ACCforum: FIT FOR WORK .. sending unfit people back to work? - ACCforum

Jump to content

  • 8 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • Last »
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

FIT FOR WORK .. sending unfit people back to work? Is this a lucrative industry?

#1 User is offline   He who pays the piper 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 5633
  • Joined: 20-June 16

Posted 10 August 2016 - 09:32 AM

Taking a look at the website profile of FIT FOR WORK and this is what you will find.

The organisation claims that it is "helping people to return to work".

It presents itself as a credible organisation, an OCCUPATIONAL MEDICAL SPECIALIST service operating throughout new Zealand. It advertises for people to fill its vacancies within the offices of CROMWELL, CHRISTCHURCH, WELLINGTON and an intended AUCKLAND.

I guess they've seen a massive opportunity to serve the needs of ACC throughout this country, recognising of course, the huge hourly rates that ACC are willing to pay them if they serve their specific needs of cheating people out of their fair injury insurance entitlement under this Government run scheme.

Lets have a look at the people involved here, most of whom have spent time or come from the UK. In other words POM's.

DR DAVID BEAUMONT .. CEO and MEDICAL DIRECTOR
DR NICHOLAS YARNALL
DR ANDREW HILLIARD
DR RUPERT HALL-SMITH
DR SCOTT NEWBURN
DR MARY HOLDEN
DR IAN GOURLAY

I think we should update this list as this business grows so that ACC injury victims can be well warned.

As already evidenced on this forum, my very good friend DR ANDREW HILLIARD from the above list is also "double dipping" as a BRANCH MEDICAL ADVISOR for ACC and was recently active in a DISTRICT COURT case against just one of ACC's many victims.

Apparently, ACC is making that much money out of our POLICY PREMIUMS that they can well afford the services of FIT FOR WORK who are "helping people to return to work" whether it be on crutches, whether you suffer from severe pain, whether you are mentally impaired, whether you are still awaiting surgery ..

.. just as long as you can breathe. :blink:/>

[As an aside, in my very straight forward injury case, I have the evidence of ill-conceived reports from both DR ANDREW HILLIARD and the CEO of this outfit, DR DAVID BEAUMONT. The outcomes of DR HILLIARD's report and responses are now subject to complaints to several authorities, but not through the usual channels.]
0

#2 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8730
  • Joined: 10-June 06

Posted 10 August 2016 - 09:46 AM

Could we get an ACCForum MEDICAL ADVISOR?
0

#3 User is offline   not their victim 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 10829
  • Joined: 04-August 08

Posted 10 August 2016 - 09:51 AM

Nope...

The forum is officially munted. .

Every thread is bogged with Alan Thomas interpretation of what he assumes he is entitled to plus BAD advice...

The only MD who could tackle such bagging would be a psychiatrist...
0

#4 User is offline   He who pays the piper 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 5633
  • Joined: 20-June 16

Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:00 AM

Oh no .. here we go again. :unsure:
0

#5 User is offline   He who pays the piper 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 5633
  • Joined: 20-June 16

Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:03 AM

The sad part of this FORUM is that while we have this bullshit going on between ALAN THOMAS and various factions who are stalking him, no-one of public professional standing would want to be part of the more constructive discussions here for fear of being tainted .. for being associated with a bunch of half-witted kids.

Grow up you lot!
0

#6 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8730
  • Joined: 10-June 06

Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:10 AM

View PostHe who pays the piper, on 10 August 2016 - 10:03 AM, said:

The sad part of this FORUM is that while we have this bullshit going on between ALAN THOMAS and various factions who are stalking him, no-one of public professional standing would want to be part of the more constructive discussions here for fear of being tainted .. for being associated with a bunch of half-witted kids.

Grow up you lot!


Should i BRING BACK MY OLD SITE
0

#7 User is offline   not their victim 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 10829
  • Joined: 04-August 08

Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:18 AM

Nope....

Alan Thomas blogs all threads with his bad advice, his version of the law etc

And abuses all and sundry...

As you are purportedly a "newbie"..who has taken over the front page of the forum, without actually reading the threads that aren't tainted by Thomas,s demented ramblings

Then I, and those others who actually CARE ABOUT THE INJURED...will not allow Thomas to destroy any more lives...or waste court time

He was convicted twice for ripping off the acc and a bomb plot to kill acc workers, injured people in the building sorting out their issues lawfully, and best of all...he was going to SACRIFICE A FRIEND WHO WAS GOING TO BE DRIVING THE TRUCK...

if you are are going to buy into Thomas,s bullshit, without knowing his history and why he is permanently trespassed from any acc building, plus sent to remote claims; again for inherent abuse

The truth is the truth...and sadly Alan doesn't appear to be able to able to stick to one version of "his truth" in any of his posts
1

#8 User is offline   not their victim 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 10829
  • Joined: 04-August 08

Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:21 AM

Ps...even an infamous justice campaigner ditched Alans case

And the campaigner normally gets to the heart of the truth as he is very astute at sorting the chaff from the wheat

He found Alan Thomas was a liar
1

#9 User is offline   He who pays the piper 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 5633
  • Joined: 20-June 16

Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:25 AM

The biggest "LIARS" around here are ACC and their affiliated service providers.

let's not worry about ALAN, even if he does have a tendency to stretch the truth.

So move on NTV.

Grow up.

Focus on the ball please.
-1

#10 User is offline   not their victim 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 10829
  • Joined: 04-August 08

Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:39 AM

Already have

Why do you think acc fought so hard against me

I have already provided all RELEVANT INFORMATION IN HOW TO TRUTHFULLY SHOVE THE LEGISLATION BACK AT ACC...

I suggest you use the search engine

And no....I won't stop challenging the lies perpetuated here

Its damaging to other injured claimants

Stretching the truth lol....that's not what the justice campaigner said hahaha

He's a clever Bastid is the campaigner, he's got big balls!
0

#11 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8730
  • Joined: 10-June 06

Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:45 AM

View PostHe who pays the piper, on 10 August 2016 - 10:25 AM, said:

The biggest "LIARS" around here are ACC and their affiliated service providers.

let's not worry about ALAN, even if he does have a tendency to stretch the truth.

So move on NTV.

Grow up.

Focus on the ball please.



, even if he does have a tendency to stretch the truth.


WHAT?
Just one or withdraw the accusation
0

#12 User is offline   not their victim 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 10829
  • Joined: 04-August 08

Posted 10 August 2016 - 10:48 AM

Already have

Why do you think acc fought so hard against me

I have already provided all RELEVANT INFORMATION IN HOW TO TRUTHFULLY SHOVE THE LEGISLATION BACK AT ACC...

I suggest you use the search engine

And no....I won't stop challenging the lies perpetuated here

Its damaging to other injured claimants

Stretching the truth lol....that's not what the justice campaigner said hahaha

He's a clever Bastid is the campaigner, he's got big balls!
0

#13 User is offline   He who pays the piper 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 5633
  • Joined: 20-June 16

Posted 10 August 2016 - 11:35 AM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 10 August 2016 - 10:45 AM, said:


, even if he does have a tendency to stretch the truth.


WHAT?
Just one or withdraw the accusation


Stretching the truth is no crime.

Telling lies is.

No withdrawal required.
0

#14 User is offline   Lupine 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1574
  • Joined: 28-June 08

Posted 10 August 2016 - 11:45 AM

View PostHe who pays the piper, on 10 August 2016 - 11:35 AM, said:

Stretching the truth is no crime.

Telling lies is.

No withdrawal required.


I just had an idea.

I think that you should ask Alan to take on your claim for you Piper. Then you will get the chance to find out one way or the other.

The two of you could take yourselves off and concentrate your efforts against ACC and then you could both return, flush with victory and ready to put all of us lesser lights in our place.

What do you say?
3

#15 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8730
  • Joined: 10-June 06

Posted 10 August 2016 - 12:00 PM

View PostHe who pays the piper, on 10 August 2016 - 11:35 AM, said:

Stretching the truth is no crime.

Telling lies is.

No withdrawal required.


Please give me one instance where you feel I have "stretched the truth"
by the way stretching the truth is lying and in the context of the discussion on this site is about falsifying information and committing fraud which is certainly lying. As you can expect I am extremely sensitive given that I have spent a lifetime diligently and "religiously" adhering to the truth. I am highly offended when anyone accuses me of deviating from the strictness of truth. Those around me and my past even referred to me as being Spock like (of Star Trek) in as much as I never got all emotional and I always told the truth when all around me were screaming like banshees.
0

#16 User is offline   Alan Thomas 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 8730
  • Joined: 10-June 06

Posted 10 August 2016 - 12:16 PM

View PostLupine, on 10 August 2016 - 11:45 AM, said:

I just had an idea.

I think that you should ask Alan to take on your claim for you Piper. Then you will get the chance to find out one way or the other.

The two of you could take yourselves off and concentrate your efforts against ACC and then you could both return, flush with victory and ready to put all of us lesser lights in our place.

What do you say?


This site was never set up for people to aggressively compete with one another so I for one would not become embroiled in your nonsense.
The person who is concerned about those who pay the piper has been making horrific efforts to try and contribute and also benefit from the site in the manner that the site was intended.
No reasonable person expect to be correct or perfect all of the time.
Anybody who does think they are perfect all the time or think that someone else is wrong all the time is clearly suffering from a quite a significant delusional disjoint from the world.
All competent advocates having expressed with the ACC and up through the judiciary will be able to confirm that no matter how perfect a submission may be and how correct the cause may be by no means as a follow that there will be a ruling in their favour as the system itself is also in perfect which is the reason why we have an appeal process. Judges who make mistakes recognise that they make mistakes from time to time and are glad of the corrections by the more knowledgeable higher courts and when before such judges next time round there is usually a nod and a wink the degree of politeness and respect.
0

#17 User is offline   not their victim 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 10829
  • Joined: 04-August 08

Posted 10 August 2016 - 12:54 PM

Brilliant idea Lupine

After all....Alan claims the site is to assist one another

He who pays the piper is showing how frustrated they are by "the system"

Alan could help as he has done advocacy work before as has been successful(his defended claim)
2

#18 User is offline   He who pays the piper 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 5633
  • Joined: 20-June 16

Posted 10 August 2016 - 05:30 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 10 August 2016 - 12:00 PM, said:

Please give me one instance where you feel I have "stretched the truth"
by the way stretching the truth is lying and in the context of the discussion on this site is about falsifying information and committing fraud which is certainly lying. As you can expect I am extremely sensitive given that I have spent a lifetime diligently and "religiously" adhering to the truth. I am highly offended when anyone accuses me of deviating from the strictness of truth. Those around me and my past even referred to me as being Spock like (of Star Trek) in as much as I never got all emotional and I always told the truth when all around me were screaming like banshees.


I didn't say you were a LIAR.

What I have suggested is that many of your friends consider that you 'do' tell lies when I prefer to think from my limited time here that your interpretation of 'some' things is a little different to others which might be reason why you are inclined to rake people up the wrong way.

I personally don't have a problem with you sometimes having a different interpretation which may appear to be a little stretch of the truth, because that's life as we know it.

We are all entitled to an opinion or view and I respect that.

But there is nothing more I hate than cronic LIARS .. and that is why I prefer to spend my energies on "dealing to them".

The scumbags of the ACC insurance industry, including their "scabs".
0

#19 User is offline   He who pays the piper 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 5633
  • Joined: 20-June 16

Posted 10 August 2016 - 05:34 PM

View PostLupine, on 10 August 2016 - 11:45 AM, said:

I just had an idea.

I think that you should ask Alan to take on your claim for you Piper. Then you will get the chance to find out one way or the other.

The two of you could take yourselves off and concentrate your efforts against ACC and that you could both return, flush with victory and ready to put all of us lesser lights in our place.

What do you say?


No thanks LUPINE.

I actually want to lose my DISTRICT COURT case unless the JUDGE assigned to my case is independent of influence which I understand is unlikely.

To be honest with you though LUPINE, I think I would rather take advice from ALAN than I would from you if what I have read here is anything to go by.

But thanks for the kind thought anyway.

Love PIPER XXXXXX
0

#20 User is offline   tommy 

  • Advanced Member
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1355
  • Joined: 21-September 05

Posted 10 August 2016 - 06:21 PM

spend 200 dollars allan and get your complications sorted with the corporation as in determining your injury status , or is that too expensive, to you as determining a result i beleive you do not want , explain again , if you choose
0

Share this topic:


  • 8 Pages +
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • Last »
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users