspeakable. . . .

To hold traumatic reality in consciousness requires a social context that affirms and protects the victim and that joins the victim and witness in a common alliance. For the individual victim, this social context is created by relationships with friends, lovers, and family. For the larger society, the social context is created by political movements that give voice to the disempowered. . . .








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1988 Cartwright Report condemns cervical cancer treatment
The report was triggered by the publication of an article by Sandra Coney and Phillida Bunkle, ‘An Unfortunate Experiment’, in Metro magazine in June 1987. This alleged that dozens of cervical cancer patients at National Women’s Hospital, Auckland, were receiving inadequate treatment.

Dr Herbert Green of the hospital’s cervical cancer clinic had become convinced that abnormal cells in the cervix, ‘carcinoma in situ’, did not always progress to invasive cancer. According to Coney and Bunkle, from 1966 he began monitoring women without treating them or informing them that they were taking part in an experiment. A number of women developed cervical cancer, and some died.

Two of Dr Green’s colleagues, Drs William McIndoe and Malcolm McLean, became worried about the experiment and tried to convince the medical establishment of its dangers. In 1984 they published a paper that they hoped would provide incontrovertible evidence. It took the Metro article, however, to bring the issue into the open.

The 18-page article caused public outrage and a Committee of Inquiry was established, headed by District Court Judge Silvia Cartwright. The resulting ‘Cartwright Report’ condemned the experiment and proposed radical new measures to ensure patients’ rights. The Report’s recommendations led to the establishment of the National Cervical Screening Programme, the office of the Health and Disability Commissioner, the Code of Health and Disability Services Consumers’ Rights, and nationwide patient advocacy services.

A number of women sued for damages and received settlement packages. Several doctors faced disciplinary charges, though charges against Dr Green did not proceed as he was deemed mentally and physically unfit.

Silvia Cartwright was made Dame Commander in 1989 for her services to women and later became New Zealand's Governor-General.

In the decades following the inquiry, a number of commentators, including Auckland University historian Linda Bryder, have strongly criticised the Cartwright Report. They have argued that there was no 'unfortunate experiment' and that the regime at National Women's was unexceptional for its time. Some have also maintained that changes to the medical profession and the development of patients' rights would have occurred regardless of the inquiry.

Image: The unfortunate experiment (detail) (<a href="http://www.womens-health.org.nz/cartwright/unfortunate.htm">Women’s Health Action Trust )




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http://www.nzhistory...cancer-patients

Down, on 16 March 2004 - 03:11 PM, said:

In my opinion this is pure and utter Bull S*** is this the best Dyson and & Co can come up with ... change the direction to again cover the butt's of incompedent Dr's and still have no accountabliltity or responsibility for their mistakes.

Time to start matching up the changes to the new Medical Practioner's Act due to come into effect on September the 18th this year and Dyson's new ACC changes.

[mimi]

The Corporation’s declining claims is because New Zealand is a guinepig country, the only country on earth where Torts Law is replaced by business called Accident Compensation Corporation. This national Corporation is an ideal business that lives on mandatory tax payer’s funds. As a business the corporation’s duty therefore is to protect grossly reckless doctors and award butchery. NZ doctor’s are fully aware of this fact and they are even told of this fact by the representative from the HDC office that they both ACC and HDC protect reckless doctors. I have attended a lecturing in which HDC representative said that they protect doctors NOT the people of NZ and was giving examples what they say when declining claim.

Weak up NZ.

[not their victim]

Mother died despite scan for blood clot
By Martin Johnston 5:30 AM Tuesday Sep 18, 2012

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Natalie Rae lived just one day after being discharged after surgery for leg pain.

Iris Rae and her grandson Braden Rae with a photo of Natalie. Photo / Natalie SladeNatalie Rae died from a blood clot the day after being discharged from a Counties Manukau District Health Board hospital following a series of scans that were negative for clots.

The 27-year-old died in front of her son Braden, then aged 6, and her mother Iris. An autopsy found she died of a blood clot in her lung.

"Her last words to me were 'Mum, I'm scared, I can't breathe'. That just haunts me," said Mrs Rae, of Half Moon Bay in Southeast Auckland, who approached the Herald after reading the start of our hospital mortality series.

"Braden's 9 now. He's still really suffering. He misses her badly."

More than two years after her daughter's death in March 2010, Mrs Rae is dissatisfied with the official investigations and believes no one has been held accountable. The doctor she considers most culpable is no longer registered to practise in New Zealand.

She disagrees with Health and Disability Commissioner Anthony Hill's view that her daughter's medical care was mostly reasonable and she has complained to the Ombudsmen about how the commissioner handled the case. She said Mr Hill's office had last week told her it was now looking further at some matters she had raised.

Mrs Rae said Natalie had a range of risk factors for deep-vein thrombosis (DVT), blood clots that can break up and block a blood vessel in the lungs. These included smoking, obesity, family history of DVT, oestrogen therapy, recent surgery and the associated immobility. Her doctors knew this.

In February 2010, Natalie had ACC-funded right ankle surgery at a private hospital to fix recurring problems resulting from a netball injury.

Four weeks later her surgeon sent her to Middlemore Hospital for an ultrasound scan because of swelling and pain in her right calf. He thought she probably had a DVT. A D-dimer blood test, which can indicate evidence of a clot - but also other causes - was strongly positive.

An ultrasound doctor could not do a scan that day, so Natalie was given a blood-thinning drug, allowed to go home overnight and had the scan the next day. The scan report findings included, "No DVT".

In the following days, two more scans were done, an MRI and, in the midst of those, a leg operation at the DHB to deal with what was thought to be a tissue problem causing the pain.

But the day after being discharged home, Natalie collapsed and couldn't be resuscitated, says a "serious and sentinel event" investigation report by the DHB. It found that one of the "root causes" of the "event" was the contribution of the negative ultrasound tests to the decision not to treat Natalie for DVT despite the high probability that she did have a clot.

The DHB later said the fallibility of ultrasound scans to diagnose DVT had not been fully understood. Pre-scan DVT probability was now taken into account and risk factors were listed on the scan request form.

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apply the Bolam test did they...minimum standard???

[jaffa]

How's ACC Advocate income going now Tony?

Reality, on 10 August 2008 - 09:42 PM, said:

So, you are now a psychic as well. That explains everything!

What leads you to believe I'm an ACC staff member other than providing a convenient excuse not to provide informaiton for those who read this forum. If I was part of ACC I would doubtless be already well aware of the giant conspiracy that everyone except you and the secret handshake members are part of?

Does it not occur to you that some members of the general public might just be irritated by the unsubstantiated crap you write.

You won't tell this forum your sources or the MP's name because it's all a figment of your fevered imagination.

Your last comment about not reading your posts does have a ring of truth about it. One thing I've noted with your posts that once you post crap nobody cares about it. This is presumably because no-one else on this forum has your psychic powers, special knowledge and proof of fake assessments, how much toadys are paid and the whole ACC conspiracy and "huge fraud".

What did you think about Randy Pausch's U-tube video?

[Sparrow]

in Reality he is very Questionable and still posting here under another name.

[Campy]

hukildaspida, on 09 September 2012 - 10:44 PM, said:

Exit Strategy - 60 Minutes interview featuring Hazel Armstrong, Denise Powell,Philip Schmidt, Vic du Plessis, Dr Peter Jansen

http://ondemand.tv3....81/Default.aspx


Has the ACC been on a determined campaign to "exit" long-term claimants? And does it use select doctors for its medical assessments with one principal aim - to reduce costs?
60 Minutes
Exit Strategy
Air Date:09/09/12 (33:55)

http://www.tv3.co.nz...80/Default.aspx

September 9th - Exit Strategy

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Has the ACC been on a determined campaign to "exit" long-term claimants? And does it use select doctors for its medical assessments with one principal aim - to reduce costs?

The allegation against the ACC is that it wants expensive long-term claimants off its books and to achieve this, it has been paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to certain doctors.

60 Minutes reporter, Melanie Reid investigates the corporation that some New Zealanders say is out of control.
See the story here >>

Read more: http://www.tv3.co.nz...x#ixzz25y5Utj3f

Reality, on 10 August 2008 - 08:33 PM, said:

So, this forum is here for you to write such considered and intelligent posts as your post in October last year....

Quote

(Sparrow @ Oct 26 2007, 10:45 PM)
The Doctors who earn the most in NZ, Notaryrose are the ACC TOADY Assessors.
We know of one who earns just on a $1million from ACC. He travels all over NZ.
Orthopods earn chicken feed compared to these jerks.
They earn extra if a person is kicked off as a result of their fake assessment.
If you were in ACC, you will know just who I mean!! Yes, he was doing it 17yrs ago as well!!!
Nice to have you on board!!!!!

So the secret handshake members have special information on what a toady earns (the most in NZ no less!) and that they get a kick off bonus as well. You have 'the knowledge' that they provide "fake assessments". "You know who I mean" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink).

What absolute crap you write. Full of accusations, not a single name or source for these amazing statements. No wonder Notary Rose never replied. If you think that this forum is only here for whingers like you then you give the other more serious posters a bad name that they don't deserve. Even Alan Thomas must be embarrassed to have you on this site.

Go on, publish a fact or a name for your October post and back it up with a source that can be independently checked. Bet you can't.

Have a look at the U-tube video of the late Randy Pausch, then post your opinion about what he has to say. Go on, do it

• Was Randy Pausch completely disabled with a progressive iatrogenic and illness and multiple physical, mental, medical and physiological injuries that left him permanently and prgressively disabled and housebound or wheelchair bound Tony?
• Did he suffer racism and sexism or marginalised for any other reasons?
• Was Pausch held at gunpoint and raped and tortured for months like some ours that cannot have children too?
• Or all of the above with PTSD and poverty like some members do?
• Was he persecuted and his life made into a living hell by ACC's controlling abusive behaviours?
• Was he isolated and alone without family or support and forced to remain bed bound, shivering on a urine soaked mattress for months on end?
• Or are you simply comparing him with other white middle class privileged AB males with families, societal support and good incomes of their own?

[Campy]

Marc, on 04 May 2013 - 02:21 AM, said:

This is a "should read" topic for all concerned with appropriate health care delivery, with fair, properly conducted assessments, with ACC or WINZ decisions based on such "assessments", done either by ACC assessors or by "designated doctors" that WINZ commonly use (since 2008 trained and mentored by their Principal Health Advisor Dr David Bratt):

Yes, feel "welcome" to our supposed to be truly “independent”, “fair” and “caring” HEALTH AND DISABILITY COMMISSIONER and his staff at their office.

As of recent, some actually quite bizarre, hard to understand “decisions” have been made upon complaints to the Office of the Health and Disability Commissioner. A recent one was made by the Deputy Health and Disability Commissioner Theodora ("Theo") Baker.

Having seen one such particular decision, I looked up her background and profile on 'LinkedIn', and by doing an on-line search, I found some perhaps revealing info re her last job at “Capsticks LLB”, which is a kind of large, virtually “corporate” style law firm in the UK, which does do a lot of work for NHS, private health care providers, trusts, and organisations that work with health care providers there.

See these links for extremely interesting and revealing information:

"Theo" Baker’s personal Linked In “profile” lists her background of having worked for the ‘Health and Disability Commissioner Office’ before – as “Director of Proceedings” from 2004 to 2009. Then she appears to have left that office for an “overseas experience stint” at ‘Capsticks Solicitors LLP’ in the UK for just over a year after that, presumably to get more “legal expertise” in the health sector there – see this:

http://nz.linkedin.c...aker/61/301/b64

See ‘Capsticks LLP’:

http://www.capsticks...iness-areas.php

http://www.capsticks...-litigation.php
(see comment re good record for “defending” “clinical negligence cases”!!!)

http://www.capsticks.../regulatory.php

http://www.capsticks.com/careers.php

That corporate law firm has even entered the “social housing” business now:

http://www.capsticks...ial-housing.php

"Theo" Baker suddenly returned to New Zealand and did in 2011 accept an appointment by the new Minister of Health, Tony Ryall, to take up a new job at the ‘Office of the Health and Disability Commissioner’ as Deputy Health and Disability Commissioner. She is according to on-line info and their staff chart responsible for “disputes resolution”! Anecdotal information about that “disputes resolution” is, that “resolution” appears to be more about “talking over matters” than investigating and holding medical practitioners and other health professionals accountable by applying sanctions or warnings. GPs I spoke to have confirmed that it is their impression that the new Commissioner is not one to take much of a "firm" or "adversarial" approach. Investigations and decisions that lead to disciplinary or other firm actions appear to be avoided, and a "consultative" approach is taken to "resolve" issues.

Now one may wonder and speculate re what motivated "Theo" Baker to come back to the HDC Office, and why National Party member and now Minister of Health Tony Ryall appointed her.

There was certainly some debate and controversy about the appointment of Anthony Hill as new Health and Disability Commissioner before, which the Otago Daily Times wrote about here:

http://www.odt.co.nz...ioner-paramount
(by the way, the author of that article, Stuart McLennan, was a former staff member of that HDC Office himself, as Complaints Assessor!)

On reading that ODT article, one has to ponder on Dr Des Gorman and his role again, being head of a number of key health administrations (now ACC Board member, so far Health Workforce NZ Chief, National Health Board leader, senior staff member at the Medical School of Auckland Uni, and so forth). He is apparently also a member of an international organisation called the ‘Medical Protection Society’! See this for VERY interesting information:

http://www.medicalprotection.org/
http://www.medicalpr...org/newzealand/

So Dr Gorman is a clear advocate for protecting the interests of medical professionals, and he was like other key stakeholders (government and other providers and so forth) tasked with the selection process preceding the appointing of the new Health and Disability Commissioner, whom they chose Anthony Hill to be.

Given this information, questions arise about the apparent lack of more resolute enforcing, of sanctioning “actions” and investigations, that have been taken and started under the present Commissioner and his team. Theo Baker herself does anyway appear to “blend in” well with the Commissioner and their office personnel, who now operate under the top Commissioner Anthony Hill, formally appointed by Minister of Health Tony Ryall.

Until this day, the 4th of May 2013, only 7 cases have been decided on in this year, which involved proper investigation and an official, published statement by that office:

http://www.hdc.org.n...-decisions/2013

That is a marked drop from what former, apparently more effective and committed Commissioner Ron Paterson did in the way of investigations and decisions upon complaints. He established a clear track record and enforced some reliable standards that others should be measured by.

So with the new approach and the drop in investigations, same as fewer published cases, one may wonder, do so very few “medical misadventures” or other “mistakes” or "failings" happen in the medical and treatment professions in New Zealand these days? That is also in view of an increased population for the country. Well, it seems like with statistics on “welfare”, suddenly figures “improve” under a more cost saving focused, and “burden off-loading” kind of government, and the particular commissioners and other key office holders they have appointed.

Any person who has had reason to make a complaint to the H+D Commissioner (numbers are rather unchanged or even up with these), and who wonders, why no satisfactory action is taken, just needs to draw their conclusions from reading and studying the info found under links shown above! It seems that if it does not involve any serious physical or psychological harm, or even life or death issues, not that much can be expected. A high work-load may of course contribute to that.

Sadly fairness, reasonableness, objectivity and accountability no longer appear to be a priority in many assessments and decisions to be made by many office holders in such key institutions in New Zealand, I am afraid!

Do not be surprised, if you are getting fobbed off, somehow "off-loaded", treated with insufficient respect, dignity and honesty, be this by ACC, WINZ or any health professional, acting under stress, pressures, and demands to perform responsibilities in a cost saving environment. It is time to worry, really!

Strangely that one very recent “decision” was about a WINZ designated doctor, who is well known to be a much used and seemingly preferred “assessor” for MSD and WINZ. The HDC Deputy Commissioner appears to have let him off the hook despite of apparently quite biased and questionable conduct, besides of a totally unfounded diagnosis and “recommendation”. The assessment and examination in question just happened to be “too long ago”, and his statement was “contrary" to the one by the complainant, was the simple conclusion, while an abundance of clear, well-documented evidence was apparently not considered worth looking at.

So the matter was "considered" to "not be worth investigating further”. Irrelevant information was given consideration and relevant facts were in part also ignored or not noticed.

Add the dots together: Some New Zealand institutions and agencies are no longer the transparent, accountable and fair ones that many still think they are.

The particular one "decision" referred to is being disputed, and no further details can and will be made available on this at this stage, for the sake of justice and the intention to avoid any "prejudice". It will be interesting what will come out of this.

Yet other decisions that have been learned about anecdotally and more, they speak a loud voice of extreme concern, about where some institutions like the Health and Disability Commissioner's Office are worryingly heading.

Be always mindful, alert and aware, dear folks!

Marc

Be wary of getting "help" from this forum too.

mutilated, on 22 November 2009 - 12:13 AM, said:

RON PATERSON HDC ... Who knows how many people have had their evidence or acts of defence sent to the perpetrator of crime from, putting in enough evidence to warrent an investigation within the complaint form... and hearing back WE won't look into this at this stage because...(FLAWED acts of law provided within letter) My letter was cc'd to perpertrator, and all involved in the content of the complaint form, without prior notice or further discussion. Not taking into the fact that this matter of complaint doesn't have to stop because HDC choose not to investigate. If you have enough evidence you do not have to involve the HDC...
HDC are not allowed to provide legal advise to either party..... LAW..

Faxes sent to HDC apparently don't arrive when ringing up to clarify if recieved and I got told no fax recieved and that is why nothing has progressed at that stage ,,,Two faxes..."no sorry nothing has arrived" I am told over the phone,Another complaint registered mail was sent instead of fax. NO Response...I phone to have a discussion why this is happening and I get conversation by them that this is a case matter that should be sorted out with Dr's, Specialists etc Fraud TOADS and the others involved... so I request full disclosure of the information they have obtained and the faxes are in the content of disclosed file,....

Work it out....To me its...Heads up perpertrator white collar, someones coming for you and here is what you can "try" to get away with it...We have stalled the process,???????????
Complainants BEWARE. Use the fore thought to destingwish who your complaint is confidential to and include this on your complaint and make it clear you are not nieve. http://www.accforum....ault/unsure.gif

My Treatment injury file was Denied copy by Treatment Injury, Denied access to view, by Hamilton branch, lost twice after I request by Acc and then handed to me by a ACC lawyer and the lawyer made me a copy....
You may wonder what I don't have in my file, I sure do....

As the recordings of conversation giving excuse where the file was found do not co incide with notations in the activities of my file.....I made a complaint with Acc complaints and got Restrictions of communication down too, in writing only.

I have gained two reports so far by requesting reports direct to the assessors, that were not in my file, by identifying what I haven't got reports from attended appointments after my file was disclosed to me by request for full disclosure under privacy act. I had to take the matter to the privacy comminissioner as the scheduled information was well overdue and complaining only got me restrictions to contact ACC.

"My case",Intentional mutilation is a criminal matter. It seems all my complaints even are cc'd to about five different recipients including Acc lawyers.... Internal Acc msgs in my possession discuss wanting to stop my contact for complaints with a tresspass order. I am not allowed to contact via ph and the review date of contact is well past and acc hang up and "don't" process complaints of my case managers inapropriate actions put forward in writting....And the case manager runs riot. ? The Ombudsmen won't disclose his communication between him and Acc about my case after supplied enough information to warrent looking properly at my case as a criminal matter from the evidence provided.
Privacy commissioner informed me they were convinced that I had recieved the full content of disclosure by Acc....(WRONG)

How big is the old boys network team Mehmet.? http://www.accforum....default/dry.gif
This is our voice to others..Keep up the good work !!! http://www.accforum....fault/smile.gif
NZ NATURAL INJUSTICE. And I can show support to every conversation http://www.accforum....efault/wink.gif

"MUTILATED"

[Campy]

Bring back mutilated.

snoopy, on 22 November 2009 - 05:04 PM, said:

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''alleged sculptured arse''
You yourself made very sure you were known publicly re tax issues well before i think it was flowers who nailed you good and proper as you deserved it at the time,as you attacked him nastily as you do at others.
dont claim poor me im being named and the judge will see it all
the judge knew full well exactly whom you were/where you came from and what you are doing the day he got the case if not before and claiming an influence of decision as to you being named in here is absolute bollocks from you but then being a bit mentally split ill give you a day off to get back to being claire before you need to respond instead of one of minis posts of nastys
what youve probably now realised is that when you go public at an entity you become well known publicly or otherwise and thus if someone in that entity or another dont like you then the consequences make you the author of your own misfortune.
stop blaming everyone else for your dumb moves.
there was plenty ways to do what you done without being Claire.

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[muzz]

so what is the best approach to get compensation for medical misadventure?
I know it wont make things right but shouldn't some one be liable and surely the victim...us...be entitled to some thing?
I have been put into a situation that falls into misadventure and want to know where to go next, it's a battle so far just with my GP.
I want to sue some bastard.

[MontyP]

muzz, on 11 March 2015 - 11:16 AM, said:

so what is the best approach to get compensation for medical misadventure?
I know it wont make things right but shouldn't some one be liable and surely the victim...us...be entitled to some thing?
I have been put into a situation that falls into misadventure and want to know where to go next, it's a battle so far just with my GP.
I want to sue some bastard.

Old post but my aunt didn't know to lodge treatment injury. Luckily her new specialist for her medical injuries did file the claim so that ongoing care and rehab could be provided for the damage. Hard to sue in NZ because of ACC but some of us have done so.

[MINI]

MontyP, on 16 November 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

Old post but my aunt didn't know to lodge treatment injury. Luckily her new specialist for her medical injuries did file the claim so that ongoing care and rehab could be provided for the damage. Hard to sue in NZ because of ACC but some of us have done so.

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[MINI]

MontyP, on 16 November 2017 - 01:39 AM, said:

Old post but my aunt didn't know to lodge treatment injury. Luckily her new specialist for her medical injuries did file the claim so that ongoing care and rehab could be provided for the damage. Hard to sue in NZ because of ACC but some of us have done so.