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#101 User is offline   Campy 

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 10:45 PM

COPD mortality elevated in Vietnam veterans exposed to herbicides
By Mark Cowen

28 April 2010
Ann Epidemiol 2010; 20: 339–346

MedWire News: Results from a US study show that mortality due to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) and other respiratory conditions is significantly elevated among Vietnam veterans from the Army Chemical Corps (ACC).

“The members of the ACC were responsible for handling and spraying herbicides around the perimeters of military base camps in Vietnam. They may constitute the largest cohort of Vietnam-era veterans… who were directly exposed to Agent Orange,” explain Yasmin Cypel (Department of Veterans Affairs, Washington, DC) and colleagues.

The researchers studied data on 2872 ACC veterans who served in Vietnam between 1965 and 1973, and 2737 military veterans who did not serve in South East Asia during the same period.

By 2005, 593 of the Vietnam veterans and 355 of the non-Vietnam veterans had died.

After accounting for smoking and other factors, the researchers found that the risk for excess mortality due to COPD was significantly higher among Vietnam veterans than non-Vietnam veterans, at an adjusted relative risk of 4.82.

Among the Vietnam veterans, those who had been herbicide sprayers (n=662) had non-significant increased risks for all-cause, non-malignant respiratory disease, and respiratory cancer mortality compared with those who had not been herbicide sprayers (n=811).

The researchers also found that, compared with men of similar age in the US population, the Vietnam veterans had significant excess mortality due to all-causes (standardized mortality ratio [SMR]=1.13), respiratory cancers (SMR=1.35), nonmalignant respiratory diseases (SMR=1.58), and other cancers (SMR=1.77).

Cypel and team conclude in the Annals of Epidemiology: “ACC Vietnam veterans who were occupationally exposed to herbicides experienced a significant excess in mortality from diseases of the respiratory system (COPD) in comparison with their non-Vietnam veteran peers, and all causes, respiratory cancer, miscellaneous cancers, and nonmalignant respiratory disease as compared with US males.”

They add: “Our findings are consistent with the results from several studies of workers who were occupationally exposed to herbicides and dioxin.”

MedWire (www.medwire-news.md) is an independent clinical news service provided by Current Medicine Group, a trading division of Springer Healthcare Limited. © Springer Healthcare Ltd; 2010
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View PostCamp Mother, on Jun 5 2010, 03:43 PM, said:

For anyone who hasn't already seen this: http://www.corporatecrimeofthecentury.com/...age/1942123.htm

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 11:14 AM

And they say there is no Rasism in this country!!! Like Right???

Well I never encountered any when I grew up, however, it looks like a whole new age now. And it can all be cured with tons of money shoved at it!! Like also Right???
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 12:15 AM

View Postfairgo, on Jan 22 2009, 08:22 PM, said:

The fact that rigorous testing of these mens DNA has shown alterations in itself should be enough to show they have a case for compensation. Good on these guys for keeping on fighting. God knows they have been to hell and back.

Good on these guys for trying. Its toxic stuff but we're not getting help. Thanks for the information people.
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Posted 07 June 2010 - 12:45 AM

View PostMoe, on Jun 7 2010, 12:15 AM, said:

Good on these guys for trying. Its toxic stuff but we're not getting help. Thanks for the information people.

You could try to get hold of a DVD by Donald Sarten (Google may be a start). Also search for the info on a man named Pete Kiley who had a problem with ACC over chemical poisoning near his camp.
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 12:21 PM

NB: Manu Bennet has joined with ex-Mill workers and Nam vets to push for recognition of their dioxin poisoning.


Ex-mill staff win recognition of toxic past
By Simon Collins

4:00 AM Thursday Jun 10, 2010

Kereama Akuhata (right), with Joe Harawira, says problems diagnosing his illness have been misread as reluctance to work. Photo / Mark Mitchell

To look at, Kereama Akuhata seems perfectly healthy.

At 52 he is still built like the prop that he was when he captained the Horowhenua rugby team in its glory days at the top of the third division almost 20 years ago.

Inside that healthy exterior it's a different story.

Mr Akuhata is one of about 200 former sawmill workers who have developed chronic illnesses caused by chemicals inhaled when they worked for the old Whakatane Board Mills before they closed in 1988.

He is also one of only a handful of welfare beneficiaries attending a two-day forum called by the Government's Welfare Working Group on how to get long-term beneficiaries like him back to work.

He worked as a meatworker at Otaki after the board mills closed and, like most of the sawmill workers, was extremely fit. He trialled for the All Blacks in 1991 and 1993. Then his health packed up inexplicably.

"I suffer from chronic pain, depression, mood swings," he said.
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He went on to accident compensation, then was bumped off to a sickness benefit because doctors couldn't work out what was wrong with him.

"I'm not saying all doctors don't know anything about chemicals, but when you go to Work and Income you get sent to their doctor so they are trying to get you back to work," he said.

"You got judged by doctors ... [and] by the frontline case managers."

Finally in 2002 he was diagnosed with a bone disease which is gradually fusing his spine and causing his depression and mood swings.

By then he had moved home to Whakatane and was coaching rugby, but again had to give it up.

"When I finally got to do the job [coaching] I found it hard - I got depressed easily, a lot of anxiety, irrational thoughts, left my partner and family and all that, it was not a very nice time," he said.

He had to quit coaching and has devoted the past few years to his role chairing the sawmill workers' lobby group Sawmill Workers Against Poisons.

With the help of Massey University researchers who documented their medical conditions, they have finally won Government recognition of the damage caused by the sawmilling chemicals.

Ministry of Health officials are due in Whakatane on June 23 to announce a compensation package which may include free access to all health services.

But Mr Akuhata said long-term welfare beneficiaries like himself still faced public disapproval.

"I think we have to change attitudes," he said. "Know me before you judge me.

"A lot of our blokes have been treated like they don't want to work because people don't know what their symptoms are. The doctors say, 'Stop drinking beer,' or 'Stop eating.'

"What we ask is: treat us with respect and treat us knowingly - you know our history and the things that are so insidious that impact on our lives and our children's lives."
By Simon Collins | Email Simon
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Posted 10 June 2010 - 01:28 PM

Still on WINZ yet they know he was chemically poisoned at the board mill. Shame on ACC and WINZ - this is a clear-cut case of an injured worker being bumped to WINZ. Yet even tho' this is in the Herald the political dogs can't straighten out even this one case of ACC kicking someone off unjustifiably.
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Posted 23 June 2010 - 05:50 PM


Former sawmill workers angry at ministry offer

Updated at 5:15pm on 23 June 2010

Former sawmill workers exposed to the dioxin PCP have been told they can have a free annual health check but the Ministry of Health says it can't justify funding tests to determine damage to DNA.

Anger and frustration were expressed by some people when the announcement was made at a meeting in Whakatane on Wednesday attended by about 200 people.

At the meeting, the ministry released a report containing the recommendations of consultants Allen and Clarke, who have proposed a special support service for those exposed to PCP, a timber preservative, when they worked at Whakatane Board Mills between the 1950s and the 1980s.

The service will include educating doctors and patients about specific symptoms, and give access to various health and social services. The ministry will also fund discussions about the possibility of research into the potential impacts of PCP on spouses, children and grandchildren.

But it says there isn't sufficient justification to pay for serum dioxin tests or tests of DNA damage.
'Nothing in it' for workers' families

Matia Kohe, who started work at the mills in 1977, says it has taken too long for the Government to come up with not very much, against a backdrop of scientific evidence about dioxins.

And Charrise Hawkins, daughter of a former sawmill worker, says that she and her sisters have suffered from infertifility, skin rashes and depression, and that there's nothing in the announcement for the families of workers.

The campaign group Sawmill Workers Against Poisons, which has been fighting for recognition of workers' health problems for nearly 30 years, says the health check is a step in the right direction.

Many of those affected developed chronic injuries after inhaling PCP and many have paid for expensive blood tests to prove the severity of their exposure.

The ministry's environmental and border health protection manager, Sally Gilbert, acknowledges that there is a lot of concern among the former workers about the effects of PCP on their families.

The workers rejected an initial compensation package offer earlier this year.

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View Postscared, on Jun 10 2010, 01:28 PM, said:

Still on WINZ yet they know he was chemically poisoned at the board mill. Shame on ACC and WINZ - this is a clear-cut case of an injured worker being bumped to WINZ. Yet even tho' this is in the Herald the political dogs can't straighten out even this one case of ACC kicking someone off unjustifiably.

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 09:26 PM

Press Release: Ministry of Health

Ministry of Health to Offer Support Service for Former Sawmill Workers Exposed to PCP

Today the Ministry of Health released a report on a proposed special support service for former sawmill workers who were exposed to pentachlorophenol (PCP), a timber preservative used in the 1950s to 1980s.

Ministry of Health Environmental and Border Health Protection Manager Sally Gilbert says the report’s authors Allen & Clarke sought the views of former sawmill workers and their families, Sawmill Workers Against Poisons (SWAP), potential health service providers, and a technical group consisting of epidemiologists, toxicologists, and public health specialists.

“The Ministry of Health has accepted Allen & Clarke’s recommendations and intends to establish a special support service for former sawmill workers exposed to PCP in line with those recommendations,” Sally Gilbert said.

The special support service will include: •    Information and advice for doctors, other health practitioners, and patients about historical exposure to PCP and subsequent health risks; •    A free annual health check provided by a doctor; •    Access to health promotion initiatives, like programmes to reduce cancer risk; •    Counselling and other primary mental health services; •    A service to help people access other social services that they are entitled to; and


The Ministry of Health also intends to fund researchers (including epidemiologists and toxicologists), in consultation with Sawmill Workers Against Poisons, to discuss and if possible develop a research methodology on the question of impacts of PCP on spouses and/or the children and grandchildren of sawmill workers. If a robust research methodology can be developed, a proposal for funding could then be advanced via the usual research funding processes that are available in New Zealand.

“The recommendations balance what we know about historical exposure to PCP and health risk with former sawmill workers’ concerns about their exposure. They also reflect submitters’ concerns about the lack of information available to health practitioners and individuals about PCP exposure.

“Eligibility for the service will be on the basis that an individual worked in a place at a time when exposure is likely to have occurred. The report recommends that people should be eligible for a special support service if they: •    worked in a sawmill where PCP was used; AND •    worked in jobs that used PCP chemicals or if they came into contact with PCP baths/tanks or if they worked with timber that was still wet from the PCP treatment process; AND •    worked in these jobs for at least one year; AND •    are eligible to use publicly funded health services in New Zealand (eg, New Zealand citizens).


“At this stage, there is not sufficient justification for funding serum dioxin tests or other tests to determine damage to DNA. Serum dioxin tests may tell you that an individual has been exposed but that’s all it tells you. There is also no strong evidence to suggest that PCP causes genetic damage. We also know that former sawmill workers have been exposed to PCP so doing more tests is not going to help people get well.”

The report does not support former sawmill workers getting faster access to treatment services than other New Zealanders who might have the same needs.

“We believe it is only fair that all New Zealanders who develop a health condition receive treatment on the basis of clinical need, not why they became sick. Any treatments provided to people must also be safe, of high quality, and effective”.

The Ministry, and Allen & Clarke, would like to thank all of those who have provided information and recommendations as it has assisted us in developing the most appropriate service to support those sawmill workers who have been exposed to PCP.

“We hope the services will be available by the end of the year. Further information is available on the Ministry’s website at www.mohgovt.nz/dioxins or by calling 0800 288 588”, Sally said.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 08:06 PM

Ministry 'underestimating' toxic chemical issue

Updated at 10:04am on 24 June 2010

The union representing sawmill workers says the Ministry of Health may be underestimating the number of people who need help from exposure to a carcinogenic chemical used to treat timber.

A package offered on Wednesday people exposed to PCPs when they worked at Whakatane Board Mills between the 1950s and 1980s includes a free annual health check, access to a dioxin helpline, a website and pamphlets.

The Health Ministry estimates that between 4000 and 8000 people may come forward to take up the checks, but the National Distribution Union says it could be many more, because PCP is only just being acknowledged as a problem.

The ministry says it will fund discussions about the possibility of research into the potential impacts of PCP on spouses, children and grandchildren.

Former sawmill worker Kereama Akuhara, who has a rare and incurable bone disease he believes was caused by dioxin exposure, says the health support service is a step in the right direction but falls short of what workers were expecting.

He welcomes the possibility of research into the potential impacts of PCP the families of those exposed to the chemicals.

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View PostMoe, on Jun 23 2010, 10:04 PM, said:

Manu Bennett was just interviewed on Maori radio. http://www.irirangi.net He got a different report to what the media posted. Seems Maori mill workers are to get SFA under this scheme & he says the media have posted fallacies.

There's to be no DNA testing to ascertain levels of genetic damage suffered from the PCPs & ACC aren't bothered. The excuses are flakey. Maori are being denied DNA tests because it's been too long and the PCP's would by now be out of their bodies!

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Posted 28 June 2010 - 05:14 AM

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread.

We have cases coming out of Paritutu as well as the timber mill workers, who are not being diagnosed early enough to get adequate treatment. Those with neurological disorders remain undiagnosed under the DSM criteria until the disease has well progressed and early intervention and treatment options reduced.

The same PCPs, produced by IWD in Taranaki, were used as the Agent Orange defoliant in Viet Nam. http://www.corporatecrimeofthecentury.com/...age/3379320.htm



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Both children had cleft palates & nephew has fused toes. I think Don Sarten's right - NZ deformed babies look like Asian babies affected by AO in Vietnam. Then there was Coffs Harbour, cleft palate capital of the world due to pesticide. I can't remember which; I think it may be in an early Soil & Health mag. http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/0...landhealth.html

Prevailing wind was NW - draw a straight line from Paritutu. Spread out V the further away from source u get. 1:1000 live births in the 70's, within 30 yrs it had doubled so the polluters never let up on the poisoning. Paritutu ppl have over 4x National average. National average higher than it should be anyway as Dow were permitted to use up stockpile for maybe 20yrs.

How many successive govts got paid off over that? Maybe we had Paraquat exposure in our early years before it was banned. (A form of it is still being used to brown off potato & onion tops, just changed the name.)

Farmers used to commit suicide with it - wen who came back from WWII with unacknowledged PTSD. Also the cancers seemed to begin with the onset of superphosphate - cancer in farm animals too. Sheep & cattle started getting melanomas on ears & noses. We probably got DDT - Cheap stuff in drums. This was used in a metal pressure pack before the widespread introduction of aerosolised fly spray cans.

A CCS field officer said it could be the fly spray. She said the genetic counselling was just a red herring to placate parents. The damage was already done - not genetic but poisons affect gene expression! But it’s nothing like those poor Paritutu babies.


Min Of Health said that Foray48b wouldn't reach us from a fixed wing aircraft, as we were 200m from the edge of the spray zone. So what was the substance scraped off car windows every morning which car window washers & wipers would not shift? (Also in UK bovine spongiform encephalopathy prions, were said to drift hundreds of miles FROM GROUND LEVEL!!!!!) That NZ Minister Of Health retired after the Foray 48B campaign.

For some their descent into Alzheimer’s was very much like the DPT mercury descent into hell - memory first, then optic nerves screwed up & peripheral vision. (They ended up short on Mg.)
- Taranaki mother of two deformed live birth babies.
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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:54 PM

View PostGone Walkabout, on 26 November 2003 - 04:58 AM, said:

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Vietnam war veteran Wayne Chester shows a photo of his daughter Rachael.
Picture / Paul Estcourt

Angry tears as MPs hear of Agent Orange's awful legacy

26.11.2003
By MARTIN JOHNSTON

In Wayne Chester's mind, the sickly stink of diesel is forever connected to the destroyed jungles of Vietnam.

"I'll never forget the smell," the former soldier said yesterday after giving evidence on Agent Orange.

He told Parliament's health select committee he believed the toxic herbicide that showered him from aircraft while he fought the Vietnam War in 1968-69 had caused him and two of his three children numerous health problems.

The committee is investigating evidence that New Zealand military were exposed to defoliants, the risks for them and their families, and if they need further health services.

War veteran Bill McCoid, of Whangarei, said it was impossible to avoid the residue of dioxin-contaminated chemicals.

"It was everywhere. On the ground where we slept, on the vegetation - or what was standing - and even in the water we had to drink.

"I saw our own men spraying around our tent lines in Nui Dat base camp and the water which was delivered to us by tanker was drawn from a water point just outside the wire where spraying frequently occurred."

Mr McCoid now has skin cancers and an extensive skin rash.

Mr Chester, a 58-year-old company director from Helensville, listed the devastating effects on his family of what superiors in Vietnam had told him was "anti-malarial spray".

His 28-year-old daughter Rachael was born with a growth in her throat, was hyperactive, had cancer and suffers from migraines, a skin disorder, chemical reactions and agoraphobia, which caused panic attacks, kept her at home and prevented her from communicating with other people.

Fionna, Mr Chester's 30-year-old daughter, had a heart murmur, bowel and bladder dysfunction and endometriosis, a painful condition linked to the uterus. She suffered migraines from birth and a burst blood vessel in the brain when a teenager. She was now partially paralysed, could not use her left arm or hand, nor walk properly.

Mr Chester said his own legacy included diabetes, depression, liver disease ("I don't drink") and skin disorders.

Quizzed by MPs, he said that of 20 former Vietnam comrades he had spoken to at a reunion, five or six reported problems in their children.

He recalled US military promotion of Agent Orange as safe, but said that if he knew then how dangerous it was, "I would have mutinied".

Marrakech Jennings-Lowry, 20, the daughter of a veteran, wept as she told the committee of how the chemicals had ruined her life.

At least five of her organs were affected. She had had a hysterectomy, because of endometriosis, and needed a heart and lung transplant, which she said would have to be done overseas.

She was unable to work or study.

She said her husband earned $100 too much for her to receive financial help from Veterans' Affairs, yet she had to spend $300 a week on drugs and transport to medical visits.

"I'm sick of this. I want compensation," said Mrs Jennings-Lowry, who is preparing a law suit against the Government.

The Government pays for counselling and out-of-pocket medical bills of veterans' children, but it is restricted to certain conditions.

Witnesses canvassed by committee chairwoman Steve Chadwick about setting up a register of veterans and their families and the need for a Government apology indicated support for both.

Many were angry at Government-commissioned reports, one of which found no conclusive link between veterans' military service and their children's ill health; the other declaring there was no aerial spraying in Phuoc Tuy province where most New Zealanders were based.

Opposition MPs forced the inquiry's formation after a retired Army officer produced a map issued to him when serving there that showed the area was sprayed. In June, the Government admitted there had been spraying in Phuoc Tuy.

The wife of a veteran, Elizabeth Lancaster, the mother of two intellectually and physically impaired children, alleged that the Government-commissioned reports were attempts at a cover-up.

Vietnam Veterans Association president John Moller said one, the McLeod Review, was superficial and erroneous. The other, from an inquiry headed by former Governor-General Sir Paul Reeves, "was based in part on information which was biased, discredited and in some cases fraudulent". The hearing continues in Wellington today.

Spray weapon

* In the Vietnam War the US sprayed herbicides on jungle to deprive its enemies of cover.

* Agent Orange was the main defoliant, sprayed from planes and on the ground.

* It was a mix of the toxic dioxin-containing weedkillers 2,4,5, T and 2,4, D plus kerosene or diesel.

* Parliament's health committee is hearing from sprayed war veterans and their wives and children.

* Veterans say many of them are ill from the chemicals and their children suffer deformities and diseases.

* They are seeking further acknowledgement that New Zealanders were sprayed, and an apology.

* Some want compensation and a survey of veterans and their families.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm...section=general



Is this one & the same Wayne Chester & his family members?



http://www.northcham...rticleID=101715

http://www.northerna...-fight/3710468/

http://www.vietkid.blogspot.com

http://www.pdminvest...om/profile.html

http://www.rodney.go...h/rchpm0903.pdf

If he is one & the same he sure has a background to him & done very well to be such a busy Private Investigator.

Is this Wayne Chester's wife, Jo - formally known as Jocelyn, who is now a qualified reacher at Whangarei Boys High School?

http://www.wbhs.scho...2011%20%235.pdf
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Posted 02 November 2011 - 06:04 PM

The Vietnam Veterans Association of Australia (VVAA) had its advent in the Vietnam Veterans Action Association formed in the late 1979 as a result of the perceptions of Vietnam veterans that exposure to chemicals was causing problems with their health and the health of their children. The chemicals, known by the generic name of Agent Orange included 2,4,5,T and 2,4,D, a by product of which is the extremely poisonous substance TCDD or dioxin. The problems ranged from minor irritation to lethal, with symptoms such as skin blisters, itching, flushes, nasal problems, blurred vision, respiratory, cardiovascular, gastrointestinal, gastro-urinary muscular and nervous system disorders, cancers and tumours. This was often exacerbated by psychological disorders caused by what was later diagnosed as post traumatic stress disorder.
The Association fought an uphill battle against government indifference, including the bitter disappointment of the now discredited 1983 Evatt Royal Commission on the Use and Effects of Chemical Agents on Australian Personnel in Vietnam. At the same time there was a very real feeling that the RSL had not accepted the Vietnam veterans, and nor would it pursue the concerns of this group with the vigour they believed that those concerns warranted. This feeling was never stronger than during this period, when the VVAA and the RSL were absolutely opposed.

The gradual successes of the VVAA in the following years came as a result of much hard work and lobbying. The Vietnam Veterans Counselling Service was established as a direct result of the action of the VVAA, and it is now an integral part of treatment regimes, not only for veterans, but also for the survivors of traumatic events such as the Port Arthur Massacre.

This was followed by the establishment of the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder Clinic in Heidelburg, which now extended its treatment to St John of God Hospital in Sydney, together with visiting services to various rural locations. Lifestyle courses permit veterans to contribute to their own well-being, learning how to cope with problems and adapt their lifestyle to best suit themselves.

The bitterness engendered by the political response to veterans’ concerns about their health and the health of their children coloured the attitude of the Vietnam Veterans Association of Australia for many years. It is only lately that positive action by both the Department of Veterans Affairs and the VVAA has resulted in a relationship where the concerns of veterans are being addressed. The VVAA is represented on a large number of Government committees as a respected part of the Ex-Service community and is a major contributor to debate, legislation and administration involving veterans.

The VVAA remains a wholly volunteer body, whose sole interest is the welfare of veterans and the families of veterans. It has strong representation in every State and Territory, and very close ties with equivalent organisations in the United States and New Zealand. The relationship between the now R&SL and the Association has matured into one of mutual respect, and many members of the Association also enjoy membership of the R&SL.

Current issues involving the Association include the recently released results of the Vietnam Veterans’ Mortality Study, (commissioned by the Department of Veterans Affairs) and following through on the self-reported issues revealed in the long-delayed Vietnam Veterans’ Health Study, including spouses and children. The Mortality Study revealed that Vietnam veterans have a death rate 7% higher than the general male population, with deaths from cancer 21% higher, prostate cancer 53% higher, lung cancer 29%, ischaemic heart disease 10% and suicides 21% above the general male population. This is a cause for grave concern, and work continues to ensure that the results of this study are reflected in Repatriation Medical Authority and Departmental documents. The nominal roll of Vietnam veterans was released in 1997, although it should be noted that the value of this work is in its contribution towards the Mortality and Health Studies. In addition to this, the End of War List for this war has just been compiled, and this will result in a review of awards which were recommended at the time but which were not awarded due to the imposition of medal quotas. All of these things contribute to addressing the issues of concern to veterans. The results of the Health Study were released in April 1998, and sadly, confirmed the worst fears of veterans in relation their health, and the health of their children. The VVAA is committed to accomplishing, quickly, accurately and completely, the validation which the government requires. It will then move to achieve the Association's stated aims in regard to the Health Study outcomes.
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