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Earnings compensation calculation based on capacity to work or capacity to earn?

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calculation for earnings compensation based on loss of capacity to work

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calculation for earnings compensation based on loss of capacity to earn

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#41 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 05:58 PM

View Posttommy, on 19 October 2019 - 05:09 PM, said:

and if so the topic relates to allan ,,,,,,as asked previously , do you have a valid claim ,,,,,,,,,,as in such matters towrds the corporation Posted Image


You continue to be off topic and I can only think your behaviour is deliberate
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#42 User is offline   Hemi 

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Posted 19 October 2019 - 06:55 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 19 October 2019 - 01:16 PM, said:

This thread is about the substance of what I have said on the first posting, not what some other nasty person trying to take over the thread thinks he wanted to be about. This also applies to yourself who routinely hijack peoples postings including this one..
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You have not published anything of substance
All unproven accusations
And astoundingly you have a judge agreeing with your accusation
So where’s the documented proof of that what you accuse of and have a lawful decision on
Does this accusation of confusion relate to in any way and if so apply to your own acc claim issues that have been denied or totally declinated leaving you no cover or erc entitlements.
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#43 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 11:37 AM

View PostHemi, on 19 October 2019 - 06:55 PM, said:

You have not published anything of substance
All unproven accusations
And astoundingly you have a judge agreeing with your accusation
So where’s the documented proof of that what you accuse of and have a lawful decision on
Does this accusation of confusion relate to in any way and if so apply to your own acc claim issues that have been denied or totally declinated leaving you no cover or erc entitlements.


It is not an accusation to state the fact that both the ACC and the courts seem to be in two minds as to whether ACC's liability to pay Ernie's compensation is attached to a capacity to work or a capacity to learn in the preinjury occupation and in the event of vocational rehabilitation a new occupation.
As the courts have made decisions both ways and in contradiction of each other this appears to be the fact of the matter.
The issue of this thread is to discuss what the legislation had to say about what the criteria is.
As for myself I am neither been accused of having a capacity to work or having an assertion that the medical profession are wrong regarding the magnitude of my injuries and incapacity to work.

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#44 User is offline   Hemi 

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 03:04 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 20 October 2019 - 11:37 AM, said:

It is not an accusation to state the fact that both the ACC and the courts seem to be in two minds as to whether ACC's liability to pay Ernie's compensation is attached to a capacity to work or a capacity to learn in the preinjury occupation and in the event of vocational rehabilitation a new occupation.
As the courts have made decisions both ways and in contradiction of each other this appears to be the fact of the matter.
The issue of this thread is to discuss what the legislation had to say about what the criteria is.
As for myself I am neither been accused of having a capacity to work or having an assertion that the medical profession are wrong regarding the magnitude of my injuries and incapacity to work.

Of course it’s STILL :lol:/> an accusation from you Thomas
Not a showing of anything of substance /fact etc from you
All we have from you is a work of fiction.
So how did Bert get on with acc on all this.
Your capacity to earn / work
Thats odd of course you were accused.
You were found guilty of fraud using medical documents
That’s something you have shown as facts.
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#45 User is offline   tommy 

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 03:12 PM

View Posttommy, on 20 October 2019 - 03:07 PM, said:

allan must report back in a timely manner , as in such matters of overturning his convictions ,as then ones. or others erc , wc entitlements being restored ,,,,,,

do a search engine allan ,,,,,,,,,,as in where the legislation ,,,,,,,,,as in your posted topic , and such ,,,matters and report back to the forum ,,,,, :rolleyes:
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#46 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 04:20 PM

View PostHemi, on 20 October 2019 - 03:04 PM, said:

Of course it’s STILL Posted Image/> an accusation from you Thomas
Not a showing of anything of substance /fact etc from you
All we have from you is a work of fiction.
So how did Bert get on with acc on all this.
Your capacity to earn / work
Thats odd of course you were accused.
You were found guilty of fraud using medical documents
That’s something you have shown as facts.


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#47 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 04:20 PM

View Posttommy, on 20 October 2019 - 03:07 PM, said:

allan must report back in a timely manner , as in such matters of overturning his convictions ,as then ones. or others erc , wc entitlements being restored ,,,,,,


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#48 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 04:20 PM

View Posttommy, on 20 October 2019 - 03:12 PM, said:

do a search engine allan ,,,,,,,,,,as in where the legislation ,,,,,,,,,as in your posted topic , and such ,,,matters and report back to the forum ,,,,, Posted Image


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#49 User is offline   tommy 

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Posted 20 October 2019 - 05:43 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 20 October 2019 - 04:20 PM, said:

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as in the long standing , declinature of a claim topic ,,,,,,,,,,,, you appear to be no further advanced as in doing so allan ,,,,,,and in such matters you appear to create new topics as in doing so ,,,,, :rolleyes:/>/>/>
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Posted 20 October 2019 - 05:48 PM

View Posttommy, on 20 October 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

as in the long standing , declinature of a claim ,,,,,,,,,,,, you appear to0 be no furthered advanced as in doing so allan ,,,,,,and in such matters you appear to create new topics as in doing so ,,,,, :rolleyes:/>/>
as legislation , or not ,one may have to seek acc judgements allan ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,to support ones case ,, :rolleyes:/>
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Posted 20 October 2019 - 05:54 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 19 October 2019 - 05:58 PM, said:

You continue to be off topic and I can only think your behaviour is deliberate
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report back in a timely manner allan as ones erc ,wc entitlements being restored ,,,,,,,,,and such you appear to a nuisance poster :rolleyes:
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#52 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 10:28 AM

View Posttommy, on 20 October 2019 - 05:43 PM, said:

as in the long standing , declinature of a claim topic ,,,,,,,,,,,, you appear to be no further advanced as in doing so allan ,,,,,,and in such matters you appear to create new topics as in doing so ,,,,, Posted Image/>/>/>


Wrong
You are being declined the relevant information as result of your obscene behaviour on the site.
You are off topic and therefore reported

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#53 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 10:30 AM

View Posttommy, on 20 October 2019 - 05:48 PM, said:

as legislation , or not ,one may have to seek acc judgements allan ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,to support ones case ,, Posted Image/>


Although you are not of topic, you are off point.
The point of this thread is not to discuss workaround solutions but rather the discussion should address the point of law. What is the criteria described in law. Too many people are so easily led by the ACC who successfully direct people like you to make a big noise in order to persuade others to act in a similar pattern of behaviour. Many claimants have had the experience of dealing with ACC decision-makers who behave like you

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#54 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 10:31 AM

View Posttommy, on 20 October 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

report back in a timely manner allan as ones erc ,wc entitlements being restored ,,,,,,,,,and such you appear to a nuisance poster Posted Image



Wrong
You are being declined the relevant information as result of your obscene behaviour on the site.
You are off topic and therefore reported
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#55 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 12:15 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 October 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

There seems to be a lot of confusion between ACC staff members and various decision-makers as to the legislated criteria for the purposes of determining the criteria of when earnings compensation is payable.

Can anyone please turn to the actual legislation for this purpose?

Has the criteria changed over the years?



this is the topic but sadly various immature members of the site are deliberately attempting to destroy any discussion regarding ACC legislation and related matters

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 12:58 PM

So far in this thread you have posted off topic more than 25 times, while most others have been addressing the subject matter. It is you that is the trouble maker.
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#57 User is offline   tommy 

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Posted 21 October 2019 - 03:25 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 21 October 2019 - 12:15 PM, said:

this is the topic but sadly various immature members of the site are deliberately attempting to destroy any discussion regarding ACC legislation and related matters

have you allan not the ability to source ones topic as posted , as in researching the legislation ,,,,,,, and those knowldgeable members whom once did participate , or were banned ,,,,,,,,may have been the the inputs as answering the above topic ,,,,,,,,,,,,, :D
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 03:29 PM

View Posttommy, on 21 October 2019 - 03:25 PM, said:

have you allan not the ability to source ones topic as posted , as in researching the legislation ,,,,,,, and those knowldgeable members whom once did participate , or were banned ,,,,,,,,may have been the the inputs as answering the above topic ,,,,,,,,,,,,, :D/>/>

rerseaching legislation ,,,,,,,,,is a skilled and time consuming activity ,,,,,,,,,,,,and to the commoner with no skills one does need a researcher ,,,,,,,and at what cost ,,,,,,,,,,
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 03:59 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 21 October 2019 - 10:30 AM, said:

Although you are not of topic, you are off point.
The point of this thread is not to discuss workaround solutions but rather the discussion should address the point of law. What is the criteria described in law. Too many people are so easily led by the ACC who successfully direct people like you to make a big noise in order to persuade others to act in a similar pattern of behaviour. Many claimants have had the experience of dealing with ACC decision-makers who behave like you

you appear to be noise maker allan ,,,,,,,,,,,,,and to such matters where your claim is still not settled ,,,where are you at is a response from the corporation as in such matters :rolleyes:
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Posted 21 October 2019 - 04:02 PM

View Posttommy, on 21 October 2019 - 03:59 PM, said:

you appear to be noise maker allan ,,,,,,,,,,,,,and to such matters where your claim is still not settled ,,,where are you at is a response from the corporation as in such matters :rolleyes:/>

the bomb plot would have if accomplished would of been a big noise ,,,,allan ,,,,, :rolleyes:
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