David Butler, on 08 June 2015 - 09:49 AM, said:
You show a problem re CONTROL issues kennyboy
It is clear that you consider this a major problem to yourself that YOU do NOT NOW have any control over the accforum
You as an initial one of a number of other persons who assisted in the set up and provided of initial funding along with others to get it up and running did have considerable influence re the running and content of this site within your given duties as a admin moderator.
You then went to and Systematically with a plan,attacked / one by one ,those you wanted out the way to give you sole control as a moderator of the forum of which you were given those duties by the OWNER's of the accforum.
You made a mistake and attacked the owner of the forum by underhandedly carrying out things that were NOT ALLOWED within your duties so you were sacked by the OWNERS of the accfroum ,
No one but the owners SACKED YOU kennyboy.
Losing that position thus any control that you had arrived at ,you went on the attack, anyone within the accforum ,Whom did not accede to your plans to take over CONTROL by default this forum with the setting up of your own and you attacked anyone you could find to attack and still do as of this day,
Along the way Since the forums inception and to this day -you have caused considerable damage with your actions in that endeavor.
Whilst Thomas like you may have had an influence re suggestion on the running of this forum there is Only ONE OWNERSHIP in place and that is the W I S LANG Family with A AR ON being the main computer nerd who keeps it here.
You created a problem there as you were the moderator who did the day to day containment of crap going on Mainly to suit your own agenda and the Owner admin himself then received overnite a very heavy workload to keep the place going but he could not be here day in 24/7 and the result's >what we all see now
The issue re control goes back to ownership and the ONLY control of content that is apparent is when it directly affects the actual owners the W i slan g's where anything detrimental to them is simply removed but anything else is left
Thomas enjoys this as he dosent have to have any control as thats what he wants a RADICAL membership and anything aimed at him he also enjoys arriving somehow in the hope that he wil be able to use it in his allegedly biggest case of internet abuse nz has ever had with him as the victim[another losing court case coming u there]
The Philosophy[ via Alan T and Miles W Bible of behavior] of the site as its always been, has always themed as radically minded to allow the outing of anything the official / government etc do that is wrong seemingly wrong or nit even wrong at all is blasted out in public to show up the official's as no good
That philosophy [VERY BIASED AT THAT ]still stands of this day but has created a forum where the NAIVE owners have left themselves with quite a pickle to contend with and at present all they can do is to the PROTECT the FAMILY at all costs and see what happens Plus i doubt they could pull the site down even if they wanted to as one it would affect there own self persona of how great they are and Two ,the authorities want it kept going to keep an eye on the membership of this and offshoot sites re troubles that loom up to be bigger ones.And we do know that our admin is very cosy with the POLICE very cosy with ACC as well as and when the need arises-after all hes in software security systems and finds people out there in the net as part of the security work-Quite a neat wee set u he has In HERE- HE DONT EVEN HAVE TO LOOK FOR YOU -They/ YOU's come to him and then to -well just guess your way further folks.
The laudamn has been an issue and that has affected the W is langs a lot where they have found that whilst they could control anything about themselves in this forum because of there manner of operation the issue simply got taken out of here to the internet world as a whole and there the W i slan gs have discovered they are NOt the great almighty in control of a radical forum where they can protect there themselves but find themselves in the exact same position they HAVE allowed the members of there won forum to be in within the accforum
Quite nice i think Karma time there and its not all over yet as if anyone does a full run down on this place out there then the owners here have more problems;
They naively started something thinking they could control and be no ones and dumbly gave the control of the forum to you and they really have you to thank for all there troubles keenyboy as most of the forum members who are in a similar position can only but thank you as the ONLY main catalyst to disaster
The day the forum morphed out of here- basically it escaped from in here ,as the owners couldnt control it from escaping no more,AGAIN very much THANKS TO YOU KENNYBOY >I JUST GAVE YU A HELPING NUDGE

was the day the place began its road to extinction as an operating site of any use to anyone re acc matters.
Have a nice day kenny
YOU NOT SO SOLID WITH FACTS AS YOU THINK YOU ARE
Whilst Thomas needs showing up as a wordsmithing radical germ your attacks at him asthe owner have really been your downfall Miler and others ,Pick on what you think is the weakest link dosent always work i'm afraid keeny But then you wernt game enough to go head on with aa ron now were ya weasle head? and looky's where ya ended up now KENNYBOY What a mess your in.
and continuing as you have for years with nothings hoping youll win and be the CONROL FREAK you are amongst the acc claimants community
YOU WONT Matey not a shite show of that .
So keeny
Control>YOUVE LOST IT never really had it anyways you weer a stooge for the Family ownwers mate
Why you are concerned about a conspiracy to gain control of this forum when there was /IS never any way of anyone else but the Wi s lang s control remaining as they own it-im not sure keeny re your concerns there at all and the why you are concerned re that word CONTROL.
Probably as a no more admin you can NOT Prevent the truth about yourself being in here something that we all know annoys the crap out of you very much.
You replied to my writings with that post kenny so Witness;s re conspiracy Not a problem kenny
al set pat there to be shown whenever your ready.
me thinks >>>>if it cant be a good forum Let the lunatics escape from in here to there own asylums out there and then lets keep it a shite hole till someone gets it all in court.
David.

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Games Narcissists Play
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by Alexander Burgemeester on June 6, 2013 ·
92 Comments Narcissists are masters at playing mind games. They play to win and take no prisoners. They are poor losers and if they don’t win they will often react in a fit of rage and stomp away like a little child. The only way for the other person to win is to
not play. Here are some of the more common games that narcissists play:
A MUST READ
http://thenarcissist...rcissists-play/
#1 Ping-Pong: When a person begins to understand how a narcissist works, he or she realizes that it’s a bit like playing ping-pong. Anytime a narcissist has tself-reflect about anything, they will immediately throw the ball back to the person they consider their opponent. Narcissists will
always throw the ball back to the other person. They do this in the expectation that they won’t have to take responsibility for their behavior. Narcissists hope that by not taking responsibility for their own actions (by using blaming, shaming, projection, denial, etc.) their partner will do what they have always done-forgive the narcissist, make excuses for the narcissist’s behavior, claim the narcissist couldn’t help himself because he was having a bad day, and so on. The narcissist is a moving target and you are always on the firing line. To get away from them (or expose them), you always have to keep an eye on the ball i.e., their actions and motives for playing their games with you. You have to stop wanting to play.
You can stop catching the ball and put it back in the narcissist’s court by setting boundaries and making him aware of his actions. He then realizes he has no one to play with anymore. He will either drop the person like a hot potato, try to punish the person, or run away.
#2 Gotcha! The narcissist can be a master of phony empathy. He appears to take you in, appears to understand what you are experiencing, and appears to genuinely be able to put himself in your shoes. These acts cause you to let your guard down; just when you think there is a genuine give-and-take in your relationship, he pulls a fast one on you-a “gotcha”- most often when you’re at a low point. He will suddenly tell you about his extraordinary new career move, a luxurious trip that he’s taking, or a huge shift in financial status that will make you feel even more diminished. Narcissists perfectly execute an unexpected psychological pounce; their purpose is to grind you down, to humiliate you, and make you feel small and inferior.
#3 Crazy Eights: This is a favorite game of narcissists…YOU are called crazy anytime you try to confront them, bring up past issues or behaviors, or expose them when they’re doing something appalling. The game goes like this: you are told that you have an overly active imagination, you don’t know what you’re talking about, they have no idea what you’re talking about, or that you’re simply making things up to cause problems. They’ll tell you that it’s obvious that you are the one who is crazy (and tell you that everyone around you agrees with them about you being crazy).
They will claim not to remember even unforgettable events, flatly deny they ever happened, and will never entertain the possibility that they might have forgotten. This is an extremely aggressive and infuriating tactic called “gaslighting”, a common technique used by abusers of all kinds. Your perceptions of reality are continually undermined so that you end up without any confidence in your own intuition, memory, or reasoning.
#4 Death by a Thousand Cuts: This is a really fun game that all narcissists like to play! It involves destroying your soul, your ego, your accomplishments and any belief system you have that does not agree with their beliefs. The way the game is won is for them to try to turn everything about you, and everything you do, into a complete failure. Extra points are given when they can take all the credit for anything good that has ever happened and put it all in their own pot. Double points are earned when they manage to put all blame for anything bad onto the other player.
#5 Twenty-One: In this popular game, you’re not allowed to ever reach the emotional age of 21. Even if you are 50 years old, you will still be treated like a child (a stupid child, a bad child, a silly child, etc.). You don’t get to have face cards and if you do get an ace, it’s only worth one point.
#6 The King/Queen Game: The most important part to remember about this game is that no one can know the rules except the king or queen. Either the king or queen gets to make up rules as they go along; they don’t have to tell the other players the new rules and they can change the rules whenever it suits them. They are the king or queen and, therefore, always win the game. You can be penalized for breaking the rules, even if they chose not to tell you the rules.
#7 Cat and Mouse: This is a kind of competitive patience (solitaire) game for two players. It is also known as Spite and Malice. The cards are arranged from low to high with the Kings being wild. Suits (the normal order of things and\or common societal rules) are irrelevant in the game. The game ends when someone wins by playing the last card of their “pay-off” pile. The game can also end if the players run out of cards, in which case the result is a draw.
Cat and Mouse (or Spite and Malice) is a perfect game for a narcissist because it is actually a form of solitaire, it requires “one upmanship”, and involves pulling out “better” cards to beat the opponent.
It involves a “payoff” and for the narcissist, that usually means hurting you somehow. They keep track of real or imaginary things you do, have done, or might do. This is their “pile” and they will pull a card from it and use it against you whenever possible.
#8 Liars Poker: Individuals with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) play this game fantastically. They are accomplished liars. Their complete persona and their entire world are totally based in lies. Their positive attributes and alleged actions are all made up in order to get other people to give them their fix of narcissistic supply-praise, adulation and accolades.
#9 Keep Away: This is a game that you, yourself, must learn to play. It is important to recognize that the narcissist will never acknowledge that any games are being played; it is up to you to stop playing. To do this, you need to stop bringing up past events/behaviors because you will always be told you’re wrong, they are right, and that you need help. Don’t try to get them to acknowledge or take responsibility for their words or actions because they will always say they didn’t do it or it never happened.
If you are in a relationship, you can walk away from the toxic narcissist in your life. If your boss is an abusive narcissist, you can find another job. You can walk away from your parents, too, if they are abusive.
If you choose to stay, one way to stop playing their game is to not respond to jabs, barbs, pleas, put-downs etc. It is difficult to stop, but perhaps thinking of it this way will help: if you’re playing a game of catch with a ball, the only way to stop the game is to not catch the ball when thrown or not pick up the ball and throw it back. It is possible to stop playing games with a narcissist but just be prepared for an onslaught of negativity, accusations and histrionics. Ignore inciting words, do not respond back to inciting words, hang up the phone (with proper notice such as “I’ve got something I need to do “-not slamming it down) or leave the location where he is at. There are many ways for you to refuse to catch the ball or put the ball down and not throw it back. This is the game of “Keep Away”-you stay away, walk away, and refuse to play.
References:
http://postcardstoan...arcissist-play/
http://well sphere.com/mental-health-article/concealed-narcissist-play-gotcha/957000
http://www. darksouls-the book.com/ping_pong. Html