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Earnings compensation calculation based on capacity to work or capacity to earn?

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calculation for earnings compensation based on loss of capacity to work

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calculation for earnings compensation based on loss of capacity to earn

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#1 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 15 October 2019 - 12:54 PM

There seems to be a lot of confusion between ACC staff members and various decision-makers as to the legislated criteria for the purposes of determining the criteria of when earnings compensation is payable.

Can anyone please turn to the actual legislation for this purpose?

Has the criteria changed over the years?

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#2 User is offline   Hemi 

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Posted 15 October 2019 - 03:05 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 October 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

There seems to be a lot of confusion between ACC staff members and various decision-makers as to the legislated criteria for the purposes of determining the criteria of when earnings compensation is payable.

Can anyone please turn to the actual legislation for this purpose?

Has the criteria changed over the years?

Could you Provide in documented case management form about this confusion you speak of.
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#3 User is offline   tommy 

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Posted 15 October 2019 - 03:26 PM

View PostHemi, on 15 October 2019 - 03:05 PM, said:

Could you Provide in documented case management form about this confusion you speak of.

produce the factual taxable IRD , earnings , as in the claimants overall earnings would be starting point ,,,,, :rolleyes:
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#4 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 15 October 2019 - 03:44 PM

View PostHemi, on 15 October 2019 - 03:05 PM, said:

Could you Provide in documented case management form about this confusion you speak of.


If you don't know anything about this problem you don't need to participate in this discussion
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#5 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 15 October 2019 - 03:45 PM

View Posttommy, on 15 October 2019 - 03:26 PM, said:

produce the factual taxable IRD , earnings , as in the claimants overall earnings would be starting point ,,,,, Posted Image

By your comments
It seems that you don't understand this topic.

If you don't know anything about this problem you don't need to participate in this discussion
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#6 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 15 October 2019 - 04:46 PM

View Posttommy, on 15 October 2019 - 03:50 PM, said:

provide the relevant , ird taxable earnings , as in incomes ,,,,,,allan ,,,,,,,,


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#7 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 15 October 2019 - 04:47 PM

View Posttommy, on 15 October 2019 - 04:01 PM, said:

have you a relevant case towards the corporation as in such matters ,,,,allan Posted Image/>


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#8 User is offline   Hemi 

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Posted 15 October 2019 - 06:40 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 October 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

There seems to be a lot of confusion between ACC staff members and various decision-makers as to the legislated criteria for the purposes of determining the criteria of when earnings compensation is payable.

Can anyone please turn to the actual legislation for this purpose?

Has the criteria changed over the years?



View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 October 2019 - 03:44 PM, said:

If you don't know anything about this problem you don't need to participate in this discussion

Not for you to decide who partakes in here thomas
Unlike you Thomas, All entitlements in hand so I have the experience knowledge of receiving compensation based on loss of capacity to work thus loss of capacity to earn with no confusion abounding.
I asked for details as your information is far to vague.
You want answers then describe the problem with proper factual evidence of these so called confusions.
No capacity to have Earnings from work
No capacity to Work for earnings

What’s the difference anyway. and your asking for help
Criteria is simple
You are fully unfit to work,or fit for part time work.
Or your not injured and can continue at your work.
Which raises the issue of other ways acc set to and gauge the criteria To entitlements so they can be denied in total of which I doubt your aware of.
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Posted 15 October 2019 - 06:48 PM

View Posttommy, on 15 October 2019 - 04:01 PM, said:

have you a relevant case towards the corporation as in such matters ,,,,allan :rolleyes:/>/>/>

First question most would think of
Tommy asked and That’s what I’ve asked.
Must be evidence of this alleged confusion



Stop being a bully and picking on those you don’t like Thomas.
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#10 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 10:58 AM

View Posttommy, on 15 October 2019 - 04:52 PM, said:

can allan post up to dates as in ones erc , wc entitlements being restored ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


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#11 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 10:59 AM

View PostHemi, on 15 October 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

Not for you to decide who partakes in here thomas
Unlike you Thomas, All entitlements in hand so I have the experience knowledge of receiving compensation based on loss of capacity to work thus loss of capacity to earn with no confusion abounding.
I asked for details as your information is far to vague.
You want answers then describe the problem with proper factual evidence of these so called confusions.
No capacity to have Earnings from work
No capacity to Work for earnings

What’s the difference anyway. and your asking for help
Criteria is simple
You are fully unfit to work,or fit for part time work.
Or your not injured and can continue at your work.
Which raises the issue of other ways acc set to and gauge the criteria To entitlements so they can be denied in total of which I doubt your aware of.


As the nature of the terminology and issues are beyond your capacity of understanding there is not much point in entertaining your ramblings.

If you would like to participate with this Topic you will need to refer yourself to the ACC legislation and come back and Contribute something meaningful

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#12 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 11:00 AM

View PostHemi, on 15 October 2019 - 06:48 PM, said:

First question most would think of
Tommy asked and That’s what I’ve asked.
Must be evidence of this alleged confusion



Stop being a bully and picking on those you don’t like Thomas.


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#13 User is offline   Hemi 

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Posted 17 October 2019 - 08:04 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 17 October 2019 - 11:00 AM, said:

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Mmm? Great coming from you the acc corps biggest trouble maker this forum has ever had

At least the regular detailed reports on you go to those who care Thomas and not to someone hiding away like a weasel.
Mind you googles got that person well out there for what they really are and you,well your well shown up out there as well
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Posted 18 October 2019 - 06:54 AM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 17 October 2019 - 10:58 AM, said:

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Alan Thomas reporting people for trouble making, that's rich.

You are the biggest trouble maker on this forum by a long shot.

https://www.nzherald...jectid=10740850
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Posted 18 October 2019 - 12:41 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 15 October 2019 - 12:54 PM, said:

There seems to be a lot of confusion between ACC staff members and various decision-makers as to the legislated criteria for the purposes of determining the criteria of when earnings compensation is payable.

Can anyone please turn to the actual legislation for this purpose?

Has the criteria changed over the years?



Fraudster, you speculate that there seems to be a lot of confusion between ACC staff members and various decision-makers as to the legislated criteria for the purposes of determining the criteria of when earnings compensation is payable.

What leads you to believe such confusion exists?

It seems that this is an opinion held by yourself only, please let us know more details, others have asked you to clarify, and you have wrongfully reported them for asking.





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#16 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 12:57 PM

View Posttommy, on 17 October 2019 - 05:00 PM, said:

where as in the corporation accepting your claim as in being valid ,,allan ,, and such then the matters of erc calculations, being finalised as in a payout ……as in lost entitlements


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#17 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 12:58 PM

View PostHemi, on 17 October 2019 - 08:04 PM, said:

Reported
Mmm? Great coming from you the acc corps biggest trouble maker this forum has ever had

At least the regular detailed reports on you go to those who care Thomas and not to someone hiding away like a weasel.
Mind you googles got that person well out there for what they really are and you,well your well shown up out there as well


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#18 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 12:59 PM

View PostBrucey, on 18 October 2019 - 06:54 AM, said:

Alan Thomas reporting people for trouble making, that's rich.

You are the biggest trouble maker on this forum by a long shot.

https://www.nzherald...jectid=10740850


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#19 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 01:00 PM

View PostBrucey, on 18 October 2019 - 12:41 PM, said:

Fraudster, you speculate that there seems to be a lot of confusion between ACC staff members and various decision-makers as to the legislated criteria for the purposes of determining the criteria of when earnings compensation is payable.

What leads you to believe such confusion exists?

It seems that this is an opinion held by yourself only, please let us know more details, others have asked you to clarify, and you have wrongfully reported them for asking.







This opinion is held by the judges of New Zealand who have ruled on such matters..

So the courts of New Zealand are in agreement with me that the ACC are inconsistent with their decision-making processes.

Inconsistency would not exist if the ACC were obedient to the legislated criteria.

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Posted 18 October 2019 - 01:07 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 18 October 2019 - 01:00 PM, said:

This opinion is held by the judges of New Zealand who have ruled on such matters..

So the courts of New Zealand are in agreement with me that the ACC are inconsistent with their decision-making processes.

Inconsistency would not exist if the ACC were obedient to the legislated criteria.



Can you references some cases please.?
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