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Photo Identification ACC are demanding this

#1 Guest_NoRehab_*

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 02:09 PM

This letter received by a claimant.

Why does ACC require Photo ID????

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#2 User is offline   BillyBob 

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 02:30 PM

My uninformed opinion on this is that this could be in breach of our privacy.

I would be inclined to take some form of identification into acc and let them view it but not photo copy it and have a letter placed on file that ID has been viewed and is the said person

buggered if they are getting my photo to use as a dart board.

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#3 User is offline   twostickswalking 

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Posted 19 December 2003 - 08:53 PM

check out the privacy website

I am unsure of the Privacy Word Issue but they have the backdated copies on
file.

Mr Bruce Slane, the then Privacy Commissioner states that the use of D/L
ID is a breech of Privacy, because the D/L was not intended to be used as a
national ID. and that no organisation can demand that this be produced other
than the LTSA, and then it must be for a particular reason.

I think that the person that recieved that letter, should write to the
Privacy Commissioner at [email protected] , and make a formal
complaint about the use of D/L, as a form of ID.

Also if your files were lost, and your D/L was used as a identification, and
the ACC has asked for this, then this would be a breech of Privacy Principle 12
Unique Identifiers.

Perhaps someone should advise them. dont comply to the letter, if this is
what it states. check out the website and get the "Privacy Word" Issue.
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#4 User is offline   bruce 

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Posted 23 December 2003 - 07:53 PM

For audit purposes????
Audits are ACCs internal problem, nothing to do with the clients.
Arrogance and ignorance.

Nothing in any Act gives ACC any right or excuse to ask for photo IDs.
Suggest you send them a $50 invoice for consultation services when you tell them that. They have asked you to do something, you are entitled to charge for the time wasted in replying to that total arrogant nonsense.

Or if you want to stir the pot, take the "decision" (that ACC NOW REQUIRE client mugshots) to review and ask them if clients are now to be treated like the Beagle Boys, convicted crims with numbers accross their chests.
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Posted 23 December 2003 - 09:07 PM

Fingerprinting and DNA. are next and you wont be allowed to say no.
bloody nazi's

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Posted 24 December 2003 - 12:42 AM

Photo ID,,to ACC,,tell them on no uncertain terms to "Go To Hell" where
they all belong.
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Posted 24 December 2003 - 03:44 PM

Maybe im wrong but I would have thought that acc would have photo id of every claimant anyway because you are being filmed on every visit to the cm!
so to ask for your lisence and threaten suspension of erc to me is pure harassment
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Posted 24 December 2003 - 09:56 PM

Policy?
What the does Policy have to do with it?
Policy cannot over rule the LAW or, can it?
What does policy have to do with the act?
It seems to be used to get the client to comply or sue.
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#9 User is offline   BillyBob 

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Posted 25 December 2003 - 07:35 AM

Call me thick if you want but i cant see anywhere in the legislation mentioned that a photo ID is required.

This appears to be blatant harrassment or maybe they are after a photo to make it easier for their investigators to try and trump up some form of fraud against the claiment.

Whichever way it goes I would not give them the copy of the ID but take ID in to the office and make them sign a form saying the ID had been sighted and was the person concerned.
Buggered if i would let them copy it and would put a complaint in about the (in my opinion) nazi tactics being used.

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Posted 25 December 2003 - 08:43 AM

Yes a complaint will be the way to go, also it might be a good idea to try and get Mr Winston Peters on this issue, elections getting closer, he might be interested in this issue.
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Posted 25 December 2003 - 06:09 PM

Or Peter Brown.
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 09:27 AM

Yeah terror!

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#13 User is offline   greg 

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Posted 26 December 2003 - 10:42 AM

When I collected my files I was asked for ID. I supplied them with their
letter addressed to me, but they said it was not good enough.

If this form of ID. was good enough to get a licence, it should be ok.

I ended up giving them a credit card, silly me.

I went to the Hamilton office of NZ First, as they are opposite ACC. ,
but when I asked them to check out if the law had been changed about
Photo licences being used for ID. , remember this was brought in while
NZ First was in coalition, no more was said. :angry:

They took the gold when it was offered also.
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Posted 28 December 2003 - 09:34 PM


re: photo id. the previous privacy commissioner Bruce Slane wrote an
article about photo id in "Privacy Word" found on the Privacy website.

he stated that the D/L should not be used as a national id, it should only
be used for what it was intended for. i e Ltsa when stopped by police and
requested, otherwise this could be considered a breech of privacy. and most certainly if acc requests this information, then looses the file, it then could
or may be considered as a breech of privacy principle 11, &12 unique identifiers

you may wish to ask the Privacy Office themselves at [email protected]

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Posted 29 December 2003 - 08:37 PM

that is including there debt colecting agency.
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Posted 31 December 2003 - 10:14 PM

This is bulk harasement and get together and lay a complaint. read the Harassment Act 1997 and it show you that you can class this Act as harassment


3.Meaning of ``harassment''

(1)For the purposes of this Act, a person harasses another person if he or she engages in a pattern of behaviour that is directed against that other person, being a pattern of behaviour that includes doing any specified act to the other person on at least 2 separate occasions within a period of 12 months.

(2)To avoid any doubt,


(a)The specified acts required for the purposes of subsection (1) may be the same type of specified act on each separate occasion, or different types of specified acts:

(b)The specified acts need not be done to the same person on each separate occasion, as long as the pattern of behaviour is directed against the same person.
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#17 User is offline   doppelganger 

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Posted 31 December 2003 - 10:17 PM

this is not done by me so i can't do anything about it
The web site is http://www.legislation.govt.nz/browse_vw.a...et=pal_statutes
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#18 User is offline   roamy 

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Posted 02 April 2004 - 01:58 AM

http://www.accforum....p?showtopic=432 read this page folks, stumpy has done some research on the photo id issue and as far as i can see it is resolved, you don't have to hand over drivers licence.check it out.roamy
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#19 User is offline   flowers 

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Posted 02 April 2004 - 10:19 AM

Meanwhile, down on the farm.

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Posted 03 April 2004 - 10:59 PM

Hi IDB

Re: the advice posted from another site,

Quote: #2 request a copy of the case managers ID as proof that they are who they say they are.

ACC sanctioned the use of at least one false name, so how can we be sure that the ID issued by the ACC is in fact the real name of the holder of the ID?

In my opinion, some caseworkers can be intimidating. As ACC staff can use false names when dealing with us, is it possible for us to use false names in dealings with the ACC? :rolleyes: :)
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