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Prime Minister’s Statement to Parliament

#61 User is offline   imanaccmoledeepundercover 

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:27 PM

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:32 PM

View PostMG, on 23 February 2013 - 01:01 PM, said:

I note that you evade my question, "netcoachnz", so I'll ask it again: do you endorse the government propaganda you post on this site or not?


MG, I post information that may or may not be useful for adult, reflective discussion.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:24 PM

View Postaccounting, on 22 February 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

I have no idea what load of crap is sorry I dont get caught up in the drama on here just asked the wuestion how you seemed to be hooked up to the net and have a beach house and in your own words above more than one new car when you recently posted the link the that web page .


Accounting is this what the forum is for?? Stalking down crooks. Well you dont have to go far do you. If you beleive all that is posted on here and google and lf you would believe that I am a tax cheat/fraudster.

So you will really understand now why it is imperative that I get my name cleared in ach of the sites.

that is going to cost me big time.

Co you think I should have to pay or that David Butler should have too as he gave the information to LF and his repeating of my name adnausium on this site has meant google has picked up my name.

This is seriously harmful to me and my reputation as an honest and upstanding citizen of NZ. It is going to be terribly embarassing if I get stopped at any borders, as I travel a lot.

Could you tell me, do you believe I am a tax fraudster??

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:28 PM

It appears that several forum members have taken this thread well off its original topic.

View Postnetcoachnz, on 22 February 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

John Key's statement to Parliament earlier this year included 2 paragraphs on ACC

The Government is ensuring that ACC is a high-performing accident insurance scheme with stable levies that can be brought down over time. It is also important that ACC operates with the public’s trust and confidence and improving this is a key focus area over the coming year.

ACC will this year continue to implement an extensive programme to improve the way it receives, manages, accesses and reports on confidential client information.

http://www.beehive.g...nt-parliament-1

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:41 PM

View Postnetcoachnz, on 22 February 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

Blurb has attempted to highjack this thread, this thread is about the Prime Ministers statements with regard ACC and not a statement on behalf of Blurb.

Blurb, perhaps you should place your "blurberial" statements onto http://www.blurblive.com

Perhaps the motivation of a fellow genuine forum member in the posting in the quote below will help other forum members understand what I am stating.....


so alan thomas can sue someone.....he is desperate
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:46 PM

View PostMINI, on 24 February 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

so alan thomas can sue someone.....he is desperate


This quote had nothing to do with the topic of the thread, it is yet another opportunity for Mini to mention her favourite genuine forum member - Alan Thomas.
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:59 PM

View Postaccounting, on 22 February 2013 - 08:33 PM, said:

So can you expalin then Blurb how you can afford it seeing I so often see you post how poor you are on the winz benefit after all the house in waikato and the beach house the new cars and satellite internet as well as the net at home.

hell i live in a rural location I work part time and get erc yet could not afford satellite internet.While also having had to do leg work to save myself money with the lawyer doing my review and having to deal with other acc claims that are on going at the same time go to treatment so I can increase work capacity. very full on everyday. Yet you seem to be able to swan off to some idilic surf beach and relax atthe beach house and surf the very expensive satellite internet.

What pacakage and provider are you using I need to have a chat to them


Accounting you say sorry for blogging, then you come right back on and ask blurb all personal questions.

Who cares how many cars blurb has or hasnt got. Me I really dont give a fudge. i really do think you should get Alan to start you up your own thread like mine so that all your gargbage can go into it.

I just tried to help you out a small while ago, by giving you my version of someone elses case. Not knowing of course that you are not in any particular need, because the amount owing to you will be so small, it is about as fruitful as the effort of typing all this sheet is.

So mind if you intend to attack me that your true colours will also be shown. It will look as though you were only fishing for information off me, for god knows what reason. But I can do without the distraction and further agrivation, after all I have my own stuff to do. I do not help you so that you can simply spend time, fishing for others information as well.

The funny part about this is that Netcoach doesnt see any harm in you interupting his thread at all. it is only blurb he picks on.

Blurb and Mini the ones to be picked on for a month or two, until enough information to drag them in on some other charge as there is no likelihood of being able to get them involved in TBP now.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:24 PM

Mini, having totally wreaked the flow of this thread I will reply to you within this thread and also within your members only thread entitled Mini's Depository.

View PostMINI, on 24 February 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

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The funny part about this is that Netcoachnz doesn't see any harm in you interrupting his thread at all. it is only blurb he picks on.


Nothing funny about ruining someones topic 'Mini'. 'Accounting' made an apology within this thread and I accepted it in good faith. FYI, I do not, and have not picked on the forum member called 'Blurb'. This is just more lies designed by "Mini' to ingratiate herself into any and every thread possible.

View PostMINI, on 24 February 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Blurb and Mini the ones to be picked on for a month or two, until enough information to drag them in on some other charge as there is no likelihood of being able to get them involved in TBP now.

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'Mini', I am not responsible that you feel picked on, this discussion is better to be had with a trained specialist ie Psychologist, Psychotherapist or Psychiatrist. You raise the matter of the so called takapuna bomb plot (TBP), which in no way is related to this thread.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:03 AM

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:29 AM

Its a joke and a very sick one at that. ACC are a bunch of a_______holes. Operating outside the law and respecting nobodies human rights.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:23 PM

View Postnetcoachnz, on 24 February 2013 - 03:24 PM, said:

Mini, having totally wreaked the flow of this thread I will reply to you within this thread and also within your members only thread entitled Mini's Depository.



Nothing funny about ruining someones topic 'Mini'. 'Accounting' made an apology within this thread and I accepted it in good faith. FYI, I do not, and have not picked on the forum member called 'Blurb'. This is just more lies designed by "Mini' to ingratiate herself into any and every thread possible.



'Mini', I am not responsible that you feel picked on, this discussion is better to be had with a trained specialist ie Psychologist, Psychotherapist or Psychiatrist. You raise the matter of the so called takapuna bomb plot (TBP), which in no way is related to this thread.


Do I look like I care what you do??
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:40 PM

"netcoachnz" - in spite of my asking you to do so, more than once, you still evade answering my question. Do you, or don't you, agree with the pro-government propaganda that you post, uncritically, on this site? Your answer matters because I think it tells us whether you support the government's actions in its ACC portfolio. As I'm sure you've worked out, I do not (and make no secret of it); neither do most readers, and posters, on this site. If you do support government ACC policies, I think you should have the moral fortitude to tell us that you do - and be prepared to defend your position. If you are not a government supporter, then I think you should tell us why you communicate its propaganda, without indicating your position. Finally, if you are an agent provocateur (as it seems a number of posters on this site are), then I think you should go away and spend my tax dollars doing something more useful with your time.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:43 PM

View Postnetcoachnz, on 23 February 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

MG, I post information that may or may not be useful for adult, reflective discussion.

I draw your attention to the following forum rules------>

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We will see about this. No accountability..........you wish!!
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:44 PM

View PostMINI, on 25 February 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

Do I look like I care what you do??


Mini, why do you insist on taking a fellow forum members thread *off topic*?
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:46 PM

View Postnetcoachnz, on 23 February 2013 - 02:32 PM, said:

MG, I post information that may or may not be useful for adult, reflective discussion.

I draw your attention to the following forum rules------>

Please remember that we are not responsible for any messages posted. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message, and are not responsible for the contents of any message.

The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this bulletin board. Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact us immediately by email. We have the ability to remove objectionable messages and we will make every effort to do so, within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary.



Who are 'we'.. I recall Thomo used that same royal 'we' in the old days before 'TBP'
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:48 PM

View Postnetcoachnz, on 25 February 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

Mini, why do you insist on taking a fellow forum members thread *off topic*?


The Prime Ministers dribble still news is it. But the Arrin stuff on LF not worth anything.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:14 PM

View PostMG, on 22 February 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Key's statement is pure, undiluted spin from government, like many of "netcoachnz's" posts on this forum in recent days. I'm not saying "netcoachnz" is responsible for creating any of this spin, or for disseminating it (although he/she/it has certainly done the last, by posting it on the site), but readers should recognise these posts as propaganda. In any event, Key's speech, and the rest of the spin, courtesy of "netcoachnz", is not aimed at readers of this site. Its target audience is "middle NZ" - those in paid employment (an ever-diminishing number, thanks to our wonderful government's brilliant macroeconomic policies), without any knowledge of personal injury, disability, or systemic bureaucratic oppression. The target group, of course, is the one that decides the outcomes of elections, and who gets to ride around in the Crown limos, so it is essential for political stability that "middle NZ" is bombarded with bullshit from the army of propagandists in the government's pay (paid for by readers of this site, among others). Bear this in mind when you read "netcoachnz"'s posts.



View PostMG, on 25 February 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

"netcoachnz" - in spite of my asking you to do so, more than once, you still evade answering my question. Do you, or don't you, agree with the pro-government propaganda that you post, uncritically, on this site? Your answer matters because I think it tells us whether you support the government's actions in its ACC portfolio. As I'm sure you've worked out, I do not (and make no secret of it); neither do most readers, and posters, on this site. If you do support government ACC policies, I think you should have the moral fortitude to tell us that you do - and be prepared to defend your position. If you are not a government supporter, then I think you should tell us why you communicate its propaganda, without indicating your position. Finally, if you are an agent provocateur (as it seems a number of posters on this site are), then I think you should go away and spend my tax dollars doing something more useful with your time.


MG, I answered your question earlier in this thread when I pointed out the forum rule The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of this bulletin board.The author in the case of my original posting was Mr John Key, Prime Minister of NZ. I started this thread in the hope of having some meaningful discussion about what the Prime Minister had stated, however, over 90% of the postings are completely off the topic. In this case I hold a "neutral" viewpoint.

Your comment that I
post pro-government propaganda uncritically, on this site is simply not factual. You have interpreted my postings as being pro-government. All of my postings are made in good faith in order that the topic may be discussed by those interested forum members. I have not seen you, MG, challenge any of my postings apart from this one. If you want critical, healthy discussion on a topic, feel free to join in.

MG, I am not evading answering, I simply choose not to answer your specific questions as I regard them as one forum member attempting to "belittle" another forum member within a public posting. Enter into debate about the topic and not about the motivation of the poster of the topic.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:16 PM

Knowledge of the motivation of the poster is essential before one can debate the contents of the post (or decide whether to bother debating its contents at all, in view of the poster's biases), particularly where the post is simply a repost of another. I asked you, "netcoachnz", whether you endorsed the contents of your posts, given that they were straight repostings of government propaganda. If you are a pro-government hack or toady, at least have the guts to admit it. For what it's worth, I think Key's statement is lying, duplicitous spin, intended to persuade people without any experience of personal injury that his government is running ACC properly when, in fact, it is not. Where do you stand on this issue, "netcoachnz"?
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