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Total Declinature Of Claim / Alan Thomas Allegations of working while incapacitated

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 10:04 PM

View PostDavid Butler, on 16 September 2014 - 07:37 PM, said:

I AM the Owner of Snoopy and Urquharts Investigations Inc.Posted Image
AS the director of proceedings of The Snoopy and Urquhart team and also Chief of staff of investigatiors.
I am entitled to have possession of documents to investigate apon Claire
YOU have a problem with that at all ??
let me know wont ya if ya do now.
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This is an accurate explanation of Rat/Dog Buttler and Tomo's tag team

Psychopaths lie in order to dominate others
Because relationships are games to them, and because they view other people as objects and feel completely justified in exploiting them, psychopaths know that deception creates an uneven playing field. Lying is integral to impression management and mirroring; the lies enable psychopaths to present false images of themselves to potential targets. Those targets lose the ability to make safe and appropriate decisions. They enter into the relationships, unaware of the danger in store for them. Then, once the targets are hooked, psychopaths continue to use lies, along with a sprinkling of truth, in a multitude of ways, to ensure that their targets keep “playing.” They lie to cover up cheating, alcoholism, drug use, and sometimes various illegal activities. They lie through evasion and by withholding information. They lie as a form of gaslighting, in order to increase their control over their targets by making them constantly question themselves. They often repeatedly tell the ultimate lie, that they “love” their targets. And, they lie just for the fun of it.

Psychopaths actually feel a form of pleasure when they lie
Unlike lies told out of fear or to hide shame, psychopathic lies are often told because they bring a shallow form of pleasure to the liar. This is called “Duper’s Delight.” This explains why psychopaths sometimes lie when it is completely unnecessary or when the truth would be more advantageous. Psychopaths also include a variety of details in their lies, not only because it makes their lies sound more credible, but also because they enjoy constructing a false reality and making others believe it. It feeds their need for power and provides them with sick entertainment.

Psychopaths lie effortlessly and are very convincing
Psychopaths experience pleasure from lying because they lack the normal range of human emotions. They are empty and bored, they lack empathy for others, and they do not feel shame or remorse. This emptiness also enables them to lie with minimal effort. They can look other people straight in the eye, without flinching, and lie quickly and guiltlessly, even when confronted with probing questions and evidence of previous deception. It is also easy for them to deny the lies, make up excuses, and project their own behavior on to others, which is, of course, a lie in itself. Although some psychopaths do not bother with apologies, others say they’re sorry on a regular basis, and because they say this without feeling any shame, they can come across as sincere.

Psychopaths lie to make others feel sorry for them
All psychopaths know exactly how to elicit sympathy from their targets. They are exploiters, and so they take advantage of the natural desire most people have to help and nurture their fellow human beings. They use deception (and sometimes a smidgeon of truth) to create a plethora of fabricated ailments and problems. Common pity plays include fake illnesses and injuries, along with “crazy” exes, car accidents, and theft, to name just a few. Psychopaths generate as many pretend sob stories as needed in order to draw others into their hidden games, again and again and again. The ability they have to lie pathologically, easily, and confidently makes it possible for them to convince others that such an implausible number of tragedies is plausible, which unfortunately opens the door to a variety of manipulation and exploitation opportunities.
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Posted 16 September 2014 - 11:04 PM

View PostTomcat, on 16 September 2014 - 10:04 PM, said:

This is an accurate explanation of Rat/Dog Buttler and Tomo's tag team
As NOT being one NOT shown to tell lies MILERE then YOU Being the ONE who is FACTUALLY shown to be telling LIES Kenneth Miller VIA Police documentation Then maybe you should read about yourself sometime AND LEARN ABOUT YOUR CLEARLY SHOWN BY YOU, WITHIN EACH OF YOUR POSTINGS YOU MAKE ,AS TO YOUR OWN BEHAVIORAL CHARACTERISTICS
below is some reading for you re LIARS .
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Psychopaths lie in order to dominate others
Because relationships are games to them, and because they view other people as objects and feel completely justified in exploiting them, psychopaths know that deception creates an uneven playing field. Lying is integral to impression management and mirroring; the lies enable psychopaths to present false images of themselves to potential targets. Those targets lose the ability to make safe and appropriate decisions. They enter into the relationships, unaware of the danger in store for them. Then, once the targets are hooked, psychopaths continue to use lies, along with a sprinkling of truth, in a multitude of ways, to ensure that their targets keep “playing.” They lie to cover up cheating, alcoholism, drug use, and sometimes various illegal activities. They lie through evasion and by withholding information. They lie as a form of gaslighting, in order to increase their control over their targets by making them constantly question themselves. They often repeatedly tell the ultimate lie, that they “love” their targets. And, they lie just for the fun of it.

Psychopaths actually feel a form of pleasure when they lie
Unlike lies told out of fear or to hide shame, psychopathic lies are often told because they bring a shallow form of pleasure to the liar. This is called “Duper’s Delight.” This explains why psychopaths sometimes lie when it is completely unnecessary or when the truth would be more advantageous. Psychopaths also include a variety of details in their lies, not only because it makes their lies sound more credible, but also because they enjoy constructing a false reality and making others believe it. It feeds their need for power and provides them with sick entertainment.

Psychopaths lie effortlessly and are very convincing
Psychopaths experience pleasure from lying because they lack the normal range of human emotions. They are empty and bored, they lack empathy for others, and they do not feel shame or remorse. This emptiness also enables them to lie with minimal effort. They can look other people straight in the eye, without flinching, and lie quickly and guiltlessly, even when confronted with probing questions and evidence of previous deception. It is also easy for them to deny the lies, make up excuses, and project their own behavior on to others, which is, of course, a lie in itself. Although some psychopaths do not bother with apologies, others say they’re sorry on a regular basis, and because they say this without feeling any shame, they can come across as sincere.

Psychopaths lie to make others feel sorry for them
All psychopaths know exactly how to elicit sympathy from their targets. They are exploiters, and so they take advantage of the natural desire most people have to help and nurture their fellow human beings. They use deception (and sometimes a smidgeon of truth) to create a plethora of fabricated ailments and problems. Common pity plays include fake illnesses and injuries, along with “crazy” exes, car accidents, and theft, to name just a few. Psychopaths generate as many pretend sob stories as needed in order to draw others into their hidden games, again and again and again. The ability they have to lie pathologically, easily, and confidently makes it possible for them to convince others that such an implausible number of tragedies is plausible, which unfortunately opens the door to a variety of manipulation and exploitation opportunities.


Tis far better to man up and say ya told lies kenny than load this crap back at others as a defence to your insecurity of position here.
People think more of HONEST ONES than they do of outright LIARS kenny boy.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 03:16 AM

View PostDavid Butler, on 16 September 2014 - 11:04 PM, said:

Tis far better to man up and say ya told lies kenny than load this crap back at others as a defence to your insecurity of position here.

People think more of HONEST ONES than they do of outright LIARS kenny boy

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 10:03 AM

View PostBLURB, on 16 September 2014 - 08:16 PM, said:

I have better things to do Mini.

If he wants then that's his call.

Many members are happy with the outcome today so just sit back and watch Thomas and Butler sink deeper into the crap than what they already are. Members want their forum back without the attacks so allow the Police and Court to deal with it.

Have a great night.


So what happened today that was any different than yesterday?

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 09:01 PM

View PostMINI, on 17 September 2014 - 10:03 AM, said:

So what happened today that was any different than yesterday?
Same old same old ''TRUTH'' re Kenny Pussy boy y boy there Claire=KENNETH MILLER WAS / IS A LIAR / STILL IS ONE/ AND ''PUBLICY'' SHOWN UP AS A LIAR.
He don't appear to like that at all ClairePosted Image

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 10:13 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 16 May 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

Any defamation of character or other untruths posted in the public media and then changed certainly remains viable factual evidence for the purposes of prosecution. Anything that is typed in stays on record together with any subsequent changes. For example if one document posted on this site is all to 5 times there will be five different records of that document stored and accessible as exhibits in any proceedings together with the electronic fingerprints.


"I asked a friend of mine son to set this site up."

Will your friend's son stand in Court and say you have never been an admin and or moderator of ACCforum?

Is he also prepared to confirm that your allegations against Tomcat and Freefallnz hacking into the ACCforum and removing members personal data did in fact take place?

Would he submit to the Court all admin logs and other data to support your allegations Mr Thomas?

Would he allow IT specialists to look in the backend of this forum?
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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:35 PM

Magnacarta wrote on: 04 February 2013 - 09:17 AM

Alan, in your post 22 you are talking absolute nonsense. It was because of you, and you alone, that ACC forum members were denied an opportunity to have their issues posted on the forum raised at COGs. At the meeting with the CEO she invited ACC forum people at the meeting to be a member of COG and I was elected by those members to bring forth issues.

The blame rests entirely with you alone when you personally protested about me to Sue North at ACC. Your motives remain very suspect to all.

Further, I knew nothing of allegations made to the police against you. I also can't recall making any death threats on any post - I would be most surprised and disappointed with myself if they were.

In any event, I know nothing of any trustees of ACC forum and, because of you, and you alone, I now withdraw my good faith offer of admin/moderator.

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:38 PM

Post #22 written by Alan Thomas

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:53 PM
magnacarta, on 03 February 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:
I've just finished a long chat with admin. There is similar concerns to what many have.

I have said that in light of what is happening I am prepared to again be an admin/moderator.

However, if accepted, this would mean that any post containing abuse and actions contrary to the rules would be removed at my discretion - free speech is paramount but there are contraints.

For example, free speech in NZ does not give people a right to yell fire in a crowded theatre.

We'll see what happens.


Magna Carta you have proven yourself over and over again that you are not moderated material. I have just been looking back at the past postings which include death threats against me and far from step again with the mature voice of reason you have actually joined in with the cyber bullying. I also look back at a time when you took it upon yourself to elect yourself as the Forum spokesperson to the ACC. These types of behaviour patterns demonstrate a distinct lacking of what is necessary to moderate this site.

The only form of moderation that can possibly work on a site like this have total freedom of speech is the members themselves in their entirety. We all know right from wrong and we don't know when various members make postings beyond the bounds of right and wrong. The problem is very few, if any at all, a standing up against these cyber bullies. This includes you as well Magna Carta right up until the present. I'm sorry Magna Carta that you do not have what it takes as you are not made of the right stuff.

For you to be considered I would suggest that over a period of say 1 month you demonstrate yourself as being an appropriate person to be moderator by bringing to the attention of each person that the steps out of the bounds of the rules of the site the of their ways. In addition I would recommend everybody on the site do that. If everyone decided that would we ever need a moderator anyway.

We must be very careful of people who seek power and glory but who have never delivered the goods. This is particularly true Magna Carta when you were notified of the intention that there was going to be a false allegation made against me yet withheld that information from the police. If you can't even obey the basic principles of law how can you enforce the rules of this site?

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:48 PM

Indeed
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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:49 PM

Re: "This is particularly true Magna Carta when you were notified of the intention that there was going to be a false allegation made against me yet withheld that information from the police."

If that is true Mr Thomas, how do you know?

Were you with Douglas Weal when he sent all those unsolicited emails to selected members of this forum in an attempt to implicate us in your scam?
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Posted 18 September 2014 - 11:53 PM

View PostBLURB, on 18 September 2014 - 11:49 PM, said:

Re: "This is particularly true Magna Carta when you were notified of the intention that there was going to be a false allegation made against me yet withheld that information from the police."

If that is true Mr Thomas, how do you know?

Were you with Douglas Weal when he sent all those unsolicited emails to selected members of this forum in an attempt to implicate us in your scam?


You known the answer
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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:03 AM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 18 September 2014 - 11:53 PM, said:

You known the answer


Yes I do!

You were attempting to set-up the ACC for falsely having you arrested for the TBP crap.

Then you were going to prove your innocence in Court and hey presto, a big payout as well as much media attention for you.

Weal got Butler involved and Butler's first attempt with ACC didn't get no-where so conned Tomcat into doing the dirty work.

Your scam backfired as soon as you started it Mr Thomas.

No big payout from ACC etc, the wrong type of media attention, and another criminal conviction.

Was it worth it Alan Thomas?

This is post #12055
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Posted 19 September 2014 - 12:12 AM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 16 May 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

Any defamation of character or other untruths posted in the public media and then changed certainly remains viable factual evidence for the purposes of prosecution. Anything that is typed in stays on record together with any subsequent changes. For example if one document posted on this site is all to 5 times there will be five different records of that document stored and accessible as exhibits in any proceedings together with the electronic fingerprints.


"I asked a friend of mine son to set this site up."

Will your friend's son, A W, stand in Court and say you have never been an admin and or moderator of ACCforum?

Is he also prepared to confirm that your allegations against Tomcat and Freefallnz hacking into the ACCforum and removing members personal data did in fact take place?

Would he submit to the Court all admin logs and other data to support your allegations Mr Thomas?

Would he allow IT specialists to look in the backend of this forum?
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Posted 19 September 2014 - 09:29 AM

View PostBLURB, on 19 September 2014 - 12:12 AM, said:

"I asked a friend of mine son to set this site up."
CORRECT

Will your friend's son, A W, stand in Court and say you have never been an admin and or moderator of ACCforum?
NO

Is he also prepared to confirm that your allegations against Tomcat and Freefallnz hacking into the ACCforum and removing members personal data did in fact take place?
Under an oath of the Court that would be a deemed result Fran.

Would he submit to the Court all admin logs and other data to support your allegations Mr Thomas?
Under an order of the Courts via the Police then as he has said that would also deemed to be the result

Would he allow IT specialists to look in the backend of this forum?
NOT YOUR IT PI 'S Fran
WHO'D LET YOU NEAR ANYTHING CONTAINING CONFIDENTIAL INFO
In a situation of legal issues and properly carried out and at the request of the Law enforcement agency;s of NZ land THEN as the qualifications and work they carry out in similar issues then one would take this as, that the information supplied re that issue would be OF A HIGH ''professional'' standard and thus be taken as it was given .
If you have a civil issue -AS YOU DO -PROOF OF FACT IS YOUR OWN <[rather difficult for you eh franny]> PROBLEM TO PROVIDE So Then i'm afraid youd get sweet fuk all mate,Remember its no body's land in here Posted Image
Of which YOU ARE A NO ONE SPECIAL

Just saving ya a wordsmithing reply from ALan that means nothing here TRANNY boy
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Posted 19 September 2014 - 10:27 AM

View PostBLURB, on 19 September 2014 - 12:12 AM, said:

"I asked a friend of mine son to set this site up."

Will your friend's son, A W, stand in Court and say you have never been an admin and or moderator of ACCforum?

Is he also prepared to confirm that your allegations against Tomcat and Freefallnz hacking into the ACCforum and removing members personal data did in fact take place?

Would he submit to the Court all admin logs and other data to support your allegations Mr Thomas?

Would he allow IT specialists to look in the backend of this forum?


These questions have already been addressed in previous postings.

Essentially everything is subject to the authority of legal entities.

You are reminded they gain that the site is not a democracy and therefore there are no rights.
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Posted 19 September 2014 - 11:01 AM

See Franny boy
ya have the answers as wordsmithing from Alan

so above that post of his =there ARE the answers

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 02:20 PM

View PostDavid Butler, on 16 September 2014 - 11:04 PM, said:

Tis far better to man up and say ya told lies kenny than load this crap back at others as a defence to your insecurity of position here.
People think more of HONEST ONES than they do of outright LIARS kenny boy.

dave


Re: "People think more of HONEST ONES than they do of outright LIARS"

That's why many members and guests consider you and Alan Thomas are the "outright LIARS" here in this ACCforum Mr Butler!
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Posted 22 September 2014 - 02:59 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 19 September 2014 - 10:27 AM, said:

These questions have already been addressed in previous postings.

Essentially everything is subject to the authority of legal entities.

You are reminded they gain that the site is not a democracy and therefore there are no rights.


Who are 'they', as in "they gain that the site is not a democracy and therefore there are no rights."

Where can I get a copy of what 'they decided' and why weren't we told before we joined?

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Posted 22 September 2014 - 03:16 PM

opps "You are reminded they gain that the site is not a democracy and therefore there are no rights." Voice software error.

You are reminded again that the site is not a democracy and therefore there are no rights.

You don't need to be told that you have no rights on this site. The site just is what it is, like it or lump it.
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Posted 22 September 2014 - 03:28 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 22 September 2014 - 03:16 PM, said:

opps "You are reminded they gain that the site is not a democracy and therefore there are no rights." Voice software error.

You are reminded again that the site is not a democracy and therefore there are no rights.

You don't need to be told that you have no rights on this site. The site just is what it is, like it or lump it.

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