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severed Iliotibial band but assessed as 1% impairment Assesseed as 1% impaired even though I have a partly severed IT band

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Posted 02 October 2019 - 03:18 PM

Hi Guys,

I just received my letter from ACC today stating that I was not impaired enough to receive a lump-sum. I am confused by this. I received a stab-wound to my left lateral thigh and have a severed iliotibial band as a result. In the lump-sum impairment information pack "severe damage to ligaments of the kneee" is rated 10% impairment and given $3294.65.
I have reported experiencing deadness in my leg, tightness in my lower back, dull deep ache in my buttocks and I am no longer able to go for the 30-45minute runs that I once was. In order for me to maintain a level of comfort and be able to stand on my feet all day working as a Chef, I spend approximately 5hours a week practicing restorative yoga at home. I also know that frequent trips to my osteopath helps to relieve the fascial aches and tightness. The osteopath costs 40bucks per treatment and my osteopath reckons that I will need ongoing treatment until, well, forever.

I am unsure as to what my next step is. The assessor documented "nil" in absolutely every measurement "internal rotation, flexion , extension" for example. This is due to the fact that I spend hours every week on self-therapy, thus my flexibility is ok because I havent allowed my tissues to atrophy as much as they would If i didnt do any self-treatment. I feel confused as to how a severed IT band cannot be labelled as an impairment. I feel like if I did no self-therapy and if i didnt spend a small fortune on an osteopath every year, the result of my assessment might be different. I feel that it is highly unfair that I am not considered impaired because i spend a lot of time and money on my own therapy instead of just allowing my injury to quickly sabotage the comfort I feel in my body.

Should I get assessed by a physiotherapist or an osteopath? ie somebody who is more knowledgeable on the actual impact my injury has on the wider-tensegrity structure of my body as well as organs (I have more painful periods and experience a worsening of symptoms when I am not attending osteopathic treatment regularly)? Any advice or details of specialists would be greatly appreciated.

Thankyou to anyone who takes the time to read this and make any inputs,

L
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Posted 02 October 2019 - 05:24 PM

 L369, on 02 October 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Hi Guys,

I just received my letter from ACC today stating that I was not impaired enough to receive a lump-sum. I am confused by this. I received a stab-wound to my left lateral thigh and have a severed iliotibial band as a result. In the lump-sum impairment information pack "severe damage to ligaments of the kneee" is rated 10% impairment and given $3294.65.
I have reported experiencing deadness in my leg, tightness in my lower back, dull deep ache in my buttocks and I am no longer able to go for the 30-45minute runs that I once was. In order for me to maintain a level of comfort and be able to stand on my feet all day working as a Chef, I spend approximately 5hours a week practicing restorative yoga at home. I also know that frequent trips to my osteopath helps to relieve the fascial aches and tightness. The osteopath costs 40bucks per treatment and my osteopath reckons that I will need ongoing treatment until, well, forever.

I am unsure as to what my next step is. The assessor documented "nil" in absolutely every measurement "internal rotation, flexion , extension" for example. This is due to the fact that I spend hours every week on self-therapy, thus my flexibility is ok because I havent allowed my tissues to atrophy as much as they would If i didnt do any self-treatment. I feel confused as to how a severed IT band cannot be labelled as an impairment. I feel like if I did no self-therapy and if i didnt spend a small fortune on an osteopath every year, the result of my assessment might be different. I feel that it is highly unfair that I am not considered impaired because i spend a lot of time and money on my own therapy instead of just allowing my injury to quickly sabotage the comfort I feel in my body.

Should I get assessed by a physiotherapist or an osteopath? ie somebody who is more knowledgeable on the actual impact my injury has on the wider-tensegrity structure of my body as well as organs (I have more painful periods and experience a worsening of symptoms when I am not attending osteopathic treatment regularly)? Any advice or details of specialists would be greatly appreciated.

Thankyou to anyone who takes the time to read this and make any inputs,

L


you should be assessed by a medical professional as opposed to those who have not gone to medical school. Without the correct assessment and prognosis from the relevantly qualified professional you can get nowhere. The ACC just love it when those who are injured go to these so-called alternative providers. they even keep some themselves as pets.

Your general practitioner should have arranged for an appointment with a relevantly qualified medical professional to document the full extent of your injury along with a treatment plan. If the senior medical professional recommends physiotherapy or something similar will then that would be a supplementary treatment that the ACC would also have to pay for.
Critically speaking physiotherapist or other alternative practitioners are unable to reconstruct ruptured tissues and such like and as such they are not going to make you better but rather more comfortable yet poorer.

A relevantly qualified professional would be a general practitioner having muscular skeletal supplementary qualifications who would then send you onto the relevant limb surgeon. Have you considered surgery?

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Posted 02 October 2019 - 05:40 PM

L369
You have stated that " I received a stab-wound to my left lateral thigh and have a severed iliotibial band as a result." Which leaves me somewhat confused as to the nature of the diagnosis. If you had a severed iliotibial band did you have surgery to have it reattached?
from such a diagnosis it's doubtful that you would be able to stand and walk.


By any chance has someone replaced your diagnosis with the words " iliotibial band syndrome" which is more along the lines of a strain injury? if that were the case you may have received compensation for a strain injury rather than stab wound resulting in a severed muscular skeletal element which is absolutely required for normal living and working.
By any chance did the assessor determine whether or not you were able to properly lock the knee into position when standing.. I say this because without a properly functioning iliotibial band you may not be able to do this safely. For example if you were to lift heavy pot of boiling oil and then rotate your hips away from for example a bench there is a very good chance you're going to fall over.
Are you able to disclose the name of the qualification of the ACC assessor? I ask this because legislation requires that the assessor be appropriately qualified for the assessment. More likely than not they weren't properly qualified and as such you can have the assessment set aside.







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Posted 02 October 2019 - 07:06 PM

 L369, on 02 October 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Hi Guys,

I just received my letter from ACC today stating that I was not impaired enough to receive a lump-sum. I am confused by this. I received a stab-wound to my left lateral thigh and have a severed iliotibial band as a result. In the lump-sum impairment information pack "severe damage to ligaments of the kneee" is rated 10% impairment and given $3294.65.
I have reported experiencing deadness in my leg, tightness in my lower back, dull deep ache in my buttocks and I am no longer able to go for the 30-45minute runs that I once was. In order for me to maintain a level of comfort and be able to stand on my feet all day working as a Chef, I spend approximately 5hours a week practicing restorative yoga at home. I also know that frequent trips to my osteopath helps to relieve the fascial aches and tightness. The osteopath costs 40bucks per treatment and my osteopath reckons that I will need ongoing treatment until, well, forever.

I am unsure as to what my next step is. The assessor documented "nil" in absolutely every measurement "internal rotation, flexion , extension" for example. This is due to the fact that I spend hours every week on self-therapy, thus my flexibility is ok because I havent allowed my tissues to atrophy as much as they would If i didnt do any self-treatment. I feel confused as to how a severed IT band cannot be labelled as an impairment. I feel like if I did no self-therapy and if i didnt spend a small fortune on an osteopath every year, the result of my assessment might be different. I feel that it is highly unfair that I am not considered impaired because i spend a lot of time and money on my own therapy instead of just allowing my injury to quickly sabotage the comfort I feel in my body.

Should I get assessed by a physiotherapist or an osteopath? ie somebody who is more knowledgeable on the actual impact my injury has on the wider-tensegrity structure of my body as well as organs (I have more painful periods and experience a worsening of symptoms when I am not attending osteopathic treatment regularly)? Any advice or details of specialists would be greatly appreciated.

Thankyou to anyone who takes the time to read this and make any inputs,

L
it appears you have a capacity to try to help your. injury status and such the corporation is in the belief , wait till all fails , as in the injury decline ….nothing has changed as the national acc insurer then deciding if other avenues , are explorable .. ie social . vocational rehab ,,,,,,,,,,,,, :rolleyes:
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Posted 02 October 2019 - 07:10 PM

 Alan Thomas, on 02 October 2019 - 05:40 PM, said:

L369
You have stated that " I received a stab-wound to my left lateral thigh and have a severed iliotibial band as a result." Which leaves me somewhat confused as to the nature of the diagnosis. If you had a severed iliotibial band did you have surgery to have it reattached?
from such a diagnosis it's doubtful that you would be able to stand and walk.


By any chance has someone replaced your diagnosis with the words " iliotibial band syndrome" which is more along the lines of a strain injury? if that were the case you may have received compensation for a strain injury rather than stab wound resulting in a severed muscular skeletal element which is absolutely required for normal living and working.
By any chance did the assessor determine whether or not you were able to properly lock the knee into position when standing.. I say this because without a properly functioning iliotibial band you may not be able to do this safely. For example if you were to lift heavy pot of boiling oil and then rotate your hips away from for example a bench there is a very good chance you're going to fall over.
Are you able to disclose the name of the qualification of the ACC assessor? I ask this because legislation requires that the assessor be appropriately qualified for the assessment. More likely than not they weren't properly qualified and as such you can have the assessment set aside.









For a person with no medical qualifications at all, you assume much fraudster.

Alan Thomas, always looking for an angle, always looking to wind people up against ACC, a dangerous and evil man.


https://www.nzherald...jectid=10740850
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Posted 02 October 2019 - 07:14 PM

 Brucey, on 02 October 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

For a person with no medical qualifications at all, you assume much fraudster.

Alan Thomas, always looking for an angle, always looking to wind people up against ACC, a dangerous and evil man.


https://www.nzherald...jectid=10740850

allan must report back in a timely manner, as such erc , wc matters , of lost entitlements being restored ,,,,, :rolleyes:
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:27 AM

View PostBrucey, on 02 October 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

For a person with no medical qualifications at all, you assume much fraudster.

Alan Thomas, always looking for an angle, always looking to wind people up against ACC, a dangerous and evil man.


https://www.nzherald...jectid=10740850

Therin your words bruce lay the “means” that Thomas’s legal said he never had.<refer to your herald publication<.
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 07:54 AM

 L369, on 02 October 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Hi Guys,

I just received my letter from ACC today stating that I was not impaired enough to receive a lump-sum. I am confused by this. I received a stab-wound to my left lateral thigh and have a severed iliotibial band as a result. In the lump-sum impairment information pack "severe damage to ligaments of the kneee" is rated 10% impairment and given $3294.65.
I have reported experiencing deadness in my leg, tightness in my lower back, dull deep ache in my buttocks and I am no longer able to go for the 30-45minute runs that I once was. In order for me to maintain a level of comfort and be able to stand on my feet all day working as a Chef, I spend approximately 5hours a week practicing restorative yoga at home. I also know that frequent trips to my osteopath helps to relieve the fascial aches and tightness. The osteopath costs 40bucks per treatment and my osteopath reckons that I will need ongoing treatment until, well, forever.

I am unsure as to what my next step is. The assessor documented "nil" in absolutely every measurement "internal rotation, flexion , extension" for example. This is due to the fact that I spend hours every week on self-therapy, thus my flexibility is ok because I havent allowed my tissues to atrophy as much as they would If i didnt do any self-treatment. I feel confused as to how a severed IT band cannot be labelled as an impairment. I feel like if I did no self-therapy and if i didnt spend a small fortune on an osteopath every year, the result of my assessment might be different. I feel that it is highly unfair that I am not considered impaired because i spend a lot of time and money on my own therapy instead of just allowing my injury to quickly sabotage the comfort I feel in my body.

Should I get assessed by a physiotherapist or an osteopath? ie somebody who is more knowledgeable on the actual impact my injury has on the wider-tensegrity structure of my body as well as organs (I have more painful periods and experience a worsening of symptoms when I am not attending osteopathic treatment regularly)? Any advice or details of specialists would be greatly appreciated.

Thankyou to anyone who takes the time to read this and make any inputs,

L


Congratulations on making such a good recovery, and taking the initiative to take charge of your own rehab.

I would suggest if you have any concerns about the assessment that you raise them with your GP, who is a trained medical professional familiar with your injuries, and see what he or she has to say on the matter. I would not take any advice from Alan Thomas, a twice convicted criminal with a vendetta against ACC.

https://www.nzherald...jectid=10740850
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 09:56 AM

 Brucey, on 02 October 2019 - 07:10 PM, said:

For a person with no medical qualifications at all, you assume much fraudster.

Alan Thomas, always looking for an angle, always looking to wind people up against ACC, a dangerous and evil man.


https://www.nzherald...jectid=10740850


you have an incredibly imaginative mind like your cohorts. Why don't you explore the real world by asking questions rather than imagining answers.
Pointing people towards the ACC legislation is in no way or form contrary to the national good.

People like you who are so easily seduced by those who have an evil intent and out being just as dangerous to society.
As for this article you are off topic

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 09:57 AM

 tommy, on 02 October 2019 - 07:14 PM, said:

allan must report back in a timely manner, as such erc , wc matters , of lost entitlements being restored ,,,,, Posted Image


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Posted 03 October 2019 - 09:58 AM

 Brucey, on 03 October 2019 - 07:54 AM, said:

Congratulations on making such a good recovery, and taking the initiative to take charge of your own rehab.

I would suggest if you have any concerns about the assessment that you raise them with your GP, who is a trained medical professional familiar with your injuries, and see what he or she has to say on the matter. I would not take any advice from Alan Thomas, a twice convicted criminal with a vendetta against ACC.

https://www.nzherald...jectid=10740850


Please stop manipulating every single post into some kind of an attack against me in support of those who have made false accusations also against me.


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Posted 03 October 2019 - 10:17 AM

 Alan Thomas, on 03 October 2019 - 09:58 AM, said:

Please stop manipulating every single post into some kind of an attack against me in support of those who have made false accusations also against me.




I am not manipulating anything fraudster, your the expert at that.

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 10:47 AM

 Alan Thomas, on 03 October 2019 - 09:58 AM, said:

Please stop manipulating every single post into some kind of an attack against me in support of those who have made false accusations also against me.




Dont' turn this mans post in to yet another one of your rants, I do not manipulate anything, I just call it as it is.

Try your best to stay on topic.

This post is not about the mistakes you have made in your life.
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 11:02 AM

 Alan Thomas, on 03 October 2019 - 09:56 AM, said:

you have an incredibly imaginative mind like your cohorts. Why don't you explore the real world by asking questions rather than imagining answers.
Pointing people towards the ACC legislation is in no way or form contrary to the national good.

People like you who are so easily seduced by those who have an evil intent and out being just as dangerous to society.
As for this article you are off topic



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Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:20 PM

 Brucey, on 03 October 2019 - 10:17 AM, said:

I am not manipulating anything fraudster, your the expert at that.

https://www.nzherald...jectid=10740850


your postings don't have anything remotely relational to this thread.
You even assert the poster had recovered when quite clearly he is describing ongoing problems of a very significant nature.
You seem to be fixated on the ACC's point of view rather than the medical facts.
It seems to me that you are nothing short of an ACC toady supporter laughter than someone who seeks to their fellow injured claimant.
Quite probably you are not injured at all and are simply here to make mischief.

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 12:21 PM

 Brucey, on 03 October 2019 - 10:47 AM, said:

Dont' turn this mans post in to yet another one of your rants, I do not manipulate anything, I just call it as it is.

Try your best to stay on topic.

This post is not about the mistakes you have made in your life.


Read my posts, not your imagination and fixation.
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Posted 03 October 2019 - 03:18 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 03 October 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:

Read my posts, not your imagination and fixation.


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Posted 03 October 2019 - 04:19 PM

View PostBrucey, on 03 October 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Off topic.

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 04:20 PM

On topic is post numbers 2 & 3.
Why is it that anytime anybody comes to the site to get help you and your cohorts seek to destroy everything in sight?

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 04:35 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 03 October 2019 - 04:20 PM, said:

On topic is post numbers 2 & 3.
Why is it that anytime anybody comes to the site to get help you and your cohorts seek to destroy everything in sight?



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