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Date of claim Vs date of injury Sensitive Claim IA issues

#21 User is offline   MINI 

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Posted 15 August 2018 - 02:07 PM

View PostSunflower, on 14 August 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

Hi again.

Well on Friday the worst possible scenario happened. After a month of waiting for my IA rating to come back I learned that the IA trained Psychiatrist had decided that I should improve with time and currently my symptoms aren't stable enough to receive an allowance. I was distraught. The LOPE is not enough to live so so I am up to my eyeballs in debt. The backdated IA was going to give me a new start.

They asked a second IA trained psychiatrist (John Collier) to look over the first decision. He agreed that I am too unstable to get the IA.

I have cover for PTSD (complex), Somatic Symptom Disorder (complex) and Depression. The pressure of going through the IA process has exacerbated all those things. When I had the assessment I explained that I can't work, I'm socially isolated as I don't want people to see me like this and I am constantly unwell with physical symptoms linked to my stress.

I've had other PTSD related breakdowns over the decades but I've currently been experiencing severe symptoms since the end of 2015 when I lost my job which made me ill. It then took nine months of battling to receive the LOPE which made me ill. My weekly treatment with an ACC funded psychiatrist is bringing all sorts of previously buried emotion and distress to the surface, and that makes me ill.

So what is stable? How can I achieve stability? What should I do?


I know what I had to do..............I had to get one to one counselling via ACC. And pull my shorts up and get on with it. Anxiety I know is a lot different than depression, but one thing I have found they have in common, they can both be triggered by the wrong envioroment. Just packing the car getting ready to go on a trip can trigger anxiety. Not so much depression these days, but a lot of self control to keep it under control. I am sorry you missed out but they are the people who call the shots. I had Dr Codrye Auckland, he was such a help to me in even getting actions straight in my head as in for timing etc.

A thought, I read somewhere that if your income is not enough from ACC to live on you can get it topped up with WINZ. Look into this and your right to have assistance for disability from Winz as well. Just a Thought. Good Luck. Mini
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Posted 15 August 2018 - 06:57 PM

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I know what I had to do..............I had to get one to one counselling via ACC. And pull my shorts up and get on with it. Anxiety I know is a lot different than depression, but one thing I have found they have in common, they can both be triggered by the wrong envioroment. Just packing the car getting ready to go on a trip can trigger anxiety. Not so much depression these days, but a lot of self control to keep it under control. I am sorry you missed out but they are the people who call the shots. I had Dr Codrye Auckland, he was such a help to me in even getting actions straight in my head as in for timing etc.

A thought, I read somewhere that if your income is not enough from ACC to live on you can get it topped up with WINZ. Look into this and your right to have assistance for disability from Winz as well. Just a Thought. Good Luck. Mini
unfortunately , mini many have been exposed to this situation , and hence what could be a resolution to this problem , to ones incomes being drastically diminished , apart from then re insuring one from this situation
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Posted 15 August 2018 - 07:19 PM

injury income , ie acc derived income , may not meet , previous incomes from as in an established working situation , and one as many have experienced , disappointment , in such :rolleyes:/>
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 07:06 AM

View PostSunflower, on 14 August 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

Hi again.

Well on Friday the worst possible scenario happened. After a month of waiting for my IA rating to come back I learned that the IA trained Psychiatrist had decided that I should improve with time and currently my symptoms aren't stable enough to receive an allowance. I was distraught. The LOPE is not enough to live so so I am up to my eyeballs in debt. The backdated IA was going to give me a new start.

They asked a second IA trained psychiatrist (John Collier) to look over the first decision. He agreed that I am too unstable to get the IA.

I have cover for PTSD (complex), Somatic Symptom Disorder (complex) and Depression. The pressure of going through the IA process has exacerbated all those things. When I had the assessment I explained that I can't work, I'm socially isolated as I don't want people to see me like this and I am constantly unwell with physical symptoms linked to my stress.

I've had other PTSD related breakdowns over the decades but I've currently been experiencing severe symptoms since the end of 2015 when I lost my job which made me ill. It then took nine months of battling to receive the LOPE which made me ill. My weekly treatment with an ACC funded psychiatrist is bringing all sorts of previously buried emotion and distress to the surface, and that makes me ill.

So what is stable? How can I achieve stability? What should I do?


Dr Collier and Dr Reeves are not good to deal with and shunned by claimants wherever possible. They seem to be mostly "peer reviewing" WPI claims where they can inflict their opinions whilst being mostly immune to challenge.
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Posted 16 August 2018 - 01:08 PM

Upon advice I've decided to not use this forum. Thanks for your time
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Posted 17 August 2018 - 11:29 AM

View PostSunflower, on 16 August 2018 - 01:08 PM, said:

Gosh there is so much to say.

Firstly - 'pulling up my shorts' and getting on with it is something I have been doing my whole adult life. I have had years and years of therapy of different types over the decades and currently have really good quality ACC funded therapy twice a week. When I was younger I tried to rebuild my life, went to Uni, started a specialist professional career and managed to earn a really good income in the roles I gained. However - whenever my PTSD kicked in I had to leave the role and spend time getting over the meltdown. So over the past 3 years I have gone from being able to earn $40 an hour to receiving a LOPE of $420 a week. But even for that I am grateful to ACC that I get anything at all.

In fact, I've been told time and time again that what I have acheived is amazing when considering my background. However- that has been said during times when I haven't been affected by my mental injury. And my last breakdown has been more extreme and longer lasting than ever before. Maybe it is because my kids have left home so I am no longer in survival mode and my brain and body finally has the time to collapse and express all of the stress I have been carrying for so long. My body is very very physically ill due to my somatic symptom disorder. I've had years of steroids and even a year of immunosuppressants (oral chemotherapy) to try and combat the chronic inflammation in my body. But nothing has worked and I am left with damage in my organs (from inflammation) and chronic illness that is now put down to somatic symptom disorder.

So it's not just about PTSD anxiety. Anxiety can be dealt with by drugs. But when I get triggered by stressors my joints swell, all sorts of neuralgic issues flare up and anaphylaxis happens in my gastric system and sometimes I end up in hospital. I wish that 'pulling up my shorts' would deal with those symptoms but it won't. My stress hormones have crapped out due to years of hypervigilance. Stress makes my mast cells go into overdrive and I get seriously ill. Luckily ACC has added somatic symptom disorder into my claim. So I get help for it now.

I realise that an IA isn't going to change my life hugely. But I have tried SO HARD to get over the first 20 years of my life and now, at middle age, my brain and body have said 'no more pushing'. Getting an IA is important to be because it acknowledges that my failure to thrive isn't of my own doing. Other people did this to me - it's not that I am simply a f^#&^-up.

I very much appreciate the kind advice and especially the links to similar cases. And thanks in advance for treading gently with me - because I am in a really delicate and vulnerable position right now and it makes me very sensitive to comments that seem a little harsh or confrontational.

Thanks.


If so little makes you sensitive as little harsh or confrontational. You should be no where near this site. It is not known for lack of either of the harsh or confrontational.

I have been lied about as in ripping off my employer etc. By one in here you have been speaking to that has actually had jail for ripping ACC off.


You don't know who you speak too when you come on here, but this is certainly no a sensitive persons site to visit. Ask Lupine. Cassandra your best one for that.

It is a figure of speech so to speak and I couldn't thing of any nice way of we have to get on with life. Am sorry you are so sick, but some of us are old and may not have long to go. We just hitch up our tweeds and get on with it. It is neither harsh nor confrontational.

And it worked well with my boys. They don't find me harsh nor confrontational, but if they do they will let me know in a genuine way that I have hurt there feelings. Usually because they have never told me the full story to begin with.

My advice to you is not be around this site. Go to Lupine and Cassandra. Sensitive persons are welcome there and I know that he will see you thru. Because he is nice and caring of everyone.


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