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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:10 PM

is there any case history on arachnoiditis that has been through the court system in the last 2 years PLEASE

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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:11 PM

From: Ivan Sent: 28/04/2003 8:25 AM

The most recent I'm aware of is Clarke v ACC (D.C. Decision No. 194/2000, Beattie DCJ).

The Court upheld cover for medical mishap being declined because, at the time the myelogram was done, the adverse consequences did not meet the rarity threshold of 1% for medical mishap.

That doesn't mean, necessarily, that it does not meet the rarity test later or now - the procedure's safety may have improved. That would require expert medical evidence, presumably from a radiologist, to determine.
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:11 PM

From: Lori Sent: 28/04/2003 11:23 AM

Really Ivan, Only what I would expect from that judge. You guys need to fight that, cause it could cause you a lot of grief in the long run.

You need to be aware of how you put your legal questions to a decision they have made. You need to get an astute lawyer who begs the question in a manner as to avoid that possible type of answer. All is fair in love and war.....there's no love involved in their decisions, be sure of that.


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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:12 PM

From: Scouser Sent: 1/05/2003 12:39 AM

Gaffa09 Re Myodil,

The only success was many years ago in the uk. Even so the payments were minimal and in most cases did not cover expenses.

All attempts for a class action here have failed miserably.

Arachnoiditis is now covered in the AMA guide 4 th edition.
Sorry this is not what you may have been wanting to hear.

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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:12 PM

From: Sylv Sent: 1/05/2003 10:20 PM
Re Myodil

Glaxo have not only settled with the UK. They settled with all the Australian cases that were registered with the lawyers handling it approx 3 years ago. I'm not completely sure of the dates but I know of some NZ people who were injected in Australia and were successful in their claim.

Sylv
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:13 PM

From: WayTooMuchCoffeeMan Sent: 1/05/2003 11:35 PM

Good information on arachnoiditis at

http://www.aboutarac....org/index.html

cheers
kiwee
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:13 PM

From: gaffa09 (Original Message) Sent: 18/04/2003 1:03 p.m.

for the people that have had spinel injuries and have had a injection in the spine read rod report Kiwi news well done Rod you are worth a rum and more
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:14 PM

From: gaffa09 Sent: 18/04/2003 1:14 p.m.

for the people that have got a spinal injury and have had an injection in
the spine read RODS report Kiwi news.

a very special thanks to rod Keep on that story and you will hit the big
times there are over 4,000 sufferers in NZ alone I will have to shout a
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:14 PM

From: Stand_Strong Sent: 5/05/2003 8:43 a.m.
Hi Gaffa,

I have had spinal problems for years now with a myelogram done back in the late 80's, and have had 3 spinal surgeries, with the result of my life now being far from what it once was.

If it wasn't for the 23 pills every day I'd hate to think of where I might be.

I belong to a very good support group for this condition and hope that you do as well. Please email me direct for the address, they have been a life saver for me.
I hope that your day is as pain-free as possible.
Stay positive and happy.
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:15 PM

From: greg Sent: 5/05/2003 9:24 a.m.

http://www.toxnet.nlm.nil.gov/

this site has inf.may be helpful also
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:16 PM

From: gaffa09 (Original Message) Sent: 7/04/2003 3:34 p.m.

FROM Gaffa09

I have been fighting the ACC and medical profession for many
years on the drugs that have been injected into peoples spines.
IF YOU HAVE A SPINAL PROBLEM do not I repeat DO NOT let doctors inject DYES
{ myodil or Amipaque or Omipaque or Dimerx into your spine also another
dangeress drug is DEPO-MEDROL a drug injected into your spine to kill pain

IF you want to be another victom of ARACHNODITIS which can take upto 10 or
15years to raise its head this is worse than cancer PLease beleave me
there are thousards of suffers out there and the bastards are still using
DEPO-MEDROL today.

the Drug was made to inject into horses knees after an accident .

IT was not made for humans this come from the worlds experts
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:16 PM

From: jocko Sent: 7/04/2003 5:48 p.m.

5 to 10% of people have adverse reactions to medication, up to 70,000 hospital admissions each year.........

They are the 2nd highest cause of death after cardio vascular disease.......

.causing 1 out of 4 deaths !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That From John Dunlop Head of the Pharmacists thingy. !!

Read that in a readers digest at the doctors this arvo march 2002 edition. is it true???? surely not.

A qaurter of the deaths caused by the cure????????? doctor says I have the flu with a secondary lung infection, thought I was a bit crook!! Does anyone know anything about the above???
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:17 PM

From: Lori Sent: 7/04/2003 8:39 p.m.
Yep Jocko,
The very Drs who we go to to save us are responsible for something like 80% of the deaths of those aged between 20 and 45.

How about that one?????

Lori.
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:17 PM

From: jocko Sent: 7/04/2003 9:49 p.m.

No ! *&^$ no no no nwya no mate no shit no no I already got a super paranoia about prescription drugs nononono do not feed me this no no.gggo away!!! Honestly am I on ....... wait oh thank God I have influenza with a secondary lung infection and a fever and I am having halucinations this is not real. But IT is real. One thing negative about this site is it makes you old quick at times.
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:18 PM

From: Sylv Sent: 8/04/2003 3:58 p.m.
Dear Gaffa09

I have just read your message about the use of Depo Medrol. My ongoing injuries and disability relates directly to the use of this drug without my knowledge.

I received medical misadventure in 1997 under medical mishap... the adverse effects had lasted longer than 28 days!! This drug ruined my life at the age of 39.
Some of you may say why did you have it?

I did not want the epidural believe me and tried to get out of having it but my case manager back then stated I had signed a document agreeing to all treatment offered!I was told that if I did not accept treatment offered I would lose my cover. I am a lot wiser now believe me!

I belong to a NZ support group for arachnoiditis and all chronic back pain. You can find more information on their website www.arachnoiditis.info

You can make contact with me through the website above.
I also have a lot of documentation on this drug. The reason that this drug is still being used in NZ is because the doctors are using it under section 25 of the medicines Act . This section allows them to use any drug NOT recommended for certain procdures. They are SUPPOSED to gain INFORMED consent before the use of it.
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:18 PM

From: mouse Sent: 8/04/2003 8:46 p.m.

Is section 25 of the Medicines Act also know as "off label use" , if so your scan for "back pain" would not met the legal requirements



From: fairgo1 Sent: 9/04/2003 9:36 a.m.
Sylv,
Could you contact me privately off board. have tried to contact you through
the website you mentioned but can't find you. Thanks
fairgo
acclaim-otago@paradise.net.nz
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:19 PM

From: Sylv Sent: 19/04/2003 2:32 p.m.
Depo-Medrol also known as Methylpredisone acetate is a steroid drug used for treatment of inflammation often caused by the different arthritis conditions. The steroid itself is not the problem but the preservative, also known as the "carrier" which contains polyetheline glycol. This has been likened by medical experts around the world as "anti-freeze" and if injected onto a nerve root could cause problems!

Depo -Medrol is manufactured by Upjohn and has approval for use in all joints such as knees, elbows, shoulders, etc BUT it does NOT have approval for the use in the Intrathecal space or epidural space and the adverse reaction listed on the packet insert clearly states this and one of the side effects could be arachnoiditis.

From the packet insert:
CERTAIN ADVERSE REACTIONS REPORTED WITH SOME NON RECOMMENDED ROUTES OF ADMINISTRATION:
- Intrathecal (into the area that contains the spinal fluid)/epidural: arachnoiditis, meningitis, paraparesis/paraplegia, sensory disturbances, bowel/bladder dysfunction, headache and seizures.

There was a lot of controversy in the early 1980's over the use of this drug by NON approved routes of adminstrations, this was supposedly 'sorted' but more controversy erupted with more adverse reactions in the late 1980's - 1990's.
Becasue of the controversy surrounding this use a New Zealand pain specialist applied to Upjohn in 1987 for funding to run studies with the mind of putting paid to all the documented data but UPJOHN refused the application! I wonder why??? it is my belief they knew and still know of the problems associated with this drug being used in NON approved routes of administrations and have actually stated in writing that this drug is not approved by them for these procedures!

All those who suffer chronic back pain and have either had intervention by way of surgery and are offered this type of treatment please ask some very important questions of the doctor:
1. Ask to see the packet insert.... if they do not agree then ask yourself why?

2. Ask if it has approval for use?

3. what are all the documented risks involved no matter how minor?

4. Make the decision for invasive procedures on a "bad" and ask yourself first "could I stand being worse than I am today"?

The other steroid often used for these procedures is known as Triamcinolone - Kenacort A 40 by Bristol Myers, this drug does NOT have approval for these uses either but are used as often as Depo-Medrol.

Until recently Depo-medrol was available in single dose vials and multi-dose vials. The multi dose vials contained the same preservatives but with the additional additive of benzyl alcohol. The multi dose vial is no longer available in NZ.
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:19 PM

From: gaffa09 (Original Message) Sent: 28/03/2003 3:48 p.m.
Hi All

Can anyone help, is there anyone out there or you know of anyone that has won a case Re myodil Arachnoiditis agains't ACC medical misadventure If you do please contact me urgent.

to my info ther e are thousands of sufferers out there.
Myodil was injected into the spine for xrays after spinal injury. was used up until 1987 when it was withdrawn off the market. it was widely used and has very bad side effects The list is as long as your arm. It is now accepted by the health Dept that it is dangeres.
this one is very important I was case s
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:20 PM

From: Acclaimchch Sent: 29/03/2003 12:11 a.m.
Hi Gaffa09,

I believe that an alternative acrylic die replaced the original myodil until a later, I also believe that it was withdrawn from general use in the UK but continued in use in NZ to use up stocks of the die for about another 2 or 3 years.

The acrylic die was not as effective but was adequate until it was discovered that it induced similar side effects of a not so severe a nature and was finally withdrawn completely around 1991 or 1992.

All very hush hush, don't tell joe public, such facts are beyond the comprehension of the common working man, one can almost hear the swishing of white coated shoulders shrugging in distaste at the thought of being found out and MADE PUBLIC.

Payout in the UK was swift and quite substantial.
Acclaimchch
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 04:20 PM

From: nann Sent: 29/03/2003 7:45 a.m.

Hi Gaffa09, I have collected my full Medical Records from the Hospital. (a lot of records from many years)
Seems strange that the few pages on my discogram notes have been blackened out, these are the only pages from my records this has happened to......hush! hush! or is it Hide! hide!
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