[David Butler]

MINI, on 11 May 2014 - 10:13 AM, said:

Some are better left with their gobs shut and as for Nottingham, he/they probably have no reason to be here since LF and accforum got the letters from there spaceproviders.

If they dont want to be done they would be best to keep their collective heads down. The paperwork, doesnt just grow legs and walk. It will keep to another day when it doesnt cost so much or I win Lotto or something.

Mini

You can have a go at me anytime you like you old slanderous hag
Aa like fran and his LIBELOUS >>>time wasting FALSE complaints [which are the subject of an inquiry at present by those he bullshitted a load of cobblers to] your letters are a waste a time.
dave

[BLURB]

David Butler, on 11 May 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

You can have a go at me anytime you like you old slanderous hag
Aa like fran and his LIBELOUS >>>time wasting FALSE complaints [which are the subject of an inquiry at present by those he bullshitted a load of cobblers to] your letters are a waste a time.
dave

We've been waiting for over two years now since you first started waffling on about taking legal action (for and on behalf of Alan Thomas) against us David Butler.

We're still waiting.

You're considered by many (members and visitors) to be a total dipstick, time waster, troll, abuser, stalker and intimidator etc here on this forum.

Have a great day doing what you're good at, and that's dreaming.

[MINI]

David Butler, on 11 May 2014 - 01:22 PM, said:

You can have a go at me anytime you like you old slanderous hag
Aa like fran and his LIBELOUS >>>time wasting FALSE complaints [which are the subject of an inquiry at present by those he bullshitted a load of cobblers to] your letters are a waste a time.
dave

Are they a waste of time eh?? Is that why whetu has a clamper put on him, as Netcoach nz says.?

is that why he also says that H8ACC is kibashed and so is the one with the tiddly bits and what has happened to Nottingham harrassing everyone and what has happened to poor old AT!!

The forum is a dam site better off without them. The bottom feeders that are left are nothingness.

Mini

[netcoachnz]

BLURB, on 11 May 2014 - 10:25 AM, said:

I'd be happy to have a cup of tea with you netcoachnz, in public at a cafe in Cambridge.

If I have managed to undertake any tractor driving work in the days before your arrival I shall have a little money so will be able to shout you lunch as well as a cuppa.

You can email me with the time and date you will be in Cambridge.

My email address can be found on this website: http://hire-me.co.nz/

Re: "There are sires about you Blurb that you have not discovered!"

Looking forward to reading your ebook netcoachnz.

Have a great day.

We will have to interview you over a cuppa to ensure accuracy of e book content.

[netcoachnz]

BLURB, on 11 May 2014 - 11:09 AM, said:

So, because you have never once publicly (or in the members only section) castigated gcsb, david butler and whetu for consistently breaking rules, being bullies, trolls and e thugs, does that mean you approve of their abusive, slanderous, and threatening etc posts?

Blurb, when you ask the 2700+ forum members this question then you may have the moral high-ground. No comment does not mean approval or disapproval of a posting. If gcsb,david butler or whetu break rules then it is a given that netcoachnz will use the *report post* feature.

[netcoachnz]

Rosey, on 11 May 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

And his other AKAs GCSB, Musturd, Rex...

netcoachnz is a separate entity than gcsb, mustard Rex erc

[Brucey]

netcoachnz, on 11 May 2014 - 04:07 PM, said:

netcoachnz is a separate entity than gcsb, mustard Rex erc

NETROACH you are THE ENTITY, THE INVISIBLE DEMON THAT TORMENTS WOMAN.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082334/

[BLURB]

netcoachnz, on 11 May 2014 - 04:05 PM, said:

Blurb, when you ask the 2700+ forum members this question then you may have the moral high-ground. No comment does not mean approval or disapproval of a posting. If gcsb,david butler or whetu break rules then it is a given that netcoachnz will use the *report post* feature.

You say you do that but do you actually do that netcoachnz?

But for a select few, who are not in anyway trolls, ethugs, bullies etc, and are actually being attacked by you and your resident troll mates (gscb, butler, whetu etc) you choose to use the public forum to make your disapproval (of the truth being posted) known!

That clearly indicates you are Alan Thomas's sockpuppet, much like David Butler tried to make Alan Thomas his sockpuppet at the same time Alan Thomas was trying it on him, and both failed big time!

Good luck.

[BLURB]

So again I say netcoachnz, because you have never once publicly (here or in the members only section of this forum) castigated gcsb, david butler and whetu etc for consistently breaking rules, being bullies, being abusive, being racialist, being cyber trolls, being the scum of the earth, and being the losers and e thugs they all are, that clearly shows us you totally approve of their abusive, slanderous, and threatening posts!

[BLURB]

netcoachnz, on 11 May 2014 - 03:54 PM, said:

We will have to interview you over a cuppa to ensure accuracy of e book content.

No worries.

[doppelganger]

Just to remind you all what Alan was doing

Alan Thomas, on 16 March 2007 - 01:36 PM, said:

A number of people have been making inquiries into my case given that the ACC had claimed my case is one of the top five cases of this type.

The case is very simple. ACC thought I was working in companies I owned that were managed. They relied on such information as my car was parked in the company car park without regard for the fact that I lived on the company premises in a sectioned off portion of the top floor of a high-rise building across the road from the Sheraton hotel.

These are highlights of the critical features only.

I was self-employed while at the same time being employed with Trigon Packaging Systems Ltd pre injury. Mechanical design engineer/project manager.

June 1989 strain injury go on ACC
December 1986 broken wrist while on ACC waiting for strain injury surgery.

ACC accept claim for both injuries and liability for ERC etc 1990

1990-ongoing Business interests continue without my being directly involved. I continue to seek meaningful involvement with residual capacity in accordance with S18 while incapacity for my pre injury continues S37.

1991 ACC advised that as I am permanently incapacitated with no possibility of returning to my pre injury occupation that should I become directly involved in my business interests and generate earnings they would not bother with the first 25% of my pre injury occupation earnings that would abate thereafter. (presumably under S60 as I was told they would not fund the reconstructive surgery nor provide occupational rehabilitation into a new occupation)

1991 ACC cancel claim (ERC and wrist surgery) after private investigator investigation.

1992 I win review hearings for both ERC and surgery.

1992 business interests continue and expand with by investing into my girlfriend's company while I think I had had the soft tissue reconstructive surgery and would return to my pre injury occupation after recovery.

1992 ACC instructs surgeon to perform wrong surgery without my knowledge. Surgery turns out to the ill-conceived nonconsensual experimental surgery that failed causing additional harm. ACC had instructed the surgeon to perform a salvage procedure that would guarantee no possibility of pre injury occupation and still would not provide vocational rehabilitation confirming the ongoing nature of a S60 decision without notifying me of the decision. The decision maker was John Orange one month prior to the well-known King versus ACC case. Making decisions in favour of the ACC but not notifying them hoping that the new Act would hide the decision. It was again confirmed that I was not to have any help from ACC for rehabilitation and would therefore self rehabilitate at my own cost rather than watch TV for the rest of my life.

1993 girlfriend's company expands and we move into commercial premises to live. ACC notified of my commercial interests and also fund a six-week business course as I did not have any management qualification or experience and thought that I might be able to utilize residual capacity in some other work activities while waiting for my recovery.

1993 hand turns purple requiring medical procedure to investigate the reason. During the procedure and medical accident causes a stroke and brain damage.

1994 My de facto wife and I went to China to meet her family and for her to enhance her business.

1994 I register a medical patent with a surgeon friend which resulted in an invitation to America (the Mayo Clinic) and Canada (an international surgeons conference) the Mayo Clinic suggested that given my wrist condition I would not be able to work with them on this project that suggested that I seek out a Chinese hospital to do this research for me and by the time that has been carried out my wrist might be better.

1995 ACC decide to provide an individual rehabilitation plan.

1995 My de facto wife now tired of waiting for me to recover and the lack of my contribution to her business (now second-biggest immigration consultancy in NZ and Chinese magazine) decides to leave me but as I had invested into her company and was a shareholder which had crippling overheads of which I was liable for, she couldn't take the company with her. I purchased her shares for one dollar and appointed the most senior consultant to manage the company.

1996 An ex ACC case manager who had also been an immigration consultant came to the company looking for me offering herself as the company manager. The ACC case manager and then current manager co managed the company but as I was not directly involved with the company activities it was unknown to me that they had set up separate companies and were embezzling both clients and funds. When they were discovered by the office manager they were dismissed. I was told that they would be a bloodbath and there was. The ACC private investigation now became more apparent. As I was incapacitated to address this management problem WINZ became involved in selecting a replacement manager. After a quick investigation he discovered gross dishonesty and carried out the dismissal and reconstruction.

1996 While this was going on ACC were playing their cards close to the chest pretending to provide an independent rehabilitation plan that a course like many others were in a. ACC agree that the surgery was wrong and further treatment is needed and as such cannot rehabilitate into a new occupation under S51. At the same time ACC are wishing that I take up a new occupation and I refuse wanting the prescribed surgery so I can return to my original occupation but reminded the ACC of all the various alternative activities I had been exploring (18 separate Iideas registered into companies to protect intellectual property in accordance with 1993 business course. A significant number of discussions took place regarding a variety of persons from the time of my injury whereby each material times the nature of discussion and intent would of course have been very different as the circumstances were changing ranging from being told I would return to work very shortly through to I would never work in my pre injury occupation again followed by I haven't actually receive the prescribed surgery which I won in the review hearing but when I do have that surgery I should be able to return to my pre injury occupation.

1996 I go to China in the hope that the project might get underway whereby my wrist would not be needed as I would only be giving verbal direction. While in China I also explore a number of other ideas & a provisional agreement in regards to an Internet project for when the peoples republic of china eventually have access to the Internet regarding artificial intelligence product database. The project remains on hold.

1996 ACC request I make a business plan of at least one of these ideas as part of my vocational rehabilitation. The idea I had in mind was 0800 0900 artificial intelligence employment consulting database in conjunction with the Internet as I had experience with the automation of information in the design of computer-controlled packaging machinery whereby I could utilise residual know-how. I funded perhaps $20,000 into the development of a software program whereby when complete I would possibly have a work capacity function with the assistance of voice software. I took on a business partner who had the necessary business experience, restraint and funding this company. In less than six months the company became profitable without my involvement and the partner abandoned me and my investment to set up a competing company.

1997 ACC informed of the first business plan failure then required I produce another business plan. This also involved an Internet-based artificial intelligence database involving product selection on an international level. The business plan was produced and presented to the ACC business consultant was followed by a thread of suspension if I don't produce a business plan even though it had already been delivered.

1997 being unable to suspend my entitlements the ACC then wanted me to be interviewed by their private investigator. The private investigator wanted me to answer yes or no to his questions which of course was an attempt confirm the Corporation's hypothesis that I was working and earning in my companies. Rather than answer yes and no I made reference to the information the ACC already had on file. The private investigator frustrated terminated the interview.

18 August 1997 the Corporation cancelled all entitlements and the claim (total declinature) under S73 on the basis that they alleged to possess information that I was working this can only mean that the Corporation believed I was no longer incapacitated and could return to my pre injury occupation relying upon S37A that does not have a clear decision-making criteria rather than alleging a capacity in a new occupation under S51.

I immediately asked to appeal and they said they were refused to give me the appeal forms as they discover they did not have any information that I was working after all and would I mind if my ERC continued and I would hold the private investigator interview again 20 October. I attended the interview and the private investigator started writing down answers to his own questions without my speaking. Of the information he did ask for and did receive there was no information inquiring into war describing work task activities at any material time. He asked questions regarding company ownership, shareholding directorship, signing lease agreements and other liabilities that company managers never under any circumstances would be required to sign. These activities of what I was engaged in were what is called it is read you to use of a director which is described as being exempt from ACC calculations, something of course the private investigator did not know of a mighty would not have relied upon that type of information. As the investigators notes could not be read I could not sign an it asked for a transcript which I would be in design if it contained what I said. I never received a copy until some years later.

At the end of October my entitlements stopped without a decision letter. I telephone inquiry I was informed that the August decision had been reinstated so they would provide me with a Review Hearing form which I submitted my application.

When my ERC stopped I immediately transferred to an invalids benefit as WINZ agreed that I had no capacity to work in any occupation more than 15 hours per week. WINZ had also provided the manager to the business I owned and was familiar with my circumstance. WINZ disagreed with the ACC who had disregarded the information given to them regarding interests over the years including right up to the present.

I received 4 days notice of the Review Hearing whereby the four days with the between Christmas and New Year preventing any possibility of legal counsel. Although I have requested the so-called "work" information at the material times that the ACC relied upon the Corporation refused to provide information claiming that they had protection of the information under the Privacy Act. The ACC failed to provide any information thus preventing the possibility of an appeal. The ACC did not go to the Review Hearing but provided the reviewer with a fraud file, asking the reviewer not to show it to me! I stated to the reviewer that of the ACC have not provided any work information for which they had based their decision on by default I must win. He agreed. So the adjourned but did not reconvene. In the meantime I was posted a statement from the landlord together with the lease agreement and two other unsigned statements produced by the private investigator was also did not provide any information about any work at any material time.

1998 the reviewer did not make a proper decision but simply decided not to overturn the ACC's decision based on the probability that the Corporation had made a proper decision given that there was a fraud investigation.

I submitted an appeal to the reviewers decision in the ACC asked the registrar of the district court to delay may appeal rights indefinitely because they did not want to release the information they claim to have describing work. The ACC then issued to search warrants looking for the information. They took away five boxes of information. One box went to the Crown counsel and the rest they retained for 18 months were upon to boxes were returned. A substantial number of documents describing what I was actually going remains with the ACC 10 years later which continues to be the cause of the delay to my appeal. The Corporation likewise have not yet described work task activity at any material time. The type of work task activity must demonstrate a capacity to return to my pre injury occupation. The ACC have also changed my pre injury job title from mechanical design engineer/project manager to Chief Executive/Managing Director. The change in time was quite odd as pre injury I employed a manager who I funded through an MBA to run my company and when I was with trigon of course they had their own management structure while I got on with the business of being a rock surgeon.

1998-present legal aid has been provided whereupon the ACC still has failed to release either my warrant seized property or the reason for believing I can work on my pre injury occupation or specify with due particularity any other work at any material time thus demonstrating an attempt should the onus upon myself to disprove a negative.

1997-present this case is now New Zealand's long-standing case waiting for appeal.

1999 the seven-week criminal trial resulted in a conviction on the basis that the ACC have made a decision that I do not have ACC entitlements and therefore to apply for entitlement using a medical certificate is fraud. In regards to sentencing I asked for a calculation to demonstrate the liability so the ACC asked Dr Monash to produce a medical report that stated I had tricked the doctors and surgeons into providing medical certificates and that I had a capacity to return to my pre injury occupation. Dr Monash was not provided with any medical information nor did he carry out a clinical examination. Dr Emrys was funded by myself to do a standard assessment as to determine my capacity to return to my pre injury occupation which included a thoroughgoing over of the specialist medical reports, medical certificates, his own clinical examination and an examination of loss of paperwork describing my pre injury occupation. His report clearly states that I cannot return to my pre injury occupation and that I have not yet had my surgery that will enable a return. He went on to say that hypothetically I could work 30 hours per week in some other light activity that did not compromise my injury. This means I would have to have a light job that did not involve my right-hand and did not overtaxed is my brain injury of which I could do while taking the maximum dose of an opiate. This gives the ACC the opportunity to rehabilitate me perhaps.

2007 A new lawyer has become involved in good on an application for legal aid which was declined on the basis that the case has no merit. The appeal to the Review Hearing is set down for 26 March 2007. If the ACC do not release the work task activity at the material times and did not return the warrant seized items and while it does not get legal aid while I would only be able to present my medical condition and then resign so as my new lawyer does not get an adjournment he will not continue.

13 March 2007 I received a letter from WINZ dated 26 March 2007 suspending my invalids benefit.

Even though I was already suffering from PTSD from the original injury and another type of PTSD, which I do not wish to discuss resulting from 2000-2001, my distress level is now considerably increased. Thanks to the numerous kind folks who are provided food packages, photocopy paper and various other support.

Apparently the ACC were attempting to develop, and may have successfully developed, an entirely different form of exit strategy. In my case if they thought I was working and earning, without a capacity to work and earn in a sustainable way in either my pre injury occupation or a new occupation, they would have been better to calculate an abatement of earnings. The Corporation have never sought reparation nor calculated payment of earnings which appears to be a little odd given that Michael Spraggon had promised that they were attempting to make such calculations 2003.

As they have no information of either work or earning I can understand why they have not made a calculation. That being the case why hadn't I had my claim reinstated.

All had to apply the legislation and since all of his was undertaken under the 1992 Act, Alan was using

18 RIGHT TO REHABILITATION
18 Every person who has suffered personal injury for which the person has cover under this Act is responsible for his or her own rehabilitation to the extent possible having regard to the person's condition and is entitled to the extent provided by this Act to rehabilitation necessary to enable the person to lead as normal a life as possible, having regard to the consequences of his or her personal injury.

and

64 RESPONSIBILITIES OF CLAIMANT
(1) Every person who claims for or is in receipt of any rehabilitation, compensation, grant, or allowance shall, when reasonably required to do so by the Corporation,—
(a) Give to the Corporation the prescribed certificate of a registered health professional as to such matters, and containing such information, as the Corporation requires:
( Furnish to the Corporation such other relevant information as the Corporation requires:
© Authorise the Corporation to obtain medical and other records which are or may be relevant to the claim:
(d) Undergo examination, at the expense of the Corporation, by an appropriate registered health professional specified by the Corporation for the purpose:
(e) Undergo assessment of impairment, disability, or handicap at the expense of the Corporation:
(f) Undergo assessment of present and likely capabilities for the purposes of rehabilitation at the expense of the Corporation:
(g) Take action by way of rehabilitation in order to endeavour to terminate or reduce the extent of any impairment, disability, or handicap.
(2) Every claimant under this Act and every person who is receiving or has received any payment or rehabilitation under this Act shall, whenever required by the Corporation, give to the Corporation a statement in writing, and, if the Corporation so requires, as a statutory declaration or in a form supplied by the Corporation, with respect to such matters relating to the person's entitlement or continuing entitlement to any payment or rehabilitation under this Act as the Corporation specifies.

One of the matter needed to be considered is "did the ACC go out to destroy the rehabilitation plans that showed an earnings higher than the ACC rehabilitation plans.

[Tomcat]

angryman, on 11 May 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

NETROACH you are THE ENTITY, THE INVISIBLE DEMON THAT TORMENTS WOMAN.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082334/

This explains its mindset better.../>

http://accforum.org/...120#entry183058

[netcoachnz]

angryman, on 11 May 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

NETROACH you are THE ENTITY, THE INVISIBLE DEMON THAT TORMENTS WOMAN.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082334/

You obviously have your problems, one of which is to believe what some of the woman folk write in their postings. Demon is a very wrong word. You angrymam are a dangerous entity within this fine forum,you are using e thuggerry tactics and have unethical and amoral behaviour.

[netcoachnz]

BLURB, on 11 May 2014 - 04:43 PM, said:

So again I say netcoachnz, because you have never once publicly (here or in the members only section of this forum) castigated gcsb, david butler and whetu etc for consistently breaking rules, being bullies, being abusive, being racialist, being cyber trolls, being the scum of the earth, and being the losers and e thugs they all are, that clearly shows us you totally approve of their abusive, slanderous, and threatening posts!

We have used *report post* everytime these folk break forum rules,we have even used the PM feature to tell them what I think of some of their posts. netcoachnz, does not approve any forum member who is abusive,slanderous or threatening in their postings. We are disappointed that you Blurb has not publically castigated Rosey,Jaffa,Tomcat,Angryman and Campy when they have abused,attacked,slandered and been totally obnoxious towards us?

Some would say that someone who owns and operates a hate and defaming website is scum of the earth and delights in using e thug tactics, bully boy philosophy and unethical and amoral behaviour;therefore the owner and operator of acc-claimants dot info must fit this criteria.

Many of your postings, Blurb border on being that of a cyberbully.

[David Butler]

BLURB, on 11 May 2014 - 01:46 PM, said:

We've been waiting for over two years now since you first started waffling on about taking legal action (for and on behalf of Alan Thomas) against us David Butler.

We're still waiting.

You're considered by many (members and visitors) to be a total dipstick, time waster, troll, abuser, stalker and intimidator etc here on this forum.

Have a great day doing what you're good at, and that's dreaming.

I couldnt give a hoot about what others think Franny

ThE documents lay you wide open
its ''ALL'' alans to use when he likes
as for you- read the post properly
not about no alan legal stuff mate
its about YOU-YOULL LEARN THE HARD WAY YOU CAN NOT PLAY BULLSHIT GAMES WITH THE POLICE>>>>as you have DONE ,clearly documented all down pat -
In respect to your false claim of being a genuine acc claimant and forum member i must refer you back to the start of your BULLSHITING attempt to achieve an acc claim of entitlement-Something you will NEVER ACHIEVE Fran-You had the best to assist you long ago -namely Warren who spent considerable time on your issues-even went to your doctors with you-didnt he now Fran?-What a fiasco of lies and hidden untruths from you that turned out to be=When he had taken all the issues into consideration-LIKE THE ACC-Warren DUMPED YOU as NOT HAVING A VALID CLAIM=
YOU admitted to working on computers 18 hours a day i think it was [ documented in your case files tho for confirmation of the exact times-]
YOU THEN proceeded to continue to falsely claim you were fully incapacitated for a long number of years YET you STILL to this day spend many hours a day on computer work and you claim you are unable to work and gain an income to support yourself-but show off driving heavy machinery and make out your working on those machines -[canterbury water schemes [-wrong place to make out there Franny] and still BLUDGE on the honest taxpayers of this good nation
You should be ashamed of yourself Fran
stop trying to bullshit the members [and winz] of this forum and also winz that you cant earn an income

have a nice day and thin on that one fran
i took my stance on alans acc case and altho abused by many for that stance-I was consistent / never changed my stance,that he was wrong from day one-lately shown to be correct-by the courts and you/your case history fall into that category-your full of lies and bullshit Fran so maybe now alan can not mislead and bullshit the forum and newbies to be thus taken for a ride to nowhere in acc land and in here ,on acc case procedural matters,i take another hard look at your issues and lay them open out here and show the members what a liar you really are re your so called incapacity
better still i might send the perusal results to winz for your file in there so they know exactly what sort of bludger you are and taken them for a ride as well seeming as acc dumped you as NOT / NEVER HAVING A TRUTHFUL VALID CLAIM
SEE YA Franny-pick on em all ya like fran
It hasnt worked as you planned,and IT wont work or make a difference to me

work awaits me dollars need my presence to pick up.



Dave

pp
I must concur with netcoach comments
Fran
YOU ARE THE BIGGEST CYBERBULLY -abuser and nasty bastard -Misuser of this forum in an attempt to get your own way THAT FREQUENTS THIS FORUM. since its inception -.Thats all ya achieved in here Fran-nothing of value re acc matters but shown to be as being a complete and utter abusive asshole,not withstanding Minis many nasty works towards members.

[MINI]

netcoachnz, on 11 May 2014 - 04:07 PM, said:

netcoachnz is a separate entity than gcsb, mustard Rex erc

How about whetu??

Netcoach is in the pigs mudbath if that is him!!

Mini

[MINI]

netcoachnz, on 11 May 2014 - 04:05 PM, said:

Blurb, when you ask the 2700+ forum members this question then you may have the moral high-ground. No comment does not mean approval or disapproval of a posting. If gcsb,david butler or whetu break rules then it is a given that netcoachnz will use the *report post* feature.

NCNZ

The 2700 members would all have to give their real identities before they had any moral high ground in here.

Mini

[Campy]

Several of netroach's posts display a morbid focus on words such as "orgasmic" and such.

angryman, on 11 May 2014 - 04:14 PM, said:

NETROACH you are THE ENTITY, THE INVISIBLE DEMON THAT TORMENTS WOMAN.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082334/

[Campy]

You shouldn't harass women with your sleazy posts about "orgasmic" and so on. We all know you have issues with women.

netcoachnz, on 12 May 2014 - 07:58 AM, said:

You obviously have your problems, one of which is to believe what some of the woman folk write in their postings. Demon is a very wrong word. You angrymam are a dangerous entity within this fine forum,you are using e thuggerry tactics and have unethical and amoral behaviour.

[Campy]

netcoachnz, on 11 May 2014 - 04:07 PM, said:

netcoachnz is a separate entity than gcsb, mustard Rex erc

whetu AT GCSB MusTURD Rex Netcrutch H8ACC each reveal the same misogynism.