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Total Declinature Of Claim / Alan Thomas Allegations of working while incapacitated

#16181 User is offline   MINI 

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:19 PM

View Postgreg, on 15 June 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

I believe both should be given extended holidays until both play by the ACCforum.org rules.

64 Days each would be fair. By then , both should have worked out I and maybe others
just can't be bothered with their childish behaviour and want this forum to return and
do what most expect and believe this was setup for..


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Would you believe I don't give a shit about their lopsided rules that only help those that kowtow, When I am attacked I do not do that. 64 days is to short. How about six months or a year even. I wouldn't mind doing that or more to get rid of him. But who is going to give Alan Thomas time out. Be the other way round I think. Admin if I am right in who it is will be kowtowing to Alan Thomas big time.

Oh by the by I will be on holiday shortly anyway and then when I come back I have plenty of legal to do. No problem. How come Alan Thomas knows that the revamp of the forum wasn't because of what Brucey did. He says so in another thread.

Well I put up my stuff regarding the I\A/Lump Sum.

did you see the shit Alan Thomas came back at me with. I replyed properly even thanking him. Made no difference it was rubbish yet he still put it up for me to spend hours reading but I am not that stupid.

He even knew that the Ama guides was on here all the time. But he didn't put them up on my thread. playing silly buggers at his best.

However I think you will find the laugh is on him because there is a AMA Guides no 4 edition and an ACCAma gudelines. Very different they are and you could really get caught big time in court if you didn't use the two together. So the forum has one. Wheres the other Thomas.

You see Gregg. He doesn't care that he gives me rubbish or talks in front of others the rubbish he has that makes little sence for the unwary. he is not fit to give newbies advice, is what it boils down too. And he is a criminal and a player of ourselves for his own usage.

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:21 PM

:lol:

View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 June 2017 - 06:14 PM, said:

Mini reported x 5

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#16183 User is offline   MINI 

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:27 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 June 2017 - 04:16 PM, said:

Mini I have reported you are game for being off topic.
You will be coming perilously close to having your posting privileges modified.
Keep in mind that each time your posting privileges put on hold they will be for an extended period and will end up like blurbs privileges

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#16184 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:41 PM

Mini reported x 2
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:58 PM

View PostMINI, on 15 June 2017 - 07:19 PM, said:

Gregg

Would you believe I don't give a shit about their lopsided rules that only help those that kowtow, When I am attacked I do not do that. 64 days is to short. How about six months or a year even. I wouldn't mind doing that or more to get rid of him. But who is going to give Alan Thomas time out. Be the other way round I think. Admin if I am right in who it is will be kowtowing to Alan Thomas big time.

Oh by the by I will be on holiday shortly anyway and then when I come back I have plenty of legal to do. No problem. How come Alan Thomas knows that the revamp of the forum wasn't because of what Brucey did. He says so in another thread.

Well I put up my stuff regarding the I\A/Lump Sum.

did you see the shit Alan Thomas came back at me with. I replyed properly even thanking him. Made no difference it was rubbish yet he still put it up for me to spend hours reading but I am not that stupid.

He even knew that the Ama guides was on here all the time. But he didn't put them up on my thread. playing silly buggers at his best.

However I think you will find the laugh is on him because there is a AMA Guides no 4 edition and an ACCAma gudelines. Very different they are and you could really get caught big time in court if you didn't use the two together. So the forum has one. Wheres the other Thomas.

You see Gregg. He doesn't care that he gives me rubbish or talks in front of others the rubbish he has that makes little sence for the unwary. he is not fit to give newbies advice, is what it boils down too. And he is a criminal and a player of ourselves for his own usage.

Mini


The best thing you can do now is leave if you don't agree with the rules and conditions you signed.

Bye bye . What you post on any page will have a thousand + copies so don't expect you info to be still personal.

You continue to bitch about your personal info being used by others , yet you agreed to it being done.
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:06 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 14 June 2017 - 10:27 PM, said:

Starting up businesses is nothing to do with ACC. It is all about the tasks for earnings and not profit income from investment.

I did lots of different things to achieve earnings. ERC is to do with earnings and not occupation.
Medical rehabilitation is to the safety of doing the same earnings tasks.

Pre injury occupational tittle is irrelevant to the ACC Act.

Isn't correct that you desribed one of your occupations before your accident and injuries as a design engineer
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:32 PM

View Postdoppelganger, on 15 June 2017 - 08:06 PM, said:

Isn't correct that you desribed one of your occupations before your accident and injuries as a design engineer


Over the year before stopping earning:
Project management
Mechanical engineering
Mechanical design engineering
Tool-making
Welding
Machine shop work
Panel-beating
Control systems engineering
Systems Engineering
Sales Engineering

plus lots of other tasks

Why do you thing it is relevant to getting the required medical treatment?
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:05 PM

Mini you said
"He even knew that the Ama guides was on here all the time. But he didn't put them up on my thread. playing silly buggers at his best.

However I think you will find the laugh is on him because there is a AMA Guides no 4 edition and an ACCAma gudelines. Very different they are and you could really get caught big time in court if you didn't use the two together. So the forum has one. Wheres the other Thomas."


I asked how to place an image and suchlike on a thread but anamousy just wanted to play silly games as she always does. I have posted the who;e AMA several times before.
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:20 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 June 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

Over the year before stopping earning:
Project management
Mechanical engineering
Mechanical design engineering
Tool-making
Welding
Machine shop work
Panel-beating
Control systems engineering
Systems Engineering
Sales Engineering

plus lots of other tasks

Why do you thing it is relevant to getting the required medical treatment?


Alan


Are you sure you are not describing to Dopple ... a few basic tasks or skill sets?

It may be that when these are combined ... they would lead only to one particular occupation? If you pop along to your local polytechnic they should be able to assist you in this regard eg give them your CV or Resume of these particular items ... and imho they will be able to provide constructive feedback on sorting out the problems you are having here with ACC & others ...

Also because you mention *plus lots of other tasks* this is a second reason why I would not consider such a list as you write above to be a list of occupations for one person at a young age or working for family in self employment efforts such as you described befores etc

A third reason, would probably be the fact that you appear to have done such tasks for *a year* only ... this could likely also pose difficulties IMHO

And lastly, for each of those items, how on earth would anybody describe the training and correlated qualifications to support any such alleged occupations etc

This may be where some of the confusion is occuring with your stories Alan

IMHO if you are reporting in here such lists with such terms, or, to any medical or occupational assessors, that you held such a blah blah occupation at time of injury - the sheer scope of the qualifications required; &or the levies necessary to pay on each occupation would be phenonemal IMHO ... & could prove to be a problem.

The good news is that there are likely lots of transferable skills and numerous non-demanding skills which can be examined by the experts [in their field] who could advise you on any rehabilitation and return to work programmes etc

For most discussions online or in real life with different people, I would consider several of those listed items to be trade occupations by themselves Alan. Plus normally only one title is held by people which is usually their most qualified or most remunerated in employment fields to be the *occupation* that should be listed and confirmed with ACC imho ie what is the most significant task activity group and Occupational Title &or Responsibilities which brings in the regular income etc

For example, welding skills may be necessary for many different trades and settings Alan ... but then the person would actually do this job as an occupation for 40 hours a week would likely result in a particular levy payment to ACC...

Or another example, would be if a person claims to be a panelbeater for 40 hours per week ... then again different requirements & expectations etc

A Project Manager however would be measured differently against these tradey occupations ... and likely higher qualifications and expertise would likely be necessary with numerous references before one can call themselves by this occupational title Alan.

As there are numerous *engineering* programmes being offered by polytechnics around the country Alan, imho you might be very surprised to learn the skills and outcomes expected nowadays for new graduates etc

I think this qualification is several steps higher than the ones you have described in here times past Alan ... but here are a few values, skills or tasks &or concepts registered FYI

in-engineering-mechanical-engineering/New Zealand Diploma in Engineering - Mechanical Engineering

Study Mechanical Engineering and learn about the design, manufacture and management of engineering projects and equipment maintenance. The industry has experienced substantial growth over recent years due to developments and globalisation of engineering design, research, technology and manufacturing processes.

This qualification has been designed to provide specialist technicians and technical engineers in the mechanical engineering industry, and many of our graduates secure employment before they even finish their qualifications.

Gain a sound knowledge, understanding and practical appreciation of mechanical engineering processes and theory, by developing your ability to apply learning in a practical and innovative way. Use this qualification to gain the necessary expertise and you could find work as an engineering machinist and toolmaker, designer or specialist technician.

Alternatively, employment opportunities may arise in areas such as light fabrication sheetmetal work, heavy fabrication for building or truck and vehicle frames, or welding. With hard work and experience, you could even set your sights on careers in project management.

Skills required
Practical thinking
Analytical and problem-solving skills
Good computer skills
Planning and organisational ability
Excellent communication skills.


You will study

The aim of the New Zealand Diploma in Engineering is to provide skilled and competent engineering technicians who:
Apply engineering theory to practice and competently perform technical operations to the standards, ethical and professional responsibilities required by the engineering profession

Have a knowledge sufficient to permit informed, rational decision making in a specialist field of engineering and to implement these decisions

Will work collaboratively with construction workers, clients, authorities, agencies, industry and other professionals to provide a comprehensive engineering service in the relevant specialist area

Have an understanding of all cultures and, in particular, an awareness and clear understanding of the tangata whenua and the implications of the Treaty of Waitangi and the Resource Management Act.

As these courses have a high practical content, relevant work experience would be an advantage. You will also learn through theoretical study and laboratory sessions.

Recognition of Prior Learning

If you have extensive knowledge and skills due to practical experience in this area, enquire about our recognition of prior learning process at Capable NZ. You may have already gained credits towards this qualification


Then if you have this level of qualification and experience within the occupational job as an *engineer* Alan ..next step is to go to the workplaces
http://www.trademe.c...engineering.htm

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:26 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 June 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

Mini you said
"He even knew that the Ama guides was on here all the time. But he didn't put them up on my thread. playing silly buggers at his best.

However I think you will find the laugh is on him because there is a AMA Guides no 4 edition and an ACCAma gudelines. Very different they are and you could really get caught big time in court if you didn't use the two together. So the forum has one. Wheres the other Thomas."


I asked how to place an image and suchlike on a thread but anamousy just wanted to play silly games as she always does. I have posted the who;e AMA several times before.
Ask your friend to be a good person


Alan Thomas

For the second time inside 24 hours I draw your attention to the following posting written by you nearly ten years ago to the day ...

This is the simple method which you and many other members used back then ...


View PostAlan Thomas, on 12 June 2007 - 06:36 PM, said:

Medwyn I only learned to use this file attachment feature recently. I had a devil of a job figuring it out that someone talked me through it on the phone.

"type your message in the normal way"

You need to open up on the "add reply" or "new topic" so you see the:
"file attachments" panel,
"browse",
"add this attachment".

Press the "browse" button which will allow you to navigate your own files to locate the file you wish to post. The file needs to be compatible. (For a scanned document it is best in something like GIF format 50 - 100kb)

Double-click on that file

then press "add this attachment"

then press "Add Reply"

if you get it wrong use the "full edit"




I have also given you the proper methods provided by this software platform ...

I have also explored several reasons for your problems ...

I strongly recommend that you contact any of your IT Cohorts and stop slamming me with your abuse Alan :angry:
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:33 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 June 2017 - 10:05 PM, said:

... I have posted the who;e AMA several times before....




Alan Thomas

If you read the relevant information from me again ... you will see that I have stated that I have never seen such a document from you or another member in here ... so there is no way that I have ever been able to download such an alleged file from you or this forum :wacko:

Also imho if you read the information from Mini again ... I know that I read her words as saying your purported AMA file where ever it may be hiding ... could be incomplete and only 50% of the required Assessment Tool :blink:

I am just gobsmacked at the huge differences involved here, with you saying, you have supposedly shared such a file several times previously :blink:


HTH anonymousey
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:57 PM

anonymousey
Your ideas and information is wrong. Medical recovery options come 1st and make all what you have written irrelevant. In any event occupation tittle has no place in determining ongoing ERC entitlements until medical plans have taken place.

I am waiting for the surgery that I was awarded so I can return to what I was doing to earn before being injured. What is needed is ACCs obedience.

Not only is what your have written irrelevant but your understanding of the ACC law is totally wrong at my stage, the initial stage.

You should study what I have written and learn so you stop misleading both yourself and others
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:59 PM

View Postanonymousey, on 15 June 2017 - 10:33 PM, said:

Alan Thomas

If you read the relevant information from me again ... you will see that I have stated that I have never seen such a document from you or another member in here ... so there is no way that I have ever been able to download such an alleged file from you or this forum

Also imho if you read the information from Mini again ... I know that I read her words as saying your purported AMA file where ever it may be hiding ... could be incomplete and only 50% of the required Assessment Tool

I am just gobsmacked at the huge differences involved here, with you saying, you have supposedly shared such a file several times previously


HTH anonymousey


No you are wrong
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Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:00 PM

View Postanonymousey, on 15 June 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

Alan Thomas

For the second time inside 24 hours I draw your attention to the following posting written by you nearly ten years ago to the day ...

This is the simple method which you and many other members used back then ...






I have also given you the proper methods provided by this software platform ...

I have also explored several reasons for your problems ...

I strongly recommend that you contact any of your IT Cohorts and stop slamming me with your abuse Alan Posted Image


You have not read what the problem is so can not advise.
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Posted 16 June 2017 - 03:30 PM

ACC has just accepted cover for my knee and ankle injury..

Does anyone know of a good physiotherapist that specialises in this type of injury in around the North shore Auckland area?
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Posted 16 June 2017 - 04:22 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 16 June 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

ACC has just accepted cover for my knee and ankle injury..

Does anyone know of a good physiotherapist that specialises in this type of injury in around the North shore Auckland area?


Suggest you check your GP Health Clinic does not have one on site?

Also might be an idea to compare the charges you will have to cover for sessions Alan. Some clinics or practitioners require your contribution paid as you attend etc
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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:12 PM

View Postgreg, on 15 June 2017 - 07:58 PM, said:

The best thing you can do now is leave if you don't agree with the rules and conditions you signed.

Bye bye . What you post on any page will have a thousand + copies so don't expect you info to be still personal.

You continue to bitch about your personal info being used by others , yet you agreed to it being done.


Gregg

No I didn't I came in and registered in 2007 so it says on my profile. Haven,t signed anything since.

Havent you worked it out yet. They cant do anything to me now..........that they haven't done a million time worse before.

In a matter of, with in this year who is the one still able to do whatever they like and free. Going in and out of country, having that type of freedom. I can name one that wont be, and another that probably not, another couple (3)threatening to kill, hardly likely to be free.

Where do I agree to others using my information, and more to the point where is it that I bithched about people using my information or my documentation. I have nothing to hide never did in fact.

of course it is best if I stay out of here and the day is going to come when I do. However if it will not happen until my name cannot be used in here, because it will not let you. In the meantime I can cope with you or H8ACC and Whetu or anyone who cares to come up against me. The powers that be know where to find you all if anything should happen to me. And how many copies of my house would be out there now do you suspect or my address, would you wonder, and who has the right to put them out there for others to grab do you think??

you watching out for Alan Thomas, Nottingham and Butler are you Gregg. Is what they did to me bring any sympathy my way..........NO??? You think the only way to deal with these cesspots is for me to go hide!!! MMMM interesting. BUT Get a life.

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:47 PM

View Postanonymousey, on 16 June 2017 - 04:22 PM, said:

Suggest you check your GP Health Clinic does not have one on site?

Also might be an idea to compare the charges you will have to cover for sessions Alan. Some clinics or practitioners require your contribution paid as you attend etc


My GP does not work in a health clinic..
I have a private doctor.

Does anybody know what the ACC should be contributing towards physiotherapy for a knee and an ankle injury. My hand injury and now finger injuries have always been 100% covered by the ACC. Is there a difference? If so why? Is there a different part of legislation or regulations?
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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:48 PM

Mini please let your aggression off my thread. I only want to be dealing with ACC matters.
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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:54 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 June 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

Brucey don't be so ridiculous.. Of course you made a deliberate and concerted effort to destroy this site.
Why do you think you suffered a period of time out? Have you not learnt your lesson?
You contributed nothing towards the knowledge base of the ACC legislation and the ACC administration.
This site has been and always will be a useful tool.
Your problem is is that you are being used as a tool by other people whether you realise it or not.

With regards to ACC making false allegations against myself and a great number of other claimants that has been and always will be a topic of discussion on this site as it is necessary for other members to learn from what the ACC are doing and how to protect themselves against it. For example we learnt how Douglas weal and Kenneth Miller together with David Butler conspired to make false allegations against me and then did go on to commit perjury making those false allegations. They allow themselves to be used by the ACC in order to disrupt my appeal to the 1997 decision to cancel my claim.. Have you not been reading the facts that I have been presenting? Do you not learn from what we are seeing?

We must eliminate any notion that evil can come on to the site and act as a so-called "tag team" which we still see some of the residuals carrying on in this behaviour right now. Of course you are not able to convince anybody that you are not a co-conspirator in the attempt to destroy the site. You have simply been given a lot of leeway in the hope that you will learn and advance.

The allegations you accuse of above Thomas where you spread widely that same accusation in this thread,
Are NOT false as you allege.
You were found guilty in the courts and until you appeal the verdict of Guilty. And overturn that conviction. Then no matter what you proffer wordsmith lie about it as your version to look good in here as the aggrieved one.Always forever you will remain the very radical unstable in mind person who planned to maim kill others,no matter how much you call others liars.
What must be eliminated is you Thomas spreading falseness in here that you were not planning to blow up the acc When the judge found quite rightly that that you were.
Some of your writings ,as a lot have been over the years,are still most concerning to some readers of your prose of radicalism ideals.
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