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#1 User is offline   fuckstain 

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 05:24 PM

:ph34r: Hi,

Just wondering if there is a list of Doctors that I can obtain on who
are the unbiased Docters and who are the ACC axemen.

The reason I ask is that I have been advised by ACC that they want me to see another
Neurologist (have seen three already for chemical poisoning).
If any of you out there that has had any dealings with Dr LJ (VIC) Du Plessis
Neurologist who works from Dunedin Public Hospital and also ISIS centre in Dunedin
or heard of anyone that has, your advice and opinions are greatly appreciated.

Many thanks
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Posted 17 November 2005 - 06:46 PM

Hi Sycotioad,

Welcometo the site

you have seen 3 specialist that the ACC has sent you too. who are these? some of the best people in NZ to deal with your injury are in Dunedin.

you are goint for another assessment. Can i ask what the assessment is for. The ACC nust be looking at something specific and with out that knowledge can not send you on the correct parth.

What area are you in and have you contacted a group if one is near you.
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Posted 17 November 2005 - 11:59 PM

Hi DG,

Thank you for your quick response. The reason that I once again have to see another Neurologist is that my health has taken a turn for the worse over the last twelve months with me losing feelings in different parts of my body. Nothing new really except for the length of time that the lose of feeling lasts for (3 -4 days at a time).

I have been on to ACC for the last three months requesting that I would like a full MRI scan to be carried out. This also has been strongly supported by my GP (who is also an ACC assessor). My GP recommended that I see a local Neurologist here in Invercargill which I am more than happy to see as I have had positive dealings with him in the past. However, ACC are trying to get me to see Dr LJ (VIC) Du Plessis
he is a Neurologist who works from Dunedin Public Hospital and also ISIS centre in Dunedin. My GP told me that this gut is a ACC axeman, that is why I am trying to find out from this forum if anybody has had any dealings with this Neurologist.

I am now getting too sick to be continually fighting with ACC so I dont really want to be sent to the the slaughter so to speak.

The Neurologists I have seen in the past in which I have found them to be impartial on their decisions are :- Dr Andrew E Macfie (Ingill) Dr W.A.M. Black (Nelson) Dr Hamish Godfrey (Dunedin) also Prof Bill Glass (Chch)

I am in southland and the only support group I belong to is SNFTAAS

Have you of anyone you know of dealth with Dr LJ (VIC) Du Plessis

Many thanks
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Posted 19 November 2005 - 02:25 PM

Du Plessis - yet another yarppie snuffling in the bottomless ACC trough. ACC touts him as a neurologist, as he does to those sent to him and while he may have some experience in the field in South Africa, he is not registered as a neurologist in NZ. He is registered to practice in NZ as a GP and has vocational registeration in Internal Medicine. I'm not sure where his allegiances lie.

Prof Bill Glass is not a neurologist, however, he is the recognised authority in the field of neurotoxicity and related conditions, highly respected and truly independent which is an anathema to ACC.

I'm afraid the Invercargill branch is staffed by trollops, you have my sympathy, be on your guard.
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Posted 19 November 2005 - 07:32 PM

Thanks Watcha

Anyone else dealt or heard of Du Plessis?

TIA
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Posted 14 December 2005 - 01:43 PM

watcha, on Nov 19 2005, 03:25 PM, said:

Du Plessis - yet another yarppie snuffling in the bottomless ACC trough. ACC touts him as a neurologist, as he does to those sent to him and while he may have some experience in the field in South Africa, he is not registered as a neurologist in NZ. He is registered to practice in NZ as a GP and has vocational registeration in Internal Medicine. I'm not sure where his allegiances lie.


This response was sent to me by my case manager when I questioned her regarding Dr Du Plesis credentials

" You have stated that Dr Du Plessis is not a registered Neurologist in New Zealand. Dr Vic Du Plessis has all the credentials and is registered under General Medicine, Dr Du Plessis is also registered to practice as a Neurologist - this can be confirmed with the CEO at Dunedin Public Hospital where he practices as a Neurologist."

So then .... what should I make of all this?

I have also been informed now that if I chose to see anyone other than Du Plessis I will have to bare the travel costs.
So much for freedom of choice aye....All I know is that I know who I wont be seeing anyway. They dont make it half obvious to you who their axemen are when you meet with your CM's.

No I havent met him (Du Plessis) but I would like to say
ACC >>> invested in Breweries
ACC >>> invested in Tobacco
ACC >>> invested in Neurology

Be Aware of this SA parasite
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Posted 14 December 2005 - 03:37 PM

You have been referred to a nuerologist by your GP.

You have the right to choose your service provider.

ACC have confirmed that will pay travel expenses to Dunedin to see their appointed expert and yet have declined to pay travel expenses to Dunedin to see your appointed expert.

That decision would look to be little bit silly, possibly niggardy when you take that decision through the review and court system.

You have your rights! Stick to them.

Go to the service provider you choose, who possibly knows your case and has dealt with you fairly in the past.
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Posted 14 December 2005 - 06:00 PM

Go to the one your GP want you to see, that way you have more chance to get your scan. Put in for travel, if it is denied then come back on the site and you will get the help you need for a review.
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Posted 15 December 2005 - 11:32 AM

Thank you for your posts -

This is how it currently stands -

GP has had a gutsfull of ACC, but in saying that he is also a ACC assessor
so he is caught between a rock and a hard place (so to speak). He has informed me that he does not want to get caught up in this exit stratagy that ACC are pushing for this time.

I have just recently seen my GP for advice on who I should see next as the proposed neurologist will no longer see me (thanks to intervention from ACC). He is no longer willing to get involved as he stated and that ACC will arrange the appointment for the neurologist - I know its bullshit that ACC seem to have the right to make appointments for specialists instead of my GP but what am I supposed to do? Change my GP?? There would be huge problems in finding someone else I believe that would want me as a patient.

So yes I am getting shafted from all directions now

Whats my next move???
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 04:34 PM

Registration Information for DU PLESSIS, Lodewicus Johannes
Name DU PLESSIS, Lodewicus Johannes
Qualifications MB BCh 1970 Witwatersrand, FCP (SA) 1977, FAFRM (RACP) 2006
District Dunedin
Scope of Practice Vocational, General
Dr Du Plessis is participating in an approved recertification programme relevant to the vocational scope of Rehabilitation Medicine, Internal Medicine.
Dr Du Plessis may work outside the stated vocational scope but must do so within a collegial relationship.
Practising Certificate From 1 December 2008 to 30 November 2009
Vocational Scopes Rehabilitation Medicine (15 May 2006)
Internal Medicine (2 April 2004)

Conditions None
General Scope 2 April 2004
Provisional Scope 4 April 2003

This means to work as a Neurologist he must be DIRECLY supervised by a qualified college. In other words he is not allowed to work unsupervised and his work is supposed to be veted and checked. I was examined by him and his report had so many glaring errors not just in his reporting of the visit but also in his description of my injuries and surgery. He even had the wrong vertebrae and his description of the position of my surgical scars was anatomically incrorect. He even examined me and wrote a report for the WRONG purpose. He wrote a report on ability to return to work and I was there for assessment for ability to drive a hand modified vehicle. I now am no longer allowed to drive because of the his errors in his report, and the consequent actions by ACC. I was assessed by the proffesional group that assess all spinal people for driving and they passed me with flying colours if I had a modified vehicle. ACC turned me down because of this tosser!!!!
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Posted 20 February 2009 - 05:24 PM

I understand numerous others have been affected by this man.
Is it possible for all those badly affected by DuPlesis bad decisions, lodge complaints to the Medical council , H&D Commisioner,ACC and whoever else. This man must go!!
Acc Sufferer, have you lodged a complaint and report of all you have told us on here??
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  Posted 30 March 2009 - 02:45 PM

View PostSparrow, on Feb 20 2009, 05:24 PM, said:

I understand numerous others have been affected by this man.
Is it possible for all those badly affected by DuPlesis bad decisions, lodge complaints to the Medical council , H&D Commisioner,ACC and whoever else. This man must go!!
Acc Sufferer, have you lodged a complaint and report of all you have told us on here??


He is very friendly while he assesses you then kills you in his reports. Does anyone know if he has been overrulled in any court jugements. Thanks
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Posted 30 March 2009 - 03:52 PM

du Plessis a.k.a. 2+3. The vocational scope of internal medicine includes that of neurology, therefore, he is a specialist under New Zealand registration requirements.

To add insult to injury, he lectures part-time at Otago Medical School so what the hell is the teaching our future doctors.

Will somebody please kneecap the bastard before he does any more damage, figuratively speaking, of course, not being one to advocate violence.

There is no doubt that he is the new Dr. Gluckman of the Judge Trapski investigation into the ACC in the late 80s and early 90s. By all accounts when compared to 2+3, Dr. Gluckman just managed to graduate from kindergarten.
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Posted 31 March 2009 - 10:33 PM

how many more of Sth African extraction do you know who have shafted
acc claimants.
It has been suggested that they all be shipped back home, first class on deck chairs in a submarine.
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Posted 17 May 2009 - 10:06 PM

go Huggy. You are like a dog with a bone.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 10:27 AM

what about Dr Glass? He is the expert and ACC registered.
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  Posted 18 May 2009 - 12:43 PM

what out for the retired german g.p.and acc hatchet man jorgen cort trap schousboe..hes in chch but will travel to exit a claimant..i have complained to the acc,h&d commissoner, medical council,and to a review officer but nothing was done and i believe hes still got his snout in the trough..a wee drive down the motorway to cut some someones entitlement would be sheer bliss for this peice of work.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 10:09 PM

Do an official information request thru Ombudsman into how much ACC are paying this guy.
Then go public with your answer.
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 12:39 AM

I8ACC, I hope your family member is going to complain complain!
Office of ACC complaints is a good place to start then forward copy to MP.These turkeys are getting away with this kind of stuff. Everyone must complain.

also find out what his gravy train fees are and tell all on here.

Time they were exposed. This is dreadful to tell a person with asbestosis that stuff!

My Mother fell and broke her hip and we called GP first. He wasnt available so Schousboe came and he misdiagnosed her fractured shoulder and hip and tried to get her to walk!!!!!
The ambulance officers were gobsmacked.yep we should have complained too! No ACC in those days...!
Good luck
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 09:32 AM

View PostNoDrsl, on May 19 2009, 07:49 AM, said:

Sparrow, A fair question to consider would be:

truly i dont see much changing whilst theres so much money at stake.


The Act says that you have to complain with in the system first but ACC will not change unless people go out side the ACC were ACC don't have control.
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