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Posted 17 May 2016 - 04:10 PM

Ministry of Social Development spokesperson Carl Crafar please be mindful that some motels do advertise that they offer long term accommodation however people need to be mindful they are not generally covered under The Residential Tenancy Act as clarification has been sought and a decision made through The Tenancy Tribunal to the benefit of others.

Some motels have been converted and operate as "Boarding House Tenancys" and are covered under the provisions of the Tenancy Act - Boarding House provisions.

Some motels have false and misleading billboards and advertising outside them that doesn't even belong to them to lure vulnerable persons to take up agreements and are subsequently found to be in breach of various laws.

We all need to be mindful that motels also have been known to have methamphetamine users and manufacturers etc who have occupied rooms in them that have never been cleaned to a required lawful standard.

We all need to be mindful motels/ hotels offering such accommodation will exploit vulnerable persons living in them and ask them to leave or bump up rates to overnight rates when they know that there's concerts, rugby/ cricket world cup etc events as they can profit greater from these situations to the detriment of vulnerable persons. some of these vulnerable persons may then end up homeless yet again which is not a wise solution.

Perhaps we need to look at the way some motels that could be used where they are not reaching maximum capacity are operating to help reduce gaps for longer term solutions.

Keep safe and tread carefully folks where ever you end up living as no one needs to end up with further health issues.

WINZ will do 'absolute best' to help homeless

12:36 pm today

People with housing problems should talk to Work and Income straight away - if possible even before they have to leave their homes - says a ministry spokesperson.


In March, 428 people across the country were recorded by WINZ as saying they were homeless. Photo: Supplied

Yesterday, Prime Minister John Key told RNZ that families sleeping in cars, garages and shipping containers should go to Work and Income for help.

Social workers on the frontlines of Auckland's housing crisis have said families with children are asking for help - but aren't getting it.

Ministry of Social Development spokesperson Carl Crafar
told Morning Report people should make contact as soon as possible.

"We'd like to get ahead of their issues becoming more acute than what they already are.

"So the first thing we try and do is see if we can help people maintain or retain their existing accommodation by addressing any requirements around rent or arrears or any issues with the house they're currently in."

If someone told Work and Income they were homeless, it would speak to emergency housing providers to get them a place, if one was available.

"People should approach us straight away so that we can look see what assistance we can provide.

"There's a number of things that we would do - we'd make referrals to existing emergency housing providers

"The second thing that we would do is that we would look to see if there's any short term accommodation that we can provide them such as motels or hotels."

-"We would do our absolute best to find everybody who needs accommodation, accommodation"- Carl Crafar on Morning Report 9 min 1 sec

Mr Crafar said a motel stay was limited to seven days but that should be enough time to sort out some sort of longer term housing.

But Labour Party leader Andrew Little doubted Work and Income could help people with serious housing needs.

He told Morning Report many had been to Work and Income and not received assistance.

"Many of them are in a state where, if they're living in a car or living in a garage with their kids, they've already been beaten down by the system.

"So simply saying 'trot on off to the nearest WINZ office and they'll get it sorted out' - it simply isn't going to happen."
"The government needs more housing" - Andrew Little on Morning Report 6 min 52 sec

Mr Little said the long-term solution was for the Government to provide more houses and, in the short term, Work and Income should work with all housing providers to find homes for people in serious need.

Latest figures from WINZ show 428 people across the country were recorded as saying they were homeless in the month of March.

However that figure is far too conservative, according to chief executive of advocacy group Lifewise, Moira Lawler.

She said there was a tidal wave of homelessness in Auckland that was too big for Work and Income, which was desperately under-resourced.

The reality was there were not enough places to shelter people and many would give up after waiting months or years for housing or for benefits to be approved.

"What is the point of putting yourself through that bureaucracy, the constant reporting, the constant turn-up, when if you're in Auckland you know they have nowhere to put you anyway?"

Ms Lawler said Work and Income staff could only put vulnerable people on lists and did not have the mandate to make sure they did not end up on the street.

"The whole system is at crisis"
Auckland housing: 'We've lost the plot'
Life in an overcrowded, cold home
Hundreds tell WINZ they're homeless

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Posted 29 May 2016 - 09:51 AM

Well this was predicted when they first brought in the Accommodation Supplement back in the early 90s.
Nothing changed and here we are.

We are allowing migration at the rate of Palmerston North (27K people) each year. WINZ is never
going to be a solution, only a temporary fix....if you are lucky enough not to be landed with
costs for emergency housing of 190/night.

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Posted 09 June 2016 - 03:33 PM

Some very good comments in the link in here

Mosgiel state homes for sale
Home » News » Dunedin
By Eileen Goodwin on Wed, 1 Jun 2016
News: Dunedin

Housing New Zealand is selling 30 state houses in Mosgiel because of "low ongoing demand'' for them.

The vacant houses are in Murray St, where the corporation owns 53 state houses. They will be sold on the open market.

HNZ confirmed the sell-off just days after Presbyterian Support Otago (PSO) said Dunedin had a growing homelessness problem.

Proceeds from the sales will be used in areas of greatest need for state housing, and will not necessarily be reinvested in the Dunedin area.

There are 64 vacant state houses in the greater Dunedin area, and of those, 16 are about to be tenanted.

As of March 31, 75 people in the Dunedin area were on the state house waiting list, Ministry of Social Development (MSD) figures show.

The corporation has been focused on dealing with the effects of methamphetamine use and manufacture in its properties in recent months, and some of the vacant homes in Dunedin were methamphetamine-contaminated, it said.

Asked how many of the Murray St homes were contaminated, the corporation said it would respond in due course under the Official Information Act.

Information on its website showed four methamphetamine-contaminated houses in the greater Dunedin area as at March 31.

None of the Dunedin houses had been used for manufacture.

Any affected home would be decontaminated before it was sold.

The total number of state houses for sale in greater Dunedin was unavailable, but the corporation had sold eight houses in Dunedin between May last year and April this year.

"The Ministry of Social Development assesses all social housing applicants, including refugee families resettling in New Zealand,'' a corporation spokesman said.

"During this process, all applicants are asked many questions, including the number of bedrooms they require and their preferred location.

"This information, supplied by MSD to Housing New Zealand and other social housing providers, clearly shows there is a lack of ongoing demand for the type and location of the properties identified for sale in Mosgiel.''.

The Otago Daily Times also asked for the rateable value of the houses, which the corporation said would be considered under the OIA. The corporation has not identified which houses on Murray St will be sold.

Many of the Murray St state houses are multi-unit, and one four-unit property had a capital value of $385,000 on the Dunedin City Council rates information database.

A single dwelling also owned by the corporation had a capital value of $160,000.

Dunedin South MP Clare Curran acknowledged Mosgiel's distance from educational facilities and social services made it unsuitable for some tenants.

But that did not mean HNZ should get rid of the Mosgiel houses, she said.

She believed the MSD was "manipulating'' the state house waiting list to make demand appear low.

"When they say the demand is not that great, or there's people who don't want to go and live in Mosgiel, they're making it harder for people to get HNZ houses,'' Ms Curran said.

Ms Curran said she understood the Murray St houses had been empty for a long time, and needed significant refurbishment.

"They are not in a good state ... Housing New Zealand has not invested in them,'' she said.

PSO Family Works practice manager Melanie McNatty, who spoke out last week in the Otago Daily Times about Dunedin's homelessness problem, also said the official state housing waiting list did not reflect demand.

"I don't think they should be [selling them] or if they are selling them, they should be buying them in other places [in the Dunedin area] where there is need.

"We certainly weren't aware that there was that number of empty houses sitting around the city.''

Many vulnerable people no longer qualified for state housing.

"We've got someone coming out of hospital and we don't know where they're going to go, and they're not going to be eligible for state housing,'' Ms McNatty said.

Speaking out in the ODT had been positive, as state housing officials were now working with PSO to improve the situation.

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Posted 09 June 2016 - 03:40 PM

They will need to ensure full background checks of anyone operating any motel are done and not rely on checks that were done on these people from the years where their character referees were not also checked to ensure they are indeed of scrupulous character.

What checks and balances will be done to ensure that those in need of such accommodation who are vulnerable and may be victims of assault, sexual or other are not been put in with those on parole, pedophiles and p users/ dealers etc?

Govt may bulk-book motels for homeless

Felix Marwick ,
Publish Date
Wednesday, 8 June 2016, 2:49PM


The Government is looking at potentially bulk-booking motel accommodation to provide shelter for homeless people during winter.

Social Housing Minister Paula Bennett said they're just looking at it at the moment, and said if they did take them on on a weekly basis they might be able to get a cheaper rate.

MORE: Central Auckland homeless population more than twice that of 2013

But she's not giving details on how many units might be rented at the moment.

"We are not really sure, we're just sort of going through that at the moment, but it's something we could potentially do relatively quickly so we're just going to work our way through that."

And Paula Bennett's got the sign off from the Prime Minister.

John Key said he thinks it "makes sense to do that, because ultimately we know there's certain demand there, and if they pre-purchase they get them at a better rate."

Meanwhile in Parliament Labour MP Phil Twyford and Paula Bennett are squaring off over comments the latter's made about homeless people in Auckland.

Ms Bennett has now acknowledged she gave the Prime Minister the wrong information when she told him homeless people had refused help when approached by MSD and NGO staff.

Mr Twyford said she clearly misled the Prime Minister.

"It's classic Paula Bennett, when she's in a tight spot her first instinct is always to blame the victim and try and turn it back - in this case on homeless people."

But Bennett argues her opponent is concentrating on the wrong thing, arguing that what's important is whether homeless people can access Government help.

"He seems far more caught up about me than the people who actually need help."

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