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#1 User is offline   freefallnz 

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Posted 02 June 2005 - 11:51 PM

The latest IRP prepared for my case has the following Outcome to be achieved.

SI - XX - Return to work.

I have written to my case manager asking for clarifiaction of what I can only call Administrative codes..

I could hazard a guess and say that SI stood for Serious Injury.

What the XX Stands for is course any bodys guess.

However I have opened a book on the topic on possibly plausable explanations.

Suspected explanations.
SI = Serious Injury 1:1
SI = Stupid Individual :1
SI = Stupid IP 10:6
SI = Typing error 3:2
SI = Seditious IP 5:8
SI = Seriously Injure 2:4
SI = Surreptitiously Investigate 2:1
SI = Typing error 2:3
SI = Data entry error 6:1
SI = Photcopying error 32:5

XX = extreme exit 1:1
XX = Terminate with Predjudice 1:1
XX = Update number - 16:3
XX = Exterminate Exterminate 3:4
XX = Typing error 3:2
XX = Data entry error 2:4
XX = Human Error 4:3

Bets accepted off forum (not)

I will of course keep the forum posted as to the explanation I recieve.. (dont hold your breath)
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Posted 03 June 2005 - 02:52 PM

SI - XXX 3 X's and your out?
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Posted 08 June 2005 - 03:23 PM

Update number 1.

My case manager states over the phone that ACC has received my two letters & that she does not want to answer my concerns in writing and has scheduled a meeting for Friday the 17'th.

Any volunteers?
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Posted 08 June 2005 - 04:29 PM

Greetings,
Should you have to go alone, Tape the interview. If CM objects. Hand her a written Request under the Official Info Act for that information and terminate interview.
Ask for a date stamped photo copy of it.
Give her the OIA anyway... and if you have not already done so give her the Consent for and release of Information Forms as well.
(dowload for printing here on forum).
Keep cool, speak quietly and always with a big smile... Keeping full eye contact at all times.

TC.

ps ... it is a wise move to get both forms stamped and copied at reception before interview.
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 09:13 PM

Nother update

Still to have my promised meeting and get my promised answers :-)

Twice now ACC have rescheduled the meeting..

This time they're gonna get back to me with a new date. ????????????

Seems like they haven't got PC answers yet!!
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Posted 23 June 2005 - 10:27 PM

Dont talk to your case manager on the phone, insist you get the answers you want in writing, what area are u in. Ask for a copy of your file including your full pathway file. If you do not get the required answers in the stipulated time frame lay a complaint.
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 09:48 PM

Nother Update......

Well at Last the meeting has occured...

well bugger me not a single answer in writing... (hehe YET)

I was informed verbally that SI - stood for Serious Injury

and XX was just a filler and shouldn't have been there.. :huh:

Hmmm now how do I word an offical information request for a breakdown of administrative codes...

Next issue that was discussed was my request for clarication of the IMA from the learned medical specialist coincidentally lodged with ACC a month ago.

ACC have now kindly agreed to forward my questions and statements to the learned Medical Professional for Clarification.!!! :huh:

Next Issue the IRP... That I have yet to sign... Well apart from disagreeing on the wording of the Goal..

The CM & Team Leader both insist I sign this Document.. As they Say "We can only do what is recommended by the Medical Expert" and like I keep saying "Hang on What about the questions that have not been answered by the medical expert" and they say "We can only do what is recommended by the Medical Expert" and I say "Hang on What about the questions that have not been answered by the medical expert aren't we waiting for an updated report?"

No they Say you must sign this IRP!!! And Like I Say GO F*%*K yourselves.

I have the right to be treated with dignity and respect.
I have the right to be treated fairly, and to have my views considered.
I have the right to effective communication.
I have the right to be fully informed.

I most certainly have the right to expect answers to my questions to a Medical specialist in an effort to clarify my IRP within 21 Working Days......

Not this BS! :ph34r: Ah well more CRAP on file. Letters to Complaints, Privacy Commissioner and Ombudsman
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 10:59 PM

there is one thing that you should do is send a letter outlining what was discussed and why the IRP was not signed. It means that the ACC has your record and view on file as well as theres
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Posted 06 July 2005 - 11:38 PM

Hey, you also sign you IRP in consultation with your GP, not the IMA!!!!! He is there to shaft you .
What is the diagnosis and restrictions etc on the IRP. Are these correct?
Does it mention 35hrs?? If it does it is an illegal IRP. Also did it mention 35hrs in the IMA assessment? AND, who was your honourable assessor? Which toady was it??
Good luck, you are in a precarious position and you stick out against them for your rights. Get a copy of the Act and have a look under IRP's. Also there is good advice on the forum as well.
Does your IRP contain any SOCIAL rehab, like all the things that are necessary for your rehabilitation and treatment?????
Wonderful CM cooperation, working for you, ACC we care??!!!
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Posted 11 July 2005 - 03:13 PM

Yup heres the reply cc'd to the Health & Disability commissioner & ACC Complaints

Ah well Now I'm waiting for even more answers.. Oh how ACC Dig deep holes for themselves..

Dear F*&^kwit

With Regards to our meeting on the 7’th July.

1. As stated in my letter dated the 2’nd June 2005 (ref:nnnn) it was agreed by you in our meeting on the 26’th May 2005, that should I have any concerns over Dr SYCOPHANT's, ACC would question Dr SYCOPHANT and request clarification.

I am extremely disappointed that I have not received written responses to my questions dated 2’nd June.

I note you contacted Dr Dr SYCOPHANT on the 6’th of June to request a copy of the schedule of documents supplied to him. I think that your behaviour is farcical and disingenuous in that you failed at that time to submit my questions and statements as required and agreed.

I note you forwarded my file to a BMA on the 8’th June.

I note that on the 8’th of June you scheduled a meeting for the 17’th of June with me to discuss my written questions and statements.

I also note that in my letter to F*&^kwit dated 8’th June 2005 {ref:nnnn) I confirmed that I required written answers.

I am in fact disgusted that you had failed to submit my written questions and statements for clarification by Dr SYCOPHANT prior to our meeting on the 7’th July.

2. Individual Rehabilitation Plan amended 7’th July 2005.

I am appalled that you were unable to provide the answers to my very real and serious concerns at this meeting.

I refuse to sign the rehabilitation plan as discussed until such time as Dr SYCOPHANT responses to my questions and statements have been answered and addressed.

In fact I believe that your insistence about my signing the IRP and your statement that “We can only do what is recommended by the medical experts” when it was noted that We are awaiting clarification from Dr SYCOPHANT to my questions and statements dated 2,nd June 2005 is just another example of the maltreatment and bullying received by the disabled from your office.

3. Privacy Issues.

a. On the 6’th of June you received a fax from Dr SYCOPHANT office at 13:29. I note that I did not receive a copy of Page 1 of 2 of this fax in the “complete” copy of the file supplied to me on the 7’th July.

Please give your reasons for withholding this document.

b. Privacy concerns in the past led to a mediated agreement whereby We agreed upon the bundle of medical reports that would be sent too Dr SYCOPHANT including the copy of a report from aaaa dated dd/mm/1990 that you had obtained illegally. The mediated agreement specifically stated that the report from Dr BADDY would be excluded.

I found it Ludicrous that in our latest meeting you presented to me as fact that we had agreed to send only the reports as listed in the Schedule of Documents. My copy of the bundle of reports contains 3 reports from Dr GOODY! My copy of the mediated agreement quite clearly shows that the report from Dr BADDY be excluded and again quite clearly does not show any Schedule of Documents.

I would be interested in your explanation as to why Dr GOODY’s reports were withheld.

Given your previous disregard to privacy issues that I have already raised with you and the fact that you and your staff have continued to abuse your position of power by bowdlerising the information provided too Occupational and Medical assessors I am left with no alternatives other than documenting your Gross breaches of the Privacy Act 1993 and the ACC Claimants code of Rights.

I have the right to be treated with dignity and respect.
I have the right to be treated fairly, and to have my views considered.
I have the right to effective communication.
I have the right to be fully informed.

I most certainly have the right to expect written replies to all my questions, statements and concerns within 21 working days.


Looking forward to a prompt reply.


Your’s Sincerely
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Posted 14 July 2005 - 01:31 AM

Atta Girl,

Keep them working.......snigger...yeah right. Anyway keep em busy and hold your power and never give up your legislated rights.

cheers Lori
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Posted 02 August 2005 - 06:38 PM

Just another update..

Still waiting!! and the paper war drags on....

"On the 2’nd of June I submitted to your office a list of questions and statements for answer by Dr xxxxx.

I again confirmed in writing on the 08/06/2005 that I required written answers to my concerns.

I have now received Dr xxxxx answers dated 13’th July 2005.

It is with more than a modicum of concern that I note that in Dr xxxxx 2,nd paragraph he states “You have stated that this item(1) “Documentation reviewed” has already been discussed between yourself and MOIand I do not need to address this further.”

It is more than apparent that you instructed Dr. xxxxx not to answer my questions.

I will agree that in our meeting on the 7’th July we discussed my concerns over the documentation provided to Dr xxxxx and it was agreed that you would forward Dr Goodies reports. Such an agreement however did not give rise to any mandate for you to instruct Dr xxxxx to ignore any of my concerns and questions.

As already noted in my complaint dated 8/07/05 It is fact that you and your staff have continued to abuse your position of power by bowdlerising the information provided too Occupational and Medical assessors.

Your actions can only be construed as another gross abuse of your position of power and again a gross breach of the Privacy Act 1993 and the ACC Claimants code of Rights.

You had no right, authority or mandate to instruct Dr xxxxx not to answer my questions.

As such I still require written answers from Dr xxxxx on the following matters.

1. Would Dr xxxxx agree that an assessing physician requires a complete patient history including all medical reports as well as specialist reports i.e. physiotherapy, occupational therapy, psychological and psychiatric reports to be supplied to the assessing physician before reviewing a patients case and making any diagnosis or recommendations on the basis of reasonable medical certainty.

2. Is it now accepted practice that medical assessors accept as adequate and appropriate a compendium of reports from the ACC and do not require a complete documented medical history?”

Looking forward to a prompt reply."
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Posted 20 January 2006 - 02:43 PM

Hi Freefallnz
Do you have any updates on this to share?

Did you ever get your answers?

Were there any deliberate altering of established paragraphs in your new IRP?

I read in sect99 that assessors "Must receive full medical reports of rehab and any other information or comments an insured wishes to place before the medical assessor must be taken into account."


Where does this legally leave the acc and the assessors?

Cheers Lori
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