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Meeting for Rehabilitation, Back to Work programme Had to give evidence of bereavement???

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:06 AM

Hi, does anyone know if ACC can ask you to provide evidence of a bereavement if you postpone an appointment to meet a new Case Manager and talk about rehabilitation? This is the first time this has happened and I was pretty shocked at their insensitivity. Also, my claims is a sensitive claim and now it's being handled by a North Shore Case Manager, I wonder if this is why my new Case Manager is a polar opposite to my previous Case Managers who have been pretty good overall. This one talked over me when I phoned her and told me that the reason she didn't want me to postpone the meeting for 3 weeks is that she didn't want me to go off and "curl up in a ball"... how condescending is that! The reason I was postponing the meeting was because I had commitments to do with the bereavement, organise a get-together for all her friends/family and look after her daughter who is very fragile at the moment.... I have the meeting this week since she couldn't wait 3 weeks I wanted and sent an obituary for the Herald...
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:15 PM

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1358723204[/url]"]1358723204[/url]' post='145948']Hi, does anyone know if ACC can ask you to provide evidence of a bereavement if you postpone an appointment to meet a new Case Manager and talk about rehabilitation? This is the first time this has happened and I was pretty shocked at their insensitivity. Also, my claims is a sensitive claim and now it's being handled by a North Shore Case Manager, I wonder if this is why my new Case Manager is a polar opposite to my previous Case Managers who have been pretty good overall. This one talked over me when I phoned her and told me that the reason she didn't want me to postpone the meeting for 3 weeks is that she didn't want me to go off and "curl up in a ball"... how condescending is that! The reason I was postponing the meeting was because I had commitments to do with the bereavement, organise a get-together for all her friends/family and look after her daughter who is very fragile at the moment.... I have the meeting this week since she couldn't wait 3 weeks I wanted and sent an obituary for the Herald...



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1320887076[/url]"]1320887076[/url]' post='119321']<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">The woman told a claimant she must not miss assessments/meetings for tangihanga without providing not only a newspaper death notice but also full & private personal details of the deceased and their relationship plus their roles in each other's lives. This is in breach of NZ Privacy Act, Human Rights, Bill of Rights legislation as well as the Treaty of Waitangi. From a country not known for it's Human Rights
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:19 PM

non compliance seems to be the order of the day under the dictatorship of acc

sorry to hear of your bereavement...you certainly dont need that scenario..my condolences...


i was deemed non compliant...when acc unreasonably expected me to be at an appointment with them, and i was travelling to visit my surgeon!!!

on the same day...acc had organised the surgeon's visit, so that was just one major excuse to utilise non compliance...I could not possibly be in 2 places at once..

I did not have a definitive diagnosis. so as far as im concerned...what were acc trying to rehabilitate???

you are well within your rights to formalise a complaint...especially under the NZBORA..


http://www.legislati.../DLM224792.html



last year, my stepfather passed away, and acc wanted me to attend a drsl!!!!..

needless to say, my stepfathers funeral came 1st....even tho acc were peeved...that they had to postpone!!!

all written down...""we wont be granting her another reprieve""..

.i should hope not. after all I only had one stepfather, who was a decorated war veteran...and I was the only family representative, who organised the funeral, eulogy, after function etc...

so as far as im concerned...there is no way acc could have had MY REVIEW...without my presence...

please bear in mind...whatever action you do take...please keep hold of your income / ERC...which is actually an Income Replacement Insurance payment...to do with your ability to work, not your personal circumstances...

all the best...
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:23 PM

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1358727590[/url]' post='145950']
non compliance seems to be the order of the day under the dictatorship of acc

sorry to hear of your bereavement...you certainly dont need that scenario..my condolences...


i was deemed non compliant...when acc unreasonably expected me to be at an appointment with them, and i was travelling to visit my surgeon!!!

on the same day...acc had organised the surgeon's visit, so that was just one major excuse to utilise non compliance...I could not possibly be in 2 places at once..

I did not have a definitive diagnosis. so as far as im concerned...what were acc trying to rehabilitate???

you are well within your rights to formalise a complaint...especially under the NZBORA..


http://www.legislati.../DLM224792.html



last year, my stepfather passed away, and acc wanted me to attend a drsl!!!!..

needless to say, my stepfathers funeral came 1st....even tho acc were peeved...that they had to postpone!!!

all written down...""we wont be granting her another reprieve""..

.i should hope not. after all I only had one stepfather, who was a decorated war veteran...and I was the only family representative, who organised the funeral, eulogy, after function etc...

so as far as im concerned...there is no way acc could have had MY REVIEW...without my presence...

please bear in mind...whatever action you do take...please keep hold of your income / ERC...which is actually an Income Replacement Insurance payment...to do with your ability to work, not your personal circumstances...

all the best...


Dictatorship is about right.

not their victim said:

1337551718[/url]' post='128613']<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">its not illegal to go on vacation<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">i went to visit family...personal reasons...deeply personal reasons...<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">acc head office were contacted...and I was cleared to go....<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">the ERC...is actually an Income Replacement Insurance Payment...and is nothing to do with your capabilities...<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">winz are now making an issue of this as well...<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">its a breach of the NZ Bill of Rights, and Human Rights, when acc or winz stop you being with your family...<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">and if you have a permanent disability, why should you be disadvantaged from being with family, attending funerals/ tangihanga...???<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">it smacks of total control over your life, and massive effort to stifle your legal rights...<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">check out the holidays act...regardless of where your income is derived, it is NOT illegal to take a holiday from ones tough life!<br style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:27 PM

maybe just a link to the thread Moeroa.???..

the editing is still somewhat scrambled...
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:40 PM

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maybe just a link to the thread Moeroa.???..

the editing is still somewhat scrambled...


Something wrong with iPad posts since site upgrade... :(
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Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:51 PM

View PostMoeroa, on 21 January 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 02:25 PM

View Postnot their victim, on 21 January 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

non compliance seems to be the order of the day under the dictatorship of acc

sorry to hear of your bereavement...you certainly dont need that scenario..my condolences...


i was deemed non compliant...when acc unreasonably expected me to be at an appointment with them, and i was travelling to visit my surgeon!!!

on the same day...acc had organised the surgeon's visit, so that was just one major excuse to utilise non compliance...I could not possibly be in 2 places at once..

I did not have a definitive diagnosis. so as far as im concerned...what were acc trying to rehabilitate???

you are well within your rights to formalise a complaint...especially under the NZBORA..


http://www.legislati.../DLM224792.html


Thanks lots for the info, it's nice to know that I'm not the only one who has had to go through this... I can't believe they deemed you non-compliant when you were visiting your surgeon, you've got to wonder how they manage to organise anything! I'm hoping I can find something in print that I can take to the meeting so will check out the links that have been posted - many thanks!


last year, my stepfather passed away, and acc wanted me to attend a drsl!!!!..

needless to say, my stepfathers funeral came 1st....even tho acc were peeved...that they had to postpone!!!

all written down...""we wont be granting her another reprieve""..

.i should hope not. after all I only had one stepfather, who was a decorated war veteran...and I was the only family representative, who organised the funeral, eulogy, after function etc...

so as far as im concerned...there is no way acc could have had MY REVIEW...without my presence...

please bear in mind...whatever action you do take...please keep hold of your income / ERC...which is actually an Income Replacement Insurance payment...to do with your ability to work, not your personal circumstances...

all the best...

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