[BLURB]

Alan Thomas wrote: "I do not believe in manipulation such as How to Win Friends and Influence People, otherwise known as How to Abuse Friends and Manipulate People. I have been to all the leading seminar such as Dale Carnegie, Tom Hopkins, Bob Proctor as part of learning to do something different once I was injured. I spent many thousands of dollars on learning this type of stuff. The car salesman will be the first to tell you on your first day of work to get a person emotionally involved with the decision before they can have a chance to think logically. The techniques of manipulation are all much the same but it is demonstrated by the devotees of such techniques in ultimate desire to manipulate another human being for one is own desires."

http://accforum.org/...dpost__p__53424

[Alan Thomas]

Mini read then write.
That way you will not look so stupid.

[BLURB]

Alan Thomas, on 16 September 2014 - 10:05 AM, said:

Fran you are making trouble where it does not exist.

I have never said I never had admin access.
I said I never did any admin activity.

What part of this site do you think you own.
I own what I write.
Do you think you own more than what you write and have authority over more that what you write and if so what is it you think you own?

[Alan Thomas]

BLURB, on 16 September 2014 - 10:21 AM, said:

Alan Thomas wrote: "I do not believe in manipulation such as How to Win Friends and Influence People, otherwise known as How to Abuse Friends and Manipulate People. I have been to all the leading seminar such as Dale Carnegie, Tom Hopkins, Bob Proctor as part of learning to do something different once I was injured. I spent many thousands of dollars on learning this type of stuff. The car salesman will be the first to tell you on your first day of work to get a person emotionally involved with the decision before they can have a chance to think logically. The techniques of manipulation are all much the same but it is demonstrated by the devotees of such techniques in ultimate desire to manipulate another human being for one is own desires."

http://accforum.org/...dpost__p__53424

So Fran who got you emotionally involved with this thread? The Tagteam?

[David Butler]

MINI, on 16 September 2014 - 10:14 AM, said:

This is very interesting as it says by David Butler to Blurb: "Whats you bloody Problem its not your forum or your right to know, so fuk off and keep your nosey self out the running of it".
As it should ,with the rams applies to you ya nosey one,


Strange Alan Thomas says there is a group of trustees and he is one,
AND?

and recently he said everyone owns this site. (all members).
YOU DONT OWN THE SITE Claire

So if it is a trust with trustees
ARE YOU NAMED AS A TRUSTEE? or to be a beneficiary of a Trust Claire?

and we the members are the beneficeries,
WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT calorie YOU HAVE DOCUMENTS TO PROVIDE PROOF OF FACT=YOU HAVE A BENIFIT OF NOTHING.


then we DO have a right to know what is taking place in this forum and maybe even accprotection.com as well.
why ya dont OWN THE FERKEN SITE Claire

Where did you get the idea that we were not the owners/ beneficeries Mr Butler??
Your NOT otherwise youd be able to partake in the running of it Caloire\
And you CANT SO YOU OWN SWEET FUL ALL


Mr Thomas and netcoachnz appear to think that the members own it.
Believe what you will claire

Whey the discrepancies from those that are supposed to know?
Aint none as far as i concerned Calire

or are you just sprotting again,
Telling it as it is Calire
as you did to dermott Nottingham?
EXACTLY as i did in my chat to dermot about you nasty venomous dangerous bastards picking on vulnerable members Just again as i see ya been BUSTED for this morning ya BITCH.TIME for another wee chat with him me thinks.


Mini

YOU OWN NOTHING Claire
You have a site to use as you want
That is there and you own it as you type
Once you clik the button its the forums records
NOT YOURS.
SO PISS OFF AND STOP YA BLEATING
IF YA HADNT BENN SUSCH A DUMB BITCH THE CRAP YOU POST WOULDNT EVEN BE HERE
AND THE RESPONSES LIKE MINE=WHICH YOU DEFINITELY DONT OWN wouldn't be here either
YOUR THE AUTHOR OF YOUR OWHN MISFORTUNES
GET USED TIO IT AND TIDY UP YA NASTY libelous false defamatory nasty publishing's at others
Dave

[BLURB]

Alan Thomas wrote/posted on 25 October 2007 - 03:21 PM

Could the person who attended the review hearing with me the previous week please contact. ACC want to acquire information from me that you have not told me such as name and address. They are aware that those on the site post anonymous.

http://accforum.org/...dpost__p__54373

Yes that was me Alan as you were/are well aware of.

Mike Dunne was the reviewer.

Alan Thomas wrote/posted on 07 December 2007 - 04:24 PM

"Previously Blurb was awarded travel costs attending as one of my support persons."

http://accforum.org/...dpost__p__55800

I was the only support person Alan!

I have never received any petrol money/reimbursement for that long trip.

Do I keep on about that as you do when ACC/DRSL didn't reimburse you for kindly representing me at my last review?

No!

[BLURB]

Alan Thomas, on 16 September 2014 - 10:32 AM, said:

So Fran who got you emotionally involved with this thread? The Tagteam?

No, just the constant bullshit you and Butler are dribbling all the time Alan.

The Tagteam?

The only tagteam here is you and your resident trolls Alan.

[BLURB]

David Butler, on 16 September 2014 - 10:34 AM, said:

YOU OWN NOTHING Claire
You have a site to use as you want
That is there and you own it as you type
Once you clik the button its the forums records
NOT YOURS.
SO PISS OFF AND STOP YA BLEATING
IF YA HADNT BENN SUSCH A DUMB BITCH THE CRAP YOU POST WOULDNT EVEN BE HERE
AND THE RESPONSES LIKE MINE=WHICH YOU DEFINITELY DONT OWN wouldn't be here either
YOUR THE AUTHOR OF YOUR OWHN MISFORTUNES
GET USED TIO IT AND TIDY UP YA NASTY libelous false defamatory nasty publishing's at others
Dave

Yes, you certainly need a few sessions with the Anger Management counselor in Chevoit David!

Re: "AND THE RESPONSES LIKE MINE=WHICH YOU DEFINITELY DONT OWN wouldn't be here either
YOUR THE AUTHOR OF YOUR OWHN MISFORTUNES
GET USED TIO IT AND TIDY UP YA NASTY libelous false defamatory nasty publishing's at others"

It appears you have already removed most of your "YA NASTY libelous false defamatory nasty publishing's at others" just before or maybe during the time Alan was in Court last time round David.

[Alan Thomas]

BLURB, on 16 September 2014 - 10:48 AM, said:

No, just the constant bullshit you and Butler are dribbling all the time Alan.

The Tagteam?

The only tagteam here is you and your resident trolls Alan.

It seems to me that you have got rather emotionally attached to this thread. What is noticeable is that rather than providing kind help and assistance you are continuously aggressive with a focus on trying to find fault. When anything is ever answered fully and comprehensively so as to put to rest any of your concerns you immediately tried to create another contentious issue. This goes on year after year. Surely it is not a hobby but is it a job?

[MINI]

BLURB, on 16 September 2014 - 10:51 AM, said:

Yes, you certainly need a few sessions with the Anger Management counselor in Chevoit David!

Re: "AND THE RESPONSES LIKE MINE=WHICH YOU DEFINITELY DONT OWN wouldn't be here either
YOUR THE AUTHOR OF YOUR OWHN MISFORTUNES
GET USED TIO IT AND TIDY UP YA NASTY libelous false defamatory nasty publishing's at others"

It appears you have already removed most of your "YA NASTY libelous false defamatory nasty publishing's at others" just before or maybe during the time Alan was in Court last time round David.

This is true Blurb, they can delete their stuff but I can't delete mine.

Would you test and see if you can delete out of your argy Bargy thread that Alan Thomas created for you please?

Cheers
Mini

[MINI]

David Butler, on 16 September 2014 - 10:34 AM, said:

YOU OWN NOTHING Claire
You have a site to use as you want
That is there and you own it as you type
Once you clik the button its the forums records
NOT YOURS.
SO PISS OFF AND STOP YA BLEATING
IF YA HADNT BENN SUSCH A DUMB BITCH THE CRAP YOU POST WOULDNT EVEN BE HERE
AND THE RESPONSES LIKE MINE=WHICH YOU DEFINITELY DONT OWN wouldn't be here either
YOUR THE AUTHOR OF YOUR OWHN MISFORTUNES
GET USED TIO IT AND TIDY UP YA NASTY libelous false defamatory nasty publishing's at others
Dave

So you can delete and Thomas can delete and blurb can delete, but I can't. Now where is the fairness in that. And who registered Laudafinem in this Accforum on the 11/12/2011?? Who allowed it to happen. Or seeing as there is no admin or moderator, more to the point, who allowed it. Remembering at this time you were assisting Mr Thomas with his case, who would allow such a dumb thing to happen at a time when all personal information of the members was being give to Durmot Nottingham by yourself.

This site certainly needs a good audit.

Alan Thomas said he has had nothing to do with Laudafinem. So do you for that matter, but someone on here, has allowed them to be registered. who was it??? When we know that, then we will know who was involved in the conspiracy to have Blurb and I listed up on laudafinem, and all the rest of course, and no one will ever be able to say that ACCforum had nothing to do with LF.

Mini

Mini

[BLURB]

Alan Thomas wrote: "under no circumstances should anybody surrender all withdraw against those who attack. This type of the evil only prevails when good people do nothing. The most effective way of dealing with abuses on the site is to express I feel, like what you are doing now but it should be focused to be effective.

We should all be encouraged to express our opinions of various issues but there should be strong discouragement against personal attacks. These attackers are clearly identified by the name-calling."

http://accforum.org/...dpost__p__56439

Hmmmm David Butler fits into that category!

Strange that Alan Thomas hasn't posted anything like that directed at David Butler.

[BLURB]

Do you think Alan Thomas allowed DN to be admin (for a while until AW kicked him out after DN started attacking the W--lings?) in return for his help to clear his name Mini?

[Alan Thomas]

Mini we are not all equal. That is a socialist concept and you may have succumbed to the socialist propaganda that somehow It is only fair that everybody be born equal.

The reality is however that some people are born stupid and will be stupid all of their lives. These people tend to try and make up for it by becoming socialists so they can feel equal on the basis of fairness. They even try to go up the ranks within socialist structures which of course exist within bureaucracies. Getting a job as a bureaucrat provides these people with the opportunity to gain power over intelligent people and punish intelligent people for their success in order to bring them down so the stupid socialist now bureaucrat can feel more equal in the name of fairness. Sadly this is where stupid people get manipulated because there are always someone higher up the food chain within bureaucracies and socialist structures who needs to be people underneath them to make themselves more powerful. Of course this is the primary reason why the ACC scheme can only fail.

What I have noticed that bureaucrats tend to do is that every time they do not get their own way they invent something new to fight about and gain control by something other than what they originally set out to do. For example many people have come onto the site in order to address ACC issues but have not yet succeeded. In frustration and a desire to feel equal and gain some form of dignity in the way that they perceive life such as power equals dignity they then attack others in order to bring them down to make themselves feel better.

Welcome to the site where everybody is equal, stupid or not. This is where we help each other. We do not help each other to make each other feel equal but rather because helping each other is the right thing to do. This is a difficult concept for socialists who have become addicted to power and control because that is the only way they can think. This is the nature of propaganda.

I noticed that you would like to have an audit of the site. Perhaps you are trying to find something that you can seize on and gain power to make you feel better. I would suggest that instead of collaborating with the tagteam that you step into the light and focus your energies on helping one another and allowing others to help you in all humility.

[Alan Thomas]

Fran I have stood up to David Butler throughout 2006-2007-2008. Eventually be removed many hundreds of postings that he felt inappropriate. I have also encouraged you and others of the tagteam to do likewise.

[Alan Thomas]

BLURB, on 16 September 2014 - 11:21 AM, said:

Do you think Alan Thomas allowed DN to be admin (for a while until AW kicked him out after DN started attacking the W--lings?) in return for his help to clear his name Mini?

Here we go again with you start a conspiracy based on false information and with that conspiracy establish a factor in your mind upon which you build yet another conspiracy supported by further false assumptions in order to reach a conclusion. This can only be described as total insanity. If not insane then we would have to conclude that your behaviour is calculated and deliberate which of course is evil.

The much respected Google have a motto. "Do not be evil".
Ask yourselfif what you are doing is evil.

[BLURB]

Lets keep all your argy bargy crap in this thread David. You're upsetting the members again as you did last time using the monikers snoopy and harwired etc!

David Butler, on 16 September 2014 - 10:01 AM, said:

I HOPE THAT Nigel Cooke AND the Police do=JUST THAT Fran, and are aware of what as you state.
Again
what HAS THIS TO DO WITH YOU
NOTHING
HOW CAN YOU PROVE SLANDER [Actually its LIBEL-YOU ARE NOT THE legal one at all eh Franny? ] ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE WHEN YOU HAVE NO FACTS TO BACK UP YOUR WRITINGS
Your the one whos LIBELING OTHERS Fran
YOU REALLY ARE A THICK PRICK
So AGAIN WE HAVE =More of YOUR SHIT-STIRRING AGAINST thomas and myself to protect your OWN close involvement and for your close associates within the BOMB PLOT
BEING THE PERJURERS -Douglas WEAL and Kenneth Miller
Dave

Re: "what HAS THIS TO DO WITH YOU NOTHING"

Exactly Mr Butler, NOTHING, so why have you and Thomas and all your other scum mates been trying to convince everyone otherwise?

Oh that's right, you promised to "fuck me over" with your bullshit!

[BLURB]

Alan Thomas, on 16 September 2014 - 11:25 AM, said:

Fran I have stood up to David Butler throughout 2006-2007-2008. Eventually be removed many hundreds of postings that he felt inappropriate. I have also encouraged you and others of the tagteam to do likewise.

And allow yours and Butlers posts to stay?

Yeah right Thomas, I'm not an idiot as like Butler and you are!

[BLURB]

Alan Thomas, on 16 September 2014 - 10:58 AM, said:

It seems to me that you have got rather emotionally attached to this thread. What is noticeable is that rather than providing kind help and assistance you are continuously aggressive with a focus on trying to find fault. When anything is ever answered fully and comprehensively so as to put to rest any of your concerns you immediately tried to create another contentious issue. This goes on year after year. Surely it is not a hobby but is it a job?

[David Butler]

Alan Thomas, on 16 September 2014 - 11:25 AM, said:

Fran I have stood up to David Butler throughout 2006-2007-2008. Eventually be removed many hundreds of postings that he felt inappropriate. I have also encouraged you and others of the tagteam to do likewise.

YOU HAVE NOT Stood up to me thomas
YOU HAVE AVOIDED EVERY ISSUE LAID APON YOU re the fraud trial issues and also the TAKAPUNA BOMB PLOT
The postings weee removed when YOU TOLD ME that you had the idiots over at USA doing research and were writing a book about the Forum with YOU as the main theme of the book
SO I and others thought fuk you You want a book write the bloody thing ya self
Ya books failed as they have seen you as a criminal BOMBER and Fraudster so they well gone away from you Thomas and ya winding-the forum up again to get back what ya lost '
Ya can have it AGain now as you look ''ARE;; the GUITY ONE in all INSTANCES YOU HAVE BEEN CHARGED AND CONVICTED ON TO DATE.
YA FULLOF BULLSHIT AGAIN Thomas
YOU CANT EVEN STAND UP TO A COURT OF LAW LET ALONE ME
Dave