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#1 User is offline   Hatikva 

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 11:39 AM

The following link is to a number of medical reports/documents re validity of various tests etc (Source Canada)

http://wcbcanada.com/resources.html
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 03:37 PM

Good afternoon all,

thanks Hatikva, still reading it but does this bit ring a bell with anyone here in NZ?

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The justice system is also weighted against the plaintiff. Once you get into the system, once you
come to see me, you are in for a very rough, lousy ride. Once the other side knows you are going
to sue or that you have a claim, you are going to be followed, you are going to be under
surveillance. People go to your neighbours, talk to them, insinuate things -- I'm not saying all
insurance companies, but a good many. Benefits will be denied by long-term disability carriers to
force you into the situation where you can't pay your rent, you can't feed your kids, your family life
is shot. It takes years to get through the system. It's getting better today, but it still takes years.
What happens is that a great many people end up settling their cases for peanuts compared to
what they should be, because they can't wait it out financially, emotionally. They just give up on
the system. The laws are clearly weighted against the plaintiff due to economics.


WHEW!!! and National want to fix ACC by going down this path.... YEAH RIGHT!!!!

Peace
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 03:48 PM

My weelady,

Have a look at these document links that Hatvika has posted.

For example... one is headed.....The Prognostic Value of Functional Capacity Evaluation in Patients with Chronic Low Back Pain - Study concludes that Functional Capacity Evaluations DO NOT correlate with the ability to return to work.

There are many more valuable resources as well.

Thank you Hattie.

Lori
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#4 User is offline   Hatikva 

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 04:32 PM

Extracted the Chronic Pain Document (One of the site listings unfortunately had the wrong document loaded ... to do with pain medication ...)

Oh well ...

This should put one to sleep when all else fails. The document was written in 1999 so is a bit out of date though ...

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#5 User is offline   Limoges 

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Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:09 AM

Hatikva,
Many thanks! What wonderful little gems you come up with from time to time! I am very soon going through the FCE........or not, as well as going to a 'funny farm doctor' on the pretence it is a Pain Assessment! My Dr. does not want me doing any of these exercises as they flare up my back problems so have had a letter written regarding same. If turning over in bed creates extreme and acute pain,bad enough to be taken by ambulance to hospital for emergency treatment (when I am already on a daily dose of morphine), imagine what these little numbers e.g. stepping up and down, max. lift between waist and chest height, pushing and pulling,repetitive squatting, will do! I do not want to end up in hospital again!
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Posted 02 March 2006 - 12:46 PM

Brilliant
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Posted 02 March 2006 - 01:06 PM

Limoges, your CM is putting you in endangerment and I hope notice is taken from the GP letter you have.
They cannot force you to do the FCE> This was endorsed by the Ombudsman.
You can refuse to do these things on the grounds of Medical advice and they would be fools to try.

It is just sick that they are making you return to NZ and undergo psych assessment. I sincerely hope that this person writes a letter stressing ACC are causing you harm.
There is a great Psychiatrist, anti ACC ,in CHCH. Would it be poss for you to see her???Can give you the name off board.
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Posted 02 March 2006 - 10:29 PM

Limoges

The letter you have from your doctor is sufficient for you to decline to take part in a Functional Capacity Evaluation and I would strongly recommend that you especially do not take part in a test conducted by any of the FCE Systems franchises - it is a charade, psuedo-science, as described by a number of experts in the fields of occupational health, pain management, orthopaedics, to name a few.

Such tests have absolutely no value in evaluating functional capacity or ability to work and in the words of one eminant specialist:The main purpose of such tests is to make a great deal of money for the operators and especially for the programme designer. The only safe method of evaluating function is to observe a person actually working over a protracted period of time, 8 hours/day, 40 hours/week for many weeks. Then, and only then, can there be a reasonable estimate of a person's capacity to work in that particular occupation and a change of occupation would require a further test.

One can see that there is little value in work trials of a couple of hours a day for 6 weeks that ACC attempts to foist onto claimants, that is probably only sufficient time for the claimant to satisfy him/herself that the job stinks, is valueless, has no future, is totally unsuitable by reason of education, training and experience.

In other words, a source of cheap labour for unscrupulous employers. It must never be forgotten that claimants have died while engaged in inappropriate work trials.
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Posted 04 March 2006 - 02:50 PM

Watcha and others,
The most ridiculous thing about all of these assessments I am being forced to have in NZ (remember ACC have already acknowledged that there is little expertise or knowledge of Flatback in NZ) is that the CM (to my Lawyer) and Paul Miller (to me) have finally stated that ACC are aware now that I cannot work fulltime. If it is proven that I can only work from home a few hours a week (which is all I could) ACC couldn't abate me anyway because I live in Australia according to a letter they wrote me before coming over here.. So I ask, why the hell are they spending taxpayers money on these assessments? It just doesn't make any sense!

And yes, I agree Watcha, a FCE couldn't possibly quantify whether one could work in an ongoing manner for x number of hours - the whole evaluation is rather ludicrous! One could only evaluate that by a long-term study of a claimant attempting to work. I know for I have tried (with the help of ongoing regular Physiotherapy) but have always eventually had to give up due to increased
pain problems.
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Posted 04 March 2006 - 04:57 PM

there could be a reply bringinf in this part of section 3 states minimising both the overall incidence of injury in the comunity, and the impact of the injury on the comunity (including economic, social, and personal copsts).

you could ask haow is this going to stop the oersonal cost in having to fly over to have assessments when there is going to be no rehabilitation.
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Posted 04 March 2006 - 08:20 PM

Good point about work trials. In a statement made to the court about me this was the gist.

Mrs XXX's capacity to work can only be verified by having someone with her 24 hours a day 7 days a week. The fact that she is in employment part time is actually a work trial in itself and has shown that her capacity to work is in the region of 10-12 hours per week.

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The reality is no 'assessment' that is other than real life can do that. JMHO
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