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Dangerous ACC Sensitive Claims Counsellor Beware of this Rotorua therapist

#41 User is offline   David Butler 

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:09 PM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 22 March 2016 - 10:16 AM, said:

it seems that you are forgetting this site has nothing to do with New Zealand laws.
This means that if you want any recourse from what anyone says about you you will need to deal with them directly and not try and place liability, culpability or incitement on anyone else. By the way how on earth could have admin been responsible for incitement anyway?


Whilst this thread has gone way off topic the debate is something of interest to me and should be of interest to all members.
Thomas claims continually to have NOTHING to do with the site or the running of it,and NO access to the server that works the site.
But alas Thomas continually comes in spouting as as if he is the almighty who conveys the information to all in here telling us what the he says is apparently fact
Now Thomas ,to show he is someone of importance as he Self Portrays to be ,and not just another nuncer/ stirrer needs to be upfront and tell us if he has inside connections and is involved with the running of the site and in the set up and the admin procedures that are clearly showing as being carried out on a regular basis
OR
Is he just wordsmthimg in the hope he can control the forum as to how he thinks thus wants it be shown as operating as under his manner of rules and his own rules of supposed jurisdiction

come on Thomas

whats the story

FACTS and NOT WORDSMITING BOLLOCKS EITHER.
You in the inside of the forum or just an interloper full of nothings trying to look as if you are the Messiah of all accforum.org?

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Posted 22 March 2016 - 05:12 PM

View PostMINI, on 22 March 2016 - 03:43 PM, said:

Thomas

Your last statement is untrue. You just needed to go thru the yank courts. not hard, just a bit costly. Got it in writing from your old mate your provider, so don't try and lie and muddy the waters. You are asll as vulnerable as the other, even the admins and owners and personal members, lying (naming and defaming) threatening. Youa re all criminally accountable.

Mini


One assumes you include yourself as a member within that prose of accusations there mini ?
It is a question of you .


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Posted 22 March 2016 - 06:39 PM

View PostMINI, on 22 March 2016 - 03:43 PM, said:

Thomas

Your last statement is untrue. You just needed to go thru the yank courts. not hard, just a bit costly. Got it in writing from your old mate your provider, so don't try and lie and muddy the waters. You are asll as vulnerable as the other, even the admins and owners and personal members, lying (naming and defaming) threatening. Youa re all criminally accountable.

Mini


How about proving that you have that in writing MINI because

If you don't we will know you're fulla shite and nothing but a LIAR. ===>>>> (Like I KNOW you are)

View PostMINI, on 22 March 2016 - 03:43 PM, said:

Thomas

Your last statement is untrue. You just needed to go thru the yank courts. not hard, just a bit costly. Got it in writing from your old mate your provider,
Mini


Easy to blank your Private details and UPLOAD
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Posted 23 March 2016 - 12:17 PM

View PostDavid Butler, on 22 March 2016 - 05:12 PM, said:

One assumes you include yourself as a member within that prose of accusations there mini ?
It is a question of you .


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Not at all I am the defender of my name you like to tell lies about and will defend until I die. If you had anything more you could do to me and get away with it, you would have done it already as it is exactly what you did with laudafinem and DNottingham. With as you suspect of Alan, knowing more about these things and others that he trys not to let on but then trips over his own importance and has to back track in a hurry, but not fast enough.

So unless someone is going to surprise and spring first, then it will be as I say above.

You all know who you are.

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Posted 23 March 2016 - 12:22 PM

View PostREX, on 22 March 2016 - 06:39 PM, said:

How about proving that you have that in writing MINI because

If you don't we will know you're fulla shite and nothing but a LIAR. ===>>>> (Like I KNOW you are)



Easy to blank your Private details and UPLOAD


Rex

You not getting greedy mits on anything of mine until I am ready. It is a well know fact that I have been through two different suppliers to two different sites.

I don't have to prove a thing to you, the ones that need to know have what they need.

Mini (Upload away Alan) Try and make it into something it is not and see how far you get.
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Posted 23 March 2016 - 12:58 PM

View PostMINI, on 23 March 2016 - 12:22 PM, said:

Rex

You not getting greedy mits on anything of mine until I am ready. It is a well know fact that I have been through two different suppliers to two different sites.

I don't have to prove a thing to you, the ones that need to know have what they need.

Mini (Upload away Alan) Try and make it into something it is not and see how far you get.


We know your just a liar MINI
You HAVE NOTHING ;)/> = LIAR and pathetic attempt of an intimidator

No wonder your husband ran for the hills
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Posted 23 March 2016 - 01:38 PM

View PostMINI, on 23 March 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

Not at all I am the defender of my name you like to tell lies about and will defend until I die. If you had anything more you could do to me and get away with it, you would have done it already as it is exactly what you did with laudafinem and DNottingham. With as you suspect of Alan, knowing more about these things and others that he trys not to let on but then trips over his own importance and has to back track in a hurry, but not fast enough.

So unless someone is going to surprise and spring first, then it will be as I say above.

You all know who you are.

Mini


So you telling us all publicly ,that you have never published False information / Defamation /Lies and made up stories about others -to have others believe Lies / Never Published personal information of others / published and named others .

That is a number of Question/s of you there Mini

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Posted 23 March 2016 - 01:57 PM

your violence toward women is showing again rex....

abusing an elderly, disabled lady.....

you are such a man !......



mini,s medical condition can pre empt some statements she has made.....

whats your excuse rex......?

your mate too busy to sort out your claimants code of rights???

time to get out of your armchair rex and get a life....
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Posted 23 March 2016 - 04:23 PM

View Postnot their victim, on 23 March 2016 - 01:57 PM, said:

your violence toward women is showing again rex....

abusing an elderly, disabled lady.....

you are such a man !......



mini,s medical condition can pre empt some statements she has made.....

whats your excuse rex......?

your mate too busy to sort out your claimants code of rights???

time to get out of your armchair rex and get a life....



View Postnot their victim, on 23 March 2016 - 01:57 PM, said:





mini,s medical condition can pre empt some statements she has made.....






Do you think you have a doctors degree ? ==>>> No Irene you don't you just look stupid

What medical condition is that ? Could you elaborate, she talks of being mental but I think its a ploy for when she's answering charges in court for her involvement in the setting Alan Thomas up for a FALSE conviction.
(There's discusion about Alan between MINI and[Redacted] found in here (undisclosed) which was prior to his arrest saying he didn't know what they were doing to him FFS =Conspiracy

THATS MENTAL alright. ! Posted Image

So if Alan Thomas reveals he suffers from PTSD (worried sick at what they are going to do to him next) you think its not only good practice to join in,, BUT justify one of his constant bullies/alleged co conspirator over the last decade simply for being mental deranged. :rolleyes:/>

That much guilt would probably send anyone mental


View Postnot their victim, on 23 March 2016 - 01:57 PM, said:

your violence toward women is showing again rex....

abusing an elderly, disabled lady.....



Violence yeah right

Could you elaborate to justify you're allegations

Thats what MINI has stated she bought her kids up with (Voilence) but I fail to see what you do :wacko:/>
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Posted 23 March 2016 - 04:38 PM

oh dear Philip with one l......

having trouble getting entitlements while you abusing acc and old ladies???

pity your mate busy with paperwork and hasnt got your back.....

looks like you might have to use your brain for a change instead of the keyboard and nasty mouth!
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Posted 23 March 2016 - 04:46 PM

View Postnot their victim, on 23 March 2016 - 04:38 PM, said:

oh dear Philip with one l......

having trouble getting entitlements while you abusing acc and old ladies???

pity your mate busy with paperwork and hasnt got your back.....

looks like you might have to use your brain for a change instead of the keyboard and nasty mouth!


My name is not philip no matter how you spell it.

Its just one of your DELUSIONS
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Posted 24 March 2016 - 05:48 AM

View PostAlan Thomas, on 22 March 2016 - 10:16 AM, said:

it seems that you are forgetting this site has nothing to do with New Zealand laws.
This means that if you want any recourse from what anyone says about you you will need to deal with them directly and not try and place liability, culpability or incitement on anyone else. By the way how on earth could have admin been responsible for incitement anyway?



View PostAlan Thomas, on 22 March 2016 - 12:52 PM, said:

The issue is not available for a democratic analysis.
The issue is one of compliance with the formal rules which is not open to discussion or negotiation
neither is any of these matters open to controls under New Zealand law as the site has no connection with New Zealand or any New Zealander



View PostDavid Butler, on 22 March 2016 - 05:09 PM, said:

Whilst this thread has gone way off topic the debate is something of interest to me and should be of interest to all members.
Thomas claims continually to have NOTHING to do with the site or the running of it,and NO access to the server that works the site.
But alas Thomas continually comes in spouting as as if he is the almighty who conveys the information to all in here telling us what the he says is apparently fact
Now Thomas ,to show he is someone of importance as he Self Portrays to be ,and not just another nuncer/ stirrer needs to be upfront and tell us if he has inside connections and is involved with the running of the site and in the set up and the admin procedures that are clearly showing as being carried out on a regular basis
OR
Is he just wordsmthimg in the hope he can control the forum as to how he thinks thus wants it be shown as operating as under his manner of rules and his own rules of supposed jurisdiction

come on Thomas

whats the story

FACTS and NOT WORDSMITING BOLLOCKS EITHER.
You in the inside of the forum or just an interloper full of nothings trying to look as if you are the Messiah of all accforum.org?

David


Another one where Thomas comes in with his what are basically demands /orders / overriding bully tactics re what he states are the facts -He Is challenged as to his informations =Then disappears without an informed reply which is not an unusual occurrence for Thomas -this issues being just one of many others that he refuses to respond to and show he has something of value facts etc as to fully endorse what he claims.

Whys that Thomas ?

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Posted 30 March 2016 - 09:37 AM

View PostMINI, on 23 March 2016 - 12:17 PM, said:

Not at all I am the defender of my name you like to tell lies about and will defend until I die. If you had anything more you could do to me and get away with it, you would have done it already as it is exactly what you did with laudafinem and DNottingham. With as you suspect of Alan, knowing more about these things and others that he trys not to let on but then trips over his own importance and has to back track in a hurry, but not fast enough.

So unless someone is going to surprise and spring first, then it will be as I say above.

You all know who you are.

Mini



View PostDavid Butler, on 23 March 2016 - 01:38 PM, said:

So you telling us all publicly ,that you have never published False information / Defamation /Lies and made up stories about others -to have others believe Lies / Never Published personal information of others / published and named others .

That is a number of Question/s of you there Mini

David

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No response be an answer of a YES
Thanks MINI.
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Posted 30 March 2016 - 09:39 AM

View PostDavid Butler, on 24 March 2016 - 05:48 AM, said:

Another one where Thomas comes in with his what are basically demands /orders / overriding bully tactics re what he states are the facts -He Is challenged as to his informations =Then disappears without an informed reply which is not an unusual occurrence for Thomas -this issues being just one of many others that he refuses to respond to and show he has something of value facts etc as to fully endorse what he claims.

Whys that Thomas ?

David.

And the other one who disappears and wont respond leaving an answer of that He is full of bollocks

Thanks Alan Thomas.

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 09:13 PM

Correct. You do not have to answer to him.

View PostMINI, on 23 March 2016 - 12:22 PM, said:

Rex

You not getting greedy mits on anything of mine until I am ready. It is a well know fact that I have been through two different suppliers to two different sites.

I don't have to prove a thing to you, the ones that need to know have what they need.

Mini (Upload away Alan) Try and make it into something it is not and see how far you get.

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 09:25 PM

Disgusting of ACC really. Therapists like that should definitely be reported and ACC ought not use her services. She only has a simple undergraduate 1-yr polytech diploma in therapy but certainly no university degrees - apart from a single first year/stage one BA paper in psychology (which any high school NCEA graduate could pass). Nothing more. She'd need to study and pass 20 more papers to even get an undergrad degree. So presumably an under qualified person like that is cheaper for penny pinching ACC to hire, than properly trained therapists.

View PostRosey, on 13 March 2016 - 11:15 AM, said:

Also uses the alias of Carol Becket. So one way to shut these money hungry bigots down is to expose them. Patronising and judgemental, Ms Beckett insisted the claimants disability is mind over matter, that despite all the medical specialists views, insists that the patient's physical inability to transfer from bed to commode in hospital is the victim role and self pity, that the patient should go "dateing" while housebound, seriously ill and without wheelchair transport, that nothing is impossible but the cure for this ACC sensitive claims counsellors conditions are impossible!


—in Rotorua, New Zealand.Posted Image
Claimants families (etc) should be complaining to ACC about her & the HDC.

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Posted 18 April 2016 - 09:30 PM

The brothers appear to hate women and blame their misogyny on nuns.

View Postnot their victim, on 23 March 2016 - 01:57 PM, said:

your violence toward women is showing again rex....

abusing an elderly, disabled lady.....

you are such a man !......



mini,s medical condition can pre empt some statements she has made.....

whats your excuse rex......?

your mate too busy to sort out your claimants code of rights???

time to get out of your armchair rex and get a life....


Desperado wants to be my friend for some reason.
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Posted 18 April 2016 - 09:33 PM

Beware of this therapist, please sensitive claimants. You or your loved ones may not get another warning. All the best.

View PostRosey, on 12 March 2016 - 10:01 PM, said:

WARNING against this ACC regd sensitive claims counsellor operating in the Rotorua area. As you know the issue is more ACC's inadequate registration and vetting process. The woman only has a polytech diploma in counselling & no other qualifications. She is unsafe and has mental health issues.

For instance the therapist told a severely ill mobility disabled woman in her own community to go out dating when the bedridden lady was far too sick & cannot walk. The severely injured claimant had been denied the doctor prescribed wheelchair by ACC so had remained housebound for more than 7 months.

Without medical training or knowledge of the claimant's condition, the disconnected therapist decided a wheelchair would not be good for her yet THREE highly qualified medical doctors had each individually prescribed it. The disabled claimant is housebound and lives alone so cannot go anywhere but the therapist insists that the inability to physically walk is simply mind over matter and to Zumba Fitness​ out of the wheelchair, regardless of teams of qualified medical specialist doctors saying quite the opposite.

The disabled woman had been admitted to hospital quite sick, unable to physically transfer onto the commode but the deranged counsellor dismissed the disability as simply the "victim role".

This simple mindedness ignores multiple abnormal laboratory blood test results and several swollen, stiff, deformed joints.

BEWARE of these sorts of out of it counsellors on the ACC therapist board register. They insult and judge physical disabled and would conceivably do more harm to vulnerable sensitive claimants. You have been warned.

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ACC's dangerous INsensitive claims counsellor Kararaina C Beckett ofRotorua, New Zealand. Tells hospitalised severely ill disabled their pain and disability is in the mind and they're in the "victim" role and "self pity". Real doctors UNimpressed.


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Posted 18 April 2016 - 09:37 PM

I wasn't surprised to see your racism, slander and shet stirring playing out in the forum




What a sad way to lead a life :rolleyes:/>
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Posted 18 April 2016 - 09:50 PM

Grateful for those laws.

View Postnot their victim, on 22 March 2016 - 08:35 AM, said:

Suggest you familiarise yourself with updated laws troll Rex

Oh but that's right, you need your stressed out "friend" to write subs for you...

Liability, culpability and incitement

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