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Posted 14 November 2003 - 01:56 AM

From: doppelganger (Original Message) Sent: 10/08/2003 9:52 p.m.
Found in Southland Times
Accident Compensation
Have you had your weekly compensation Stopped?
Lump Sum Compensation?
Come to a free consultation with:
ANDREW CADENHEAD
Accident Compensation Law Specialist
On Friday 15 August, 2003
At Mark Peck's Invercargill Electorate Office
Cnr Esk and Deveron Street, Invercargill.
Phone (03)2188231 for an appointment.

think it is time that Mr Andrew Cadenhead declared to the public that his relationship with Catlyst and the getting rid of stock. can someone put on here the Cadenhead's familaly involvement in the ACC and its sub's.
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From: zelto Sent: 11/08/2003 4:59 a.m.
he sure does get around . He has been advertising in a top of the south newspaper for at least the last 4 years, touting exclusively for acc work. Same old story as with so many other lawyers and doc's, they travel nearly anywhere to stay on the acc gravy train . . You cannot work for claimant's and ""lie"" in bed with the devil.Will the real andrew cadenhead please stand up cheers zelto


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From: Down6340 Sent: 11/08/2003 9:49 a.m.
Andrew Cadenhead also advertizes in local papers through out the middle of the S Island as well .... as an ACC Law Specialist 0800 234 789 ....very selective as to what problems he will take on ...wonder why ?


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From: greg Sent: 11/08/2003 10:51 a.m.
I became a client of a similar ex ACC. DSRL. staffer, now claiming
ACC. expetise. After he failed badly, the law firm transfered me another ex. ACC
staffer who is named in my file as refusing the very same entitlement as,,' was now
under a reviewable claim'. Talk about double dipping.

Spend some time checking out these experts??? dont think so


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From: doppelganger Sent: 11/08/2003 11:37 p.m.
I have sent this letter to southland times and when anyone sees an add it is out duty to inform the public who they are dealing with
Monday, 11 August 2003
Southlands Times
[email protected]
The Letters and your readers,
I think that it is my duty to inform that one of your advertises is a unreliable source to gather legal information about ACC compensation or lump sums.

Mr Andrew Cadenhead is an ex board member and employee of Catlyst and Dispute Resolution Services Limited, both that are part of the ACC. In my view Mr Andrew Cadenhead is not in a position to carry out any work against the corporation as many of the problems are a result of him working in the corporationís business.

I have no personal involvement with Mr Andrew Cadenhead, but my belief is Mr Andrew Cadenhead has curate a income for himself when he was working for the Corporationís subsidiary companyís

A victim of the corporations treatment program

Trevor Smith



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From: zelto Sent: 12/08/2003 6:13 a.m.
hear hear dopplehanger,
let us know if they print it .
isn't there some kind of law, or at least law society rule about this kind of greed.
cheers zelto


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From: doppelganger Sent: 12/08/2003 11:57 p.m.
yes there is zelto, thanks for telling me just have to do something about this
Doppelganger


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From: zelto Sent: 13/08/2003 2:11 a.m.
hi doppelganger,
do you know what would cover this , is it a law, or some kind of rule in the law society .If it is a law society thing maybe we could bring it to their attention .The obvious conflict of this situation must surely be of concern to more groups than just ourselves . cheers zelto


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From: neddy Sent: 25/08/2003 12:54 a.m.
Hi,

I am lead to believe that Andrew Cadenhead apparently will not work for Legal Aid. Like any lawyer he will work on the normal pay up front basis but he does offer the alternative of a win or lose basis. If he opts for this he will have looked at your case and decided whether or not you are a good risk. He takes a substantial amount if he wins, I am led to understand at least 80 % of the backdated ERC. If he loses there is supposedly no cost to you. Whilst upfront he looks appealing, you may find yourself with les than $2000.00 from a $20,000.00 settlement after tax and paying Andrew. Any new medical reports he seeks will be at your cost and he will normally specify where and to whom you go. This can be costly e.g. travelling long distances and paying up to $1500.00 at the time of your medical appointment to the practitioner.


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From: flwrznz Sent: 25/08/2003 1:34 a.m.
sounds like he and his mates have a profitable scam going



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From: greg Sent: 25/08/2003 10:29 a.m.
This sounds a very similar event chain to my own.

First contact,, we will at no cost to you check your file/ disability payments

sign authority to collect info.,

find no monies owed

find another claim you were dis-allowed

send to a specialist

not allow you a copy of the report until you sign legal aid

you have now lost on both accounts.

big legal bill threat ????????????
sound familar


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From: nemesis666 Sent: 25/08/2003 7:32 p.m.
Andrew Cadenhead did my appeal for me on legal aid - although it took awhile
to go through he did a good job.
As for pro-bono - I find 80% of your backpay/payout a little hard to believe
because once tax is paid there isn't 80% left. Perhaps you need to check
your source cause the figures you have listed sound over the top. I would
be interested to know the outcome once you have checked. Also it was my
understanding the pro-bono is illegal but I know it is done.

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From: Just-Lori Sent: 25/08/2003 8:09 p.m.
Once you sign the papers....its a contract....it is legal and enforceable so I understand. Unfortunately.

Lori







Lori
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 09:12 AM

View PostGone Walkabout, on 14 November 2003 - 01:56 AM, said:

From: doppelganger (Original Message) Sent: 10/08/2003 9:52 p.m.
Found in Southland Times
Accident Compensation
Have you had your weekly compensation Stopped?
Lump Sum Compensation?
Come to a free consultation with:
ANDREW CADENHEAD
Accident Compensation Law Specialist
On Friday 15 August, 2003
At Mark Peck's Invercargill Electorate Office
Cnr Esk and Deveron Street, Invercargill.
Phone (03)2188231 for an appointment.

think it is time that Mr Andrew Cadenhead declared to the public that his relationship with Catlyst and the getting rid of stock. can someone put on here the Cadenhead's familaly involvement in the ACC and its sub's.
Doppelganger


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From: zelto Sent: 11/08/2003 4:59 a.m.
he sure does get around . He has been advertising in a top of the south newspaper for at least the last 4 years, touting exclusively for acc work. Same old story as with so many other lawyers and doc's, they travel nearly anywhere to stay on the acc gravy train . . You cannot work for claimant's and ""lie"" in bed with the devil.Will the real andrew cadenhead please stand up cheers zelto


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From: Down6340 Sent: 11/08/2003 9:49 a.m.
Andrew Cadenhead also advertizes in local papers through out the middle of the S Island as well .... as an ACC Law Specialist 0800 234 789 ....very selective as to what problems he will take on ...wonder why ?


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From: greg Sent: 11/08/2003 10:51 a.m.
I became a client of a similar ex ACC. DSRL. staffer, now claiming
ACC. expetise. After he failed badly, the law firm transfered me another ex. ACC
staffer who is named in my file as refusing the very same entitlement as,,' was now
under a reviewable claim'. Talk about double dipping.

Spend some time checking out these experts??? dont think so


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From: doppelganger Sent: 11/08/2003 11:37 p.m.
I have sent this letter to southland times and when anyone sees an add it is out duty to inform the public who they are dealing with
Monday, 11 August 2003
Southlands Times
[email protected]
The Letters and your readers,
I think that it is my duty to inform that one of your advertises is a unreliable source to gather legal information about ACC compensation or lump sums.

Mr Andrew Cadenhead is an ex board member and employee of Catlyst and Dispute Resolution Services Limited, both that are part of the ACC. In my view Mr Andrew Cadenhead is not in a position to carry out any work against the corporation as many of the problems are a result of him working in the corporationís business.

I have no personal involvement with Mr Andrew Cadenhead, but my belief is Mr Andrew Cadenhead has curate a income for himself when he was working for the Corporationís subsidiary companyís

A victim of the corporations treatment program

Trevor Smith



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From: zelto Sent: 12/08/2003 6:13 a.m.
hear hear dopplehanger,
let us know if they print it .
isn't there some kind of law, or at least law society rule about this kind of greed.
cheers zelto


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From: doppelganger Sent: 12/08/2003 11:57 p.m.
yes there is zelto, thanks for telling me just have to do something about this
Doppelganger


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From: zelto Sent: 13/08/2003 2:11 a.m.
hi doppelganger,
do you know what would cover this , is it a law, or some kind of rule in the law society .If it is a law society thing maybe we could bring it to their attention .The obvious conflict of this situation must surely be of concern to more groups than just ourselves . cheers zelto


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From: neddy Sent: 25/08/2003 12:54 a.m.
Hi,

I am lead to believe that Andrew Cadenhead apparently will not work for Legal Aid. Like any lawyer he will work on the normal pay up front basis but he does offer the alternative of a win or lose basis. If he opts for this he will have looked at your case and decided whether or not you are a good risk. He takes a substantial amount if he wins, I am led to understand at least 80 % of the backdated ERC. If he loses there is supposedly no cost to you. Whilst upfront he looks appealing, you may find yourself with les than $2000.00 from a $20,000.00 settlement after tax and paying Andrew. Any new medical reports he seeks will be at your cost and he will normally specify where and to whom you go. This can be costly e.g. travelling long distances and paying up to $1500.00 at the time of your medical appointment to the practitioner.


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From: flwrznz Sent: 25/08/2003 1:34 a.m.
sounds like he and his mates have a profitable scam going



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From: greg Sent: 25/08/2003 10:29 a.m.
This sounds a very similar event chain to my own.

First contact,, we will at no cost to you check your file/ disability payments

sign authority to collect info.,

find no monies owed

find another claim you were dis-allowed

send to a specialist

not allow you a copy of the report until you sign legal aid

you have now lost on both accounts.

big legal bill threat ????????????
sound familar


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From: nemesis666 Sent: 25/08/2003 7:32 p.m.
Andrew Cadenhead did my appeal for me on legal aid - although it took awhile
to go through he did a good job.
As for pro-bono - I find 80% of your backpay/payout a little hard to believe
because once tax is paid there isn't 80% left. Perhaps you need to check
your source cause the figures you have listed sound over the top. I would
be interested to know the outcome once you have checked. Also it was my
understanding the pro-bono is illegal but I know it is done.

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From: Just-Lori Sent: 25/08/2003 8:09 p.m.
Once you sign the papers....its a contract....it is legal and enforceable so I understand. Unfortunately.

Lori







Lori

so how can stop him getting any of my payout
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 09:28 AM

I also had to pay a advocate a future 10% of all earning plus 9% of my backpay at the wrong tax rate..
I unfortunately I didn't read the document properly at the time.
I suggest you read the legal agreement again and find the % you agreed on . Some claim 30%
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Posted 03 March 2014 - 10:58 AM

What we must remember is that the ACC are a multibillion dollar corporation having a bottomless financial resource to fund judicial procedures and deliberately create very expensive legal proceedings making it very difficult for an impoverished injured claimant to defend their position.

We must remember that lawyers are no different from the mechanic or the butcher in as much as they should be suitably rewarded for their work. If you have no money to agree upon to pay are expected reward and agree to a contract then that contract is binding unless the contract is in some way defective. The difficulty ACC legal consultants have is that on average they only win 30% of the time. This means that if they are accepting payment only upon winning that they will no doubt want to receive more than three times what they initially wanted you to pay if you have the money to pay. That is not unreasonable.

For example an ACC lawyers should be able to earn around $200 per hour or more depending on their expertise. This means if they only receive a payment if they win it is not unreasonable for them to be rewarded at the rate of more than $600 per hour for the work that they have done.

Never forget that when you commission someone to do work that does so for reward then you are not going to someone such as a social worker or a charity organisation.

In a general overall sense do you think that you have agreed to a contract that exceeds three times more than what you would otherwise pay if you have the money to pay upfront?
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