[sunny]

Has anyone had any dealings with a Dr David Beaumont please
thanks

[kiwigirljacks]

sunny, on 21 June 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

Has anyone had any dealings with a Dr David Beaumont please
thanks

Just wondering if you had any contact about him? I am due to see him end of this month. I googled him and all he is about is getting people back to work from what I can see!!

[sunny]

kiwigirljacks, on 06 October 2011 - 01:52 PM, said:

Just wondering if you had any contact about him? I am due to see him end of this month. I googled him and all he is about is getting people back to work from what I can see!!

Yes that is EXACTLY what hes all about!
He would have to have been the most obnoxious, arrogant little males that I have ever met!
Take some advice
Do Not go alone! and record the whole assessment! Take a support person with you!
He has a very sneaky way of twisting what you said, insist, if you have them, that he reads any reports that acc havent given him. Make sure you get the cm to send you a list of all the imformation theyr sending him,BEFORE you go to see him! Go through it and take what they havent given him with you.
He also watches you sneakily as well so be aware he is watching you all the time, Im not sure but I think he has his cellph recording the assessment.
Be very careful what you say an dont let him rush you into things, think before you answer him
Dont expect a good report that helps you, he took everything he read in my reports out of context an came up with his own opinions an even then he contridicted his own opinion!
Good luck an do make sure you have a support person with you an record the assessment!

[J. Bloggs]

sunny, on 21 June 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

Has anyone had any dealings with a Dr David Beaumont please
thanks

Dr Beaumont operates a company "fit for work": based in Cromwell, Central Otago. Local information is that he is English Trained and practiced as a GP before opting out and contacting to ACC as an occupational assessor.
I am interested to hear from anyone who have been assessed by this person; as I have refused to attend an assessment with him until ACC requests an assessment that includes "all injuries" sustained in the accident, that all injuries are correctly classified under Read Codes, and that corrections to false information about diagnosis made by the case manager Liz Goodhew, are included into the claim file.

[sunny]

J. Bloggs, on 06 October 2011 - 06:56 PM, said:

Dr Beaumont operates a company "fit for work": based in Cromwell, Central Otago. Local information is that he is English Trained and practiced as a GP before opting out and contacting to ACC as an occupational assessor.
I am interested to hear from anyone who have been assessed by this person; as I have refused to attend an assessment with him until ACC requests an assessment that includes "all injuries" sustained in the accident, that all injuries are correctly classified under Read Codes, and that corrections to false information about diagnosis made by the case manager Liz Goodhew, are included into the claim file.

Correct!
He would be well discribed as a pompos little pom!
Added to that would be little man syndrome, arrogant, rude, an extremely shifty!
I would not be going to any assessment with him again without a support person, a recorder an makeing sure all the documentation was correct before hand includeing finding out what questions acc ask of him, very leading questions of course!
However he was self opinionated an seemed to think he knew better than 2 muscularskeletal Drs!
He contradicted his own opinions, an stretched the actual thruth of what occurred in the assessment
Refused to listen when I gave answers to his questions, quite obviously didnt want to know or listen to what actually occurred
Another gravy train rider with his fat nose in the trough!
Maybe he should take his own advice an get off his fat arse an do a bit of exercise himself!
He certainly looks overfed an waddle is the way I would describe the way he walked!

[J. Bloggs]

Attached is a document in which ACC gives instructions to their contacted Occupational assessor on how to write his report.

Attached File(s)

•  Occupational Assessment Questions.pdf (172.8K)
  Number of downloads: 57

[Simba]

Hey I have just been asked for me to see Dr David Beaumont from my case manager, but after reading some of you talking about him, I don't think I feel comfortable see him.? I have been fighting with acc for the past 4 1/2 years. I think I will try and get ACC to send me to another specialist. I didn't think doctors were allowed to do this sort of thing, what an eye opener. Has anyone else tried a different specialist in Auckland??

Simba

[arty]

I also have just seen this below human status thing ( david beaumont ) and he told acc that i was fit to go back to my old job carpainting eventhough he forgot that i have isocyanate induced asthma but according to him i am cured if so why have i still got asthma ,hay fever ,eczema
I have made an official complaint about him to the privacy commissioner because he broke privacy by putting stuff in his report that i said not to

[mimi]

The Corporation’s declining claims is because New Zealand is a guinepig country, the only country on earth where Torts Law is replaced by business called Accident Compensation Corporation. This national Corporation is an ideal business that lives on mandatory tax payer’s funds. As a business the corporation’s duty therefore is to protect grossly reckless doctors and award butchery. NZ doctor’s are fully aware of this fact and they are even told of this fact by the representative from the HDC office that they both ACC and HDC protect reckless doctors. I have attended a lecturing in which HDC representative said that they protect doctors NOT the people of NZ and was giving examples what they say when declining claim. ACC and HDC and DRSL are same shit. All has to go down.

Weak up NZ.

[Nail]

This particular assessor is as far from impartial as one can be.

He will ask you leading questions and go as far as answering them for you, be aware of this and make sure you answer in your own terms, not his.

He will observe you in minute detail and pick up on any inane movement in an attempt to support a negative opinion of your claim to injury.

This assessor may attempt to degrade your character if necessary and to do so will quote out of context, either from recordings of the assessment or from anything at hand that may be available to him on your file , be aware of this.

You can almost guarantee your assessment will be completely against you and written for ACC with one purpose in mind, disentitlement.

Taking a support person and inform ACC you will be recording your assessment with this individual.

In hindsight I would go as far to say that audio is not enough if possible take a video camera.
.

[sunny]

Nail, on 11 March 2012 - 08:20 AM, said:

This particular assessor is as far from impartial as one can be.

He will ask you leading questions and go as far as answering them for you, be aware of this and make sure you answer in your own terms, not his.

He will observe you in minute detail and pick up on any inane movement in an attempt to support a negative opinion of your claim to injury.

This assessor may attempt to degrade your character if necessary and to do so will quote out of context, either from recordings of the assessment or from anything at hand that may be available to him on your file , be aware of this.

You can almost guarantee your assessment will be completely against you and written for ACC with one purpose in mind, disentitlement.

Taking a support person and inform ACC you will be recording your assessment with this individual.

In hindsight I would go as far to say that audio is not enough if possible take a video camera.
.

Totally agree with everything yourv said Nail!
This pompos little pom has to be the most arrogant, rude, sneaky male Iv every had the misfortune of ever haveing met!
He gives his own opinion on something then contridict his own opinions!
Absolutly take support an record the appointment, hes an out an out liar!
Horrible man should go back to where he came from!

[fairgo]

He came from the UK in 2006 - prior to that he worked as an occupational physician for ATOS origin healthcare. The very same company that was put under the spotlight by the UK parliament in 2010 and 2011. The comments below were sent to me yesterday by one of our contacts, makes for interesting reading. Both the Harrington reports are on the net as is "The role of incapacity reassessments in helping claimants into employment"

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Apparently Atos Healthcare advised the UK's Health and Safety Executive that "The Medical Examination Centre assesses people's functional ability through consultation, discussion and simple physical tests (e.g. reflex) ..." - sound familiar?! The complaints about Atos assessments also sound disturbingly familiar in the ACC context, e.g. "Too often evidence from the Atos Origin doctor is preferred over other evidence supplied by practitioners who are more familiar with the applicant's condition". The Work and Pensions Committee of the British Parliament held an inquiry into Atos and produced a 182 page report in July 2011, "The role of incapacity benefit reassessments in helping claimants into employment" (HC1015)(Sixth Report of Session 2010-2012). The Committee commented, "decision-makers rarely question the advice provided by Atos" (p 31) and "they tended to 'rubber stamp' the advice received from Atos" (p 42). Again, sound familiar?! The Committee reached the view: "The service provided by Atos Healthcare, which carries out the [work capability assessment], has often fallen below the standard claimants rightly expect". This is the company with which Dr Beaumont was associated before he came to New Zealand in 2006. He appears to have set up in New Zealand a very similar operation to that of Atos Origin Healthcare in the UK. Looking at his activities objectively, one could say that he has created a perceived need in NZ and then set out to provide services to meet that created need.

[so ovr sensitiveclaimsunit]

Simba, on 11 October 2011 - 12:32 PM, said:

Hey I have just been asked for me to see Dr David Beaumont from my case manager, but after reading some of you talking about him, I don't think I feel comfortable see him.? I have been fighting with acc for the past 4 1/2 years. I think I will try and get ACC to send me to another specialist. I didn't think doctors were allowed to do this sort of thing, what an eye opener. Has anyone else tried a different specialist in Auckland??

Simba

Dr David Black is excellent and based in Auckland. He wrote a good report for a claimant I know.

[Nail]

so ovr sensitiveclaimsunit, on 11 March 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

Dr David Black is excellent and based in Auckland. He wrote a good report for a claimant I know.

Dr David Black from all accounts is a very honest and very ethical professional.

[fairgo]

To get an understanding of this man's sense of importance....
Read this blurb from his website and then read the actual article (in FULL) being referred to at the bottom of the page. BTW I've had longer letters to the editor!!

***************
Dr David Beaumont published in Oxford University medical journal

By fitforwork on September 16, 2011 in General News

The internationally reputed Oxford Journals carries an article by occupational physician and Fit For Work Medical Director Dr David Beaumont in the September issue.

As the publishing arm of Oxford University, the journal aims to disseminate research of impeccable quality for the broadest readership possible.

Dr Beaumont says that he is delighted and humbled by the news of the publication as the article will be shared by academics and practitioners across the world.

Entitled The role of the GP in keeping people in work, Dr Beaumont’s article examines the latest research about the health benefits for workers who are supported in to a return to the workplace as soon as possible after an event of illness or injury.

Dr Beaumont concludes that

the advice and influence of the treating GP is pivotal in promoting the psychological, social, motivational and behavioural advantages of a healthy and sustainable resumption of work.

Having his findings published internationally will add to Dr Beaumont’s growing reputation among his Australasian peers as a thought leader in the domain of occupational and environmental medicine.

******************

The role of the GP in keeping people in work
We agree with the conclusions drawn by Morrison [1] as to what needs to happen to support people in or to work after
illness or injury; it requires greater cooperation and closer working between general practitioners (GPs), occupational
health specialists and employers. In fact, this conclusion was also agreed in consensus reached between the Presidents
of the Society and Faculty of Occupational Medicine, Chair of Council of the Royal College of General Practitioners
and also leaders from employers, unions, insurers and government in 2003 [2].
In 2002, Beaumont and Quinlan [3] prompted that occupational physicians should assert their central role in rehabilitation.
Gunnyeon [4] went further and in response to the opportunities arising from Dame Carol Black’s Review
issued a call to action; ‘Is occupational medicine ready to seize the moment and in doing so create for itself a stimulating
and secure future?’
On 30 March 2011, in Wellington, New Zealand, Dame Carol Black launched the ‘Australian and New Zealand
Consensus Statements on the Health Benefits of Work’. This was an initiative led by the Australasian Faculty of Occupational
and Environmental Medicine, with signatories from health professionals, employers, unions, workers
groups, insurers, government and a wide range of other stakeholders. Speakers included the President of the Faculty,
President of the Royal NZ College of GPs, President of the NZ Council of Trade Unions and a government
Minister.
To achieve the positive benefits of work on health is going to require a paradigm shift in thinking and practice for
many of the people involved, not least GPs. The Australasian Faculty will continue to engage with GPs and other
stakeholders to facilitate this. Further information is at http://www.racp.edu....lth-benefitsof-
work.
David Beaumont
e-mail: [email protected]
References
1. Morrison J. The role of the GP in keeping people in work. Occup Med (Lond) 2011;61:218.
2. Beaumont D. Rehabilitation and retention in the workplace—the interaction between general practitioners and occupational
health professionals: a consensus statement. Occup Med (Lond) 2003;53:254–255.
3. Beaumont D, Quinlan R. Vocational rehabilitation, case management and occupational health. Occup Med (Lond)
2002;52:293–295.
4. Gunnyeon W. Black—the Robens of 2008? Occup Med (Lond) 2009;5:292–293.
394 OCCUPATIONAL MEDICINE
Downloaded from http://occmed.oxfordjournals.org/

[sunny]

fairgo, on 11 March 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

To get an understanding of this man's sense of importance....
Read this blurb from his website and then read the actual article (in FULL) being referred to at the bottom of the page. BTW I've had longer letters to the editor!!

***************
Dr David Beaumont published in Oxford University medical journal

By fitforwork on September 16, 2011 in General News

The internationally reputed Oxford Journals carries an article by occupational physician and Fit For Work Medical Director Dr David Beaumont in the September issue.

As the publishing arm of Oxford University, the journal aims to disseminate research of impeccable quality for the broadest readership possible.

Dr Beaumont says that he is delighted and humbled by the news of the publication as the article will be shared by academics and practitioners across the world.

Entitled The role of the GP in keeping people in work, Dr Beaumont’s article examines the latest research about the health benefits for workers who are supported in to a return to the workplace as soon as possible after an event of illness or injury.

Dr Beaumont concludes that

the advice and influence of the treating GP is pivotal in promoting the psychological, social, motivational and behavioural advantages of a healthy and sustainable resumption of work.

Having his findings published internationally will add to Dr Beaumont’s growing reputation among his Australasian peers as a thought leader in the domain of occupational and environmental medicine.

******************

The role of the GP in keeping people in work
We agree with the conclusions drawn by Morrison [1] as to what needs to happen to support people in or to work after
illness or injury; it requires greater cooperation and closer working between general practitioners (GPs), occupational
health specialists and employers. In fact, this conclusion was also agreed in consensus reached between the Presidents
of the Society and Faculty of Occupational Medicine, Chair of Council of the Royal College of General Practitioners
and also leaders from employers, unions, insurers and government in 2003 [2].
In 2002, Beaumont and Quinlan [3] prompted that occupational physicians should assert their central role in rehabilitation.
Gunnyeon [4] went further and in response to the opportunities arising from Dame Carol Black’s Review
issued a call to action; ‘Is occupational medicine ready to seize the moment and in doing so create for itself a stimulating
and secure future?’
On 30 March 2011, in Wellington, New Zealand, Dame Carol Black launched the ‘Australian and New Zealand
Consensus Statements on the Health Benefits of Work’. This was an initiative led by the Australasian Faculty of Occupational
and Environmental Medicine, with signatories from health professionals, employers, unions, workers
groups, insurers, government and a wide range of other stakeholders. Speakers included the President of the Faculty,
President of the Royal NZ College of GPs, President of the NZ Council of Trade Unions and a government
Minister.
To achieve the positive benefits of work on health is going to require a paradigm shift in thinking and practice for
many of the people involved, not least GPs. The Australasian Faculty will continue to engage with GPs and other
stakeholders to facilitate this. Further information is at http://www.racp.edu....lth-benefitsof-
work.
David Beaumont
e-mail: [email protected]
References
1. Morrison J. The role of the GP in keeping people in work. Occup Med (Lond) 2011;61:218.
2. Beaumont D. Rehabilitation and retention in the workplace—the interaction between general practitioners and occupational
health professionals: a consensus statement. Occup Med (Lond) 2003;53:254–255.
3. Beaumont D, Quinlan R. Vocational rehabilitation, case management and occupational health. Occup Med (Lond)
2002;52:293–295.
4. Gunnyeon W. Black—the Robens of 2008? Occup Med (Lond) 2009;5:292–293.
394 OCCUPATIONAL MEDICINE
Downloaded from http://occmed.oxfordjournals.org/

You hit the nail right on the head there Fairgo!
Hes a self opinionated, self important pompos little man!
He acts more like a detective than any Dr Iv ever been to!
At a guess I would say hes been instrumental in this new Rehabilition plan acc are all consumed with at the moment! It has all his trademarks on it!
He treated me like I was a liar, a cheat, and someone to look down on and wipe his feet on
Not a nice man at all!

[MG]

ACC spends millions of your dollars, every year, "communicating its expectations" with your doctors. "Thought leaders in the domain of occupational medicine" are paid a lot of that money, so they can buy McMansions in Central Otago, in return for "communicating" with treating doctors. I am uncertain what form those "communications" take (ie whether they are written, verbal, power point, etc). I will try an OIA request but I think ACC migt be able to frustrate discovery.

[suedem]

I saw Beaumont and you are right, Sunny, he is pompous and he sees himself as a detective. After I told him how many hours I worked he had the nerve to ask "which days" I worked! I put in a complaint about him to the medical council but got nowhere. No doctor has the right to ask you details which are not about your health. He could have been a stalker intending to follow me - his countenance is certainly not reassuring.

He wouldn't continue with his examination of me because he balked at my request that he assure me that he was independent. I had to ask him several times and he squirmed in his seat as he finally agreed to say he was independent. Of course, he is not. E-mails and notes on my file show that there was plenty of background talk going on between my case manager and him.

Naturally, ACC and the doctor accused me of being a bad person. It would all be laughable if it didn't affect your life so much.

[jax]

sunny, on 21 June 2011 - 08:43 PM, said:

Has anyone had any dealings with a Dr David Beaumont please
thanks

Yes .............. he is a total WANKER...... a COMPLETE POMMY PRICK...........NEVER EVER see him or his side kick Nick Yarnell

[jax]

jax, on 27 June 2012 - 07:20 PM, said:

Yes .............. he is a total WANKER...... a COMPLETE POMMY PRICK...........NEVER EVER see him or his side kick Nick Yarnell

I did see Dr Martin Robb as I complained about Beaumont and Yarnell and told ACC I would never see them again!! I found Dr Robb far easier to talk to and he was understanding re my circumstances and he found that I was entitled to be on ACC and my weekly comp was reinstalled. Thankfully there are still doctors out there that still care and listen!!!!!