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Judge Trapski's Reply Commission of Enquiry

#1 User is offline   Limoges 

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 03:42 PM

This is the reply just received from Judge Peter Trapski.

" 5 October 2005

Dear .............

I was sad when I received your letter telling me of your problems with ACC. I have heard of a number of similar cases and it distresses me that the Corporation has - long ago - reverted to its old practises.

But to be quick in answering your specific questions, I am not able to conduct the enquiry you seek. First I am now 70 years of age and I am trying, unsuccessfully but nevertheless earnestly, to retire (again). I really have no fire in my belly to again become involved in what was a very distressing, but nevertheless very rewarding task. I had every sympathy for the people involved in my enquiry and that drove me, but I am much older now and I need to take time to smell the roses!

Secondly, I was commissioned by the ACC itself. The then Managing Director commissioned me to make my enquiry so that I had the authority and the financial backing of the Managing Director and the Board. It would have been impossible otherwise. I am convinced that is what is needed now. For anyone to come in from the outside and attempt to conduct a meaningful enquiry would be futile. They would be blocked or stymied on every front.

So what is the solution?

I think that your group, and everyone else who has an interest in the matter, and there are plenty, should petition the Minister in Charge of the ACC and perhaps the Prime Minister, and if that is not successful then petition Parliament itself, to instigate an inquiry. That could be particularly powerful within the close policitical climate that now exists in this country.

So there is my suggestion.

I wish you well as I believe that some action is well overdue.

Best wishes,


J.Peter Trapski "

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 04:21 PM

Judge Trapski hit it right on the button, he might be getting on in years but the grey matter is still grey.

We are up against a formidable foe, look what happened to the Judge's report - filed away and not acted on. Also bear in mind the outcome of the Auditor General's report - another whitewash by virtue of the shallow depth of his inquiry. Minor tweaking indeed!!

Not forgetting CEO Wilson's spin on "successful rehabilitation" for thousands of claimants. Yeah, right!!
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#3 User is offline   MG 

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 04:27 PM

IMHO, Judge Trapski is a fine human being who performed many valuable services for the people of this country. His ACC inquiry was only one of them. It is to the everlasting shame of our political and bureaucratic classes that they buried his report and refused to implement his recommendations. ACC has not changed one iota since Trapski wrote his report - if anything, it has got worse. The toll of human suffering inflicted by this organisation on injured citizens is appalling and my dearest wish to see those responsible for this state of affairs to be held properly to account for their actions.
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Posted 11 October 2005 - 04:35 PM

Well done Limoges, what excellent and authoritative confirmation of what we have all be saying for some years.

His Honour's reply is not confidential and needs to published as widely as possible - to politicians, to Ombudsmen, to the Auditor-General, to the present Chief District Court Judge etc etc.

And please don't forget to email a copy to the NZ Law Society who supported our original petition for an inquiry into ACC and also send it to all ACC lawyers.

Judge Peter Trapski is a very well respected former Chief District Court Judge who conducted the original 1980's to 1994 inquiry into ACC and produced a 130 page report.

His Honour's most recent comments are both telling and must be concerning to everyone in authority in New Zealand

With this supportive commentary, it is now up to all of us to take it further.
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#5 User is offline   Limoges 

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 06:06 PM

Don't worry, The Ombudsman was the first person I sent a copy of Judge Trapski's 'telling' letter to, followed very shortly after to Judge Borrin of The Police Complaints Authority! How pleased I was to receive this letter. Yes, will send it too to The NZ Law Society.

Doesn't this just show that someone who is known to all to be a very fair human being with a lot of standing in society has shown that he also believes there are untoward things happening at ACC from what he has been hearing, obviously for some time now. Why is it that all those closely connected to ACC will not take on board the rogue goings on of ACC and furthermore do something about it?
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Posted 11 October 2005 - 06:25 PM

Up until now, I've had a really sh**ty day. Then I found this thread on the forum.

Reading what His Honour Judge Peter Trapski wrote - makes it worth while to continue the fight -

Perhaps we are getting to what is termed critical mass - at which point things begin to happen ... Judge Trapski's letter speaks volumes.

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 10:33 PM

The Trapski Report - Executive Summary

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#8 User is offline   magnacarta 

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 06:26 AM

Judge Trapski wrote ".....it distresses me that the Corporation has - long ago - reverted to its old practises"

How come Judge Trapski can see that and yet our Accident Appeal Court Judges cannot????

The Judges have certainly been made aware of ACC's adverse conduct in submissions but no findings are made in decisions.

And how come most of our politicians cannot see that when the petition was presented last year and hundreds of people have also written to them??????

I smell corruption - or, at the very least, bias.

That, by itself, needs an inquiry.
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#9 User is offline   magnacarta 

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 08:53 AM

When you forward "Judge Trapski's Reply" letter to other people please state that this is a transcript of the original letter which is posted on the accforum.org website and that the original signed and dated letter is held in secure custody.

The reason for this is that the ACC Minister's office was apparently quite nasty to a claimant this morning when the transcript was sent. The office worker also apparently said "It's not signed so what credibility does it have."

Can you believe that?????? Yep, I can - it's called damage control.
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Posted 12 October 2005 - 11:05 AM

it must be about now when the rats leave the sinking ship.i think some people love to see their name in lights well wilson and co it may be the lights of the new zealand court system that you see.wilson and co your names will be on the front page of each news paper with the word guilty beside it. : :(
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#11 User is offline   magnacarta 

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 01:55 PM

I can advise that Judge Peter Trapski has confirmed by telephone that he has no objections to his letter in reply to a claimant quoted above being distributed and made public.
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Posted 12 October 2005 - 05:17 PM

Bunch of red roses to you Judge
Trapski! Great stuff and thanks a million!!!
What a report, and all in it is still being practised today and worse.
In view of this, Wilson's great self praise in the Herald looks even more spurious!!

Looks as tho we petition Parliament and ask for a Royal commisision with wide ranging powers, while there is a caretaker ACC minister and Clark struggling to get a govt together.
How do we go about it?? :(
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Posted 12 October 2005 - 05:25 PM

:wub: :wub: :wub:

Red roses to you too Limoges...
Go Girl ;)

Kiwiwine B)
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Posted 12 October 2005 - 07:34 PM

Thank you Judge Trapski! You are indeed a gentleman! Bless you :wub: :wub:
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Posted 12 October 2005 - 08:20 PM

The full Trapski report of 1994.

Read the report in its entirety then reflect on the ACC Corporations acts of deceit since.

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 09:15 PM

I remember reading this for the first time several years ago now and being utterly amazed that such a damning report could be simply ignored. I am now now longer naive and shake my head at the arrogance of ACC and the government both then and since. What a sorry reflection on our society. For those of you who haven't read it, read it and weep...........
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Posted 13 October 2005 - 11:47 PM

Just read the report and I'm weeping. Do you think his report and his recent letter should be included with the letters to party leaders that Chrissie and co are working on?
Alternatively, if government aren't interested in the fact that nothing has changed since this 1994 report, maybe the press would be more interested in receiving a copy?
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Posted 13 October 2005 - 11:50 PM

Judge Trapski's comment about his report being commissioned by ACC (and then, as we know, ignored) is the same tactic they use of asking for specialist assessments and then ignoring them if they dont support ACC. Surprised they didn't shop around for another judge who would give them the glowing report they obviously wanted!
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 12:17 AM

Congrats on getting such a worthwhile response but I was just wondering why you copied Judge Trapskis response to the Police Complaints Authority, maybe I'm missing something but seems like a bit of leap to me.
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Posted 16 October 2005 - 04:36 AM

If you scroll back you will see his Reply is to Limogues in response to a letter that was sent to him. Police CA is not at all involved here with this reply. Just one very brave person having the guts to speak out!!!!
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