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#1 User is offline   batman 

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Posted 20 December 2005 - 12:27 PM

I see the couple from the north Island that prayed for their kid but didn't get treatment got dragged through the court system well at least they prayed for their kid.
There are many claimants that haven't had treatment let alone in a timely fashion and have got worse well the system has set the presidence you can be held accountable if you don't give treatment now are the powers to be going to listen to claimants saying, "Hey, we're not getting treatment etc when we're entitled to it."
I wonder how a judge would feel if he smashed his flash car and the insurance company he was insured with did nothing
I bet you that he would be pretty annoyed and take that company on. So why is it that the judges in the ACC jurisdiction say things like when ACC hasn't done something, e.g: make comments like, "That's in the forgettable past." But when a claimant doesn't do something, they lose their money.
Come on, equality before the law.


Let's see what the police will do now about our complaints
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Posted 20 December 2005 - 12:51 PM

the facts are that even GP are only 30% right in most subjects give out wrong drugs kill poeple there parients ,Specialists don't come clean when they have made a mistake .
Some of them think they are gods ,
I was told by my specialist thAT HE HAD THE POWER TO TAKE OR GIVE LIFE .
what do you think of that .
These poor people that got dragged through the court system, even leaves the police at question and out justice system. they where loving, caring people with family values also mum and dad to 8 children that need them not this crap so the children suffer to
that is my feeling .
hope i haven't offended any one of our sufferers .
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Posted 21 December 2005 - 08:58 AM

I too feel extremely sorry for the northland family that lost their child.

I am extrenely relieved that common sense finally prevailed and the Judge discharged them without conviction.

I do not see that Justice has been done. The case should never have gone before the courts.

The powers that be percieved a "christian" couple as cultists and extremists and proceeded to hound, harass and prosecute them on the basis of that belief.

I'm sure that the cost to this family has been extreme but at least they will be able to celebrate a happy christmas as a family. I think the powers that be are lucky that in this case they will be forgiven their sins. (I wouldnt)

Thats the Basics of it.. Perception.. If youre a "fundalmental christian" mayhap even a "Brethren" you are perceived as a raving nutter. Similary if you are in receipt of ACC you are percieved as a bludger and a blight on society.
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Posted 21 December 2005 - 01:36 PM

Yes freefallnz I couldnt agree with you more ,regarding the northland family.

I bet this couple along with their eight children are now reeling from

the needless huge legal bill ,that now has to be paid.Feeding and clothing eight

children must be a horrendous task . Now they have Christmas .

I was talking to a plunket nurse, the other day ,she was commenting on

how popular the Plunket helpline is-Very underfunded but so very helpful

for young mothers.

If we are to avoid needless deaths of young babies and children,surely an

investment in 24 hour ,7 day a week free advice for worried parents

is worthwhile investment in the future of New Zealanders
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Posted 31 December 2005 - 06:06 PM

Judges in this sick little country are paid off by the likes of corperations such as ACC, so the individual hasnt a chance in hell of justice, and thats the truth of the matter.
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Posted 01 January 2006 - 08:21 AM

:wub: Inhuman Degrading treatment ... would ACC Whangarei like to comment on this regarding how I have been treated ?


:wacko: Would be rather embarrasing wouldn't it?

:D Have a great day...
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Posted 01 January 2006 - 09:31 AM

Would Whangarei ACC like to comment on the way I`ve been treated.

Would they also like to comment on all the bullshit they`ve added to my

file as well as the outright lies they have told about me ?-doubt it.!Thats a long

prision sentence that is .

Never fear truth always comes out and 2006 could just be the year .
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Posted 02 January 2006 - 09:31 PM

Am I right in thinking that we dont have the right to refuse surgery or other medical treatment for our injuries if ACC deem the treatment to be necessary? That ACC can stop ERC and cease other entitlements if a claimant declines recommended treatment, even if it is being declined because it is contrary to the claimants religious or spiritual beliefs?
If you feel that it is intrusive that the Law penalises parents who decline medical treatment on their childrens behalf, how do you feel about our inability to decline without penalty medical treatment which will affect only ourselves?
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Posted 02 January 2006 - 10:36 PM

the corporation has to take into account you beliefs in every decision that they make.

you are more likely to fight to get any approximate treatment that be accepted it

ACC is more than likely to offer something that is inapproximate or something that is working when it is not.
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Posted 03 January 2006 - 09:04 AM

:wub: I needed surgery for mechanical / structurely damage ... ACC Whangarei only wanted to believe a "Friendly Physio" of theirs that some magical little stretches 3 times ,pull some weights 1 time,ride a bike 3 times was appropiate treatment...

:D This got into an absolute screaming absurdity ...

Simple ... Asked for a copy of my files from the ACC Registered Treatment Provider in Whangarei ...

Treatment provider wrote back 24/2 stating my files had gone missing / presumably misplaced ... I was gutted ... went to my very helpful ACC Representive in the Whangarei ACC office about my files ... she kindly explained the treatment providers place is a big place and files going missing ... I asked how come it appears to be my files that go missing ...

Anyway ... Applied for review ... aprox 3 months later day before review recieved a pile of paper ... reading through something odd kept standing out ... MMMMMMMMM whats this small writting on top of the pages ... :D well bugger me it is a print out recording the time / date / number /no.of pages faxed ... OOOOOOOOOH bigger bugger it was from the treatment provider to my very helpful ACC Representive faxing my file on the 25/2 ...hold on thats the file that is gone missing / presumably misplaced that was faxed the very next day...

:wacko: I was gutted ... kicked in the nuts... had to struggle to pick myself up again ...

Little bit later on asked another very helpfull Whangarei ACC Representive for a copy of my file ... OOOOOOOOOH bigger bigger bugger here is a copy of the cover sheet for the fax that was sent by the Treatment provider to the Whangarei ACC Representive plus some other interesting yummies...


:blink: I reckon denied appropiate treatment for my injuries , denied a full copy of my file , denied assistance by ACC representive , being mislead , denied a fair go at review ... occured added costs , more undue stress harrasement ...

:wub: Has anyone at ACC Whangarei ever thought about doing the job properly the first time in a truthful manner , paying for appropiate medicial treatment instead of inappropiate token jesters and as advised ... "Having unlimited funds to fight bastards like you."
;) Sorry to upset your day ACC Whangarei ... I was born with love.
Have a great smiley day everyone ... The Year of The Claimant ...
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Posted 06 January 2006 - 09:53 PM

HI Doppleganger,
I only know that the case managers eyes lit up and she was really excited when it was suggested that sugery could cure my problem. The suggested op has about a 50/50 chance of success and can make the problem far worse. It is also disfiguring. No one ever thought to ask how I felt about having this operation and I definitely got the impression that my thoughts and feelings and beliefs were not an issue ACC would give any weight too. Luckily for me we were later informed that surgery wouldn't help in my case. Just as an aside - I most definitely didn't want the operation anyway.

As a discussion topic, has anyone ever been asked about their religious/spiritual/personal beliefs by ACC? How about at times when such things could be very relevant, such as when considering surgery or other treatment options?
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Posted 06 January 2006 - 11:58 PM

Claimant code of Rights,
Religious and Cultural beliefs have to be respected.
Ha ha??!!!
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Posted 14 April 2010 - 01:24 PM

:wub: Hi everyone ...



Whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooa same shit different day ...




;)
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