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Posted 26 April 2011 - 12:28 AM

Can anyone tell me if you are allowed to record your IMA assessment session? Can you request a nurse to be present? what do you suggest I take to the assessment? cheers.
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Posted 26 April 2011 - 07:34 AM

View Postscrumpy, on 26 April 2011 - 12:28 AM, said:

Can anyone tell me if you are allowed to record your IMA assessment session? Can you request a nurse to be present? what do you suggest I take to the assessment? cheers.

You are allowed to record any conversation involving yourself. But be aware that ACC arsessors are deeming claimants to be non-compliant if they request permission to record.

You would be very foolish not to take a support person (witness) with you to your assessment.

Ask ACC to send you a copy of the information they have provided to the arsessor.

Provide ACC a copy of any medical reports that they inadvertently ommitted & request that ACC forwards copies of those documents to the arsessor prior to the assessment.

Take an additional copy of those reports (and covering letter to ACC as above) to the assessment as well. ACC is unfortunately very lax in providing additional info to their assessors so better safe than sorry.
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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:18 AM

you can record it, but they will tell you you cant

check the desk as soon as you go in, there will be a dictaphone on there, that they will have switched on before you walk in!

I recorded mine, but not out in the open, and will save this information for court!!!!


you can provide any documents you want to strenghten your case, but you would be better off, keeping note of what acc didnt provide, and gathering this info to use in a review, or an appeal...plavce these documents before the "judge"

the reson i say this, the last 2 IMA , have fruadulently missed documents, when I did provide them they were NOT used to write the ACC Doctors report

the acc doc was told to write whatever, as long as he said i was capable of fdulltime work...so therefore I was disintiled AGAIN, with a severe neck injury, and b neurological complications, and medication side effects.

this is ongoing, and now waiting to go to DRS.....

be aware, there is a hard drive on to deny, disempower and diesentitle.

record and take support person, plus insist on knowing what the qualifications are of the acc doc chaperone!!!

good luck
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Posted 26 April 2011 - 12:33 PM

Give the assessor all the infomation you have to support how many hours a week you can work at each of the jobs identified. Take a letter from your GP supporting this. You can take any support person you wish. I took a GP to a IMA. Ask questions as to how many hours does he think you can work at each job, and why does he beleive you can work these hours when GP or specialist says you cannot.
The more information you give the assessor the better. Do not let him hurry the assessment.
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Posted 26 April 2011 - 01:05 PM

You should take a document like this that suits you assessment for each job.

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Job Summaries

91412 Loader and/or checker

Due to the injury, many of the duties in this occupation are working in all weather conditions, lifting and carrying are constant, repetitive movements are frequent, driving of forklifts and other equipment frequent and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. The PSTD has limited my thinking and organising skills making this occupational impossible to carry out.

41312 Dispatch and Receiving Clerk

The duties in this occupation require fine motor skill work for filling out dispatch notes, exposure to current weather conditions, constant standing, lifting and carrying constantly, driving of forklifts, use of minor office and hand tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Working in cold weather affects the extremities as in the medical reports from specialists. This occupation is therefore impracticable.

41311 Stock Clerk

Stock Clerk duties include standing, lifting and carrying, repetitive arm hand and finger movements are constant, use of minor office tools are frequent and require mental skills of organisation and practical. The use of minor office tools is very limited as hands swell when in constant use. This is the known fact with my injury that there is a very limited time period that the hands can be used.

91411 Packer

Packer involves standing constantly, lifting and carrying, repetitive hand movements are common, cold conditions are common and requires mental skills of organisation. Repetitive hand movements cause severe aggravation and subsequently pain in hands as per medical reports therefore this occupation is out of my capability.

91514 General Labourer

General labourer is the position I held at ***** where my injury originated from. Labouring involves tasks of working outdoors (or cold) constant standing, heavy lifting carrying and pulling or pushing frequently, and repetitive movements frequently. As it was this former occupation that caused the injury, this type of occupation for me to participate in should be dismissed, as it will only aggravate my injury further.

91111 Cleaner

Cleaning duties involve gripping with the hands to sweep, scrub, and polishing floors. Outdoor work, standing constantly, light to medium lifting or pulling and repetitive movements are also a necessity of this occupation. Medical reports state gripping or repetitive motions aggravate my injury it is therefore applicable that this occupation is again outside of my capabilities and should be avoided so as to not aggravate my injury.


41443 General Clerk

General clerk includes duties of repetitive arm hand and finger movements on a constant basis, use of hand tools on a frequent basis and requires sound level of keyboarding, mental skills of organisation and practical. Again this occupation is out of my capabilities because of repetitiveness in the duties it is therefore impracticable that this occupation be recommended.


41444 Office Machine Operator

Machine operator has duties of loading of paper and insertion of stencils, standing frequently, lifting and carrying, use of minor office tools, carry out repairs and adjustments and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Fine skills such as loading of machinery and use of minor office tools should be avoided as per medical reports. Standing is also an issue because pain from standing for periods dissabilitates me. My injury prevents me from carrying out many of the duties involved in this occupation and so therefore should be avoided.

41412 Record and Filing Clerk

Record and filing clerk is another occupation that has duties of operating binding and covering equipment, standing frequently, lifting and carrying, repetitive arm hand and finger movements, use of minor hand tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Lifting and carrying should be avoided as these alone aggravate my injury.

33422 Teacher Aide

Teacher Aide is an occupation that I am very familiar with. I am unable to carry out many of the duties in this occupation as it involves standing frequently, lifting carrying and holding, repetitive movements with hands, use of tools and power tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. My PTSD diagnosis prevents me from mental skills and practicable skills. The lifting and repetitiveness of the duties also would be a factor on aggravation of my injury. As I am involved in this occupation at ******* ********* I am able to recognise that many of the duties are outside of my capability and therefore this occupation is impossible for me to do on a full time basis.


31142 Computer Systems Technician

Computer system technician is what my social employment is currently classified as. Although this job is an excellent occupation it is still outside of my capabilities to do this over a prolonged period. Duties in this occupation include machine repair and maintenance, standing frequently, medium lifting, use of hand tools and power tools, repetitive movements on a frequent basis and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. My injury deteriorates with repetitiveness and lifting. The need for fine motor skills is also affected by my injury. Many of the duties are unable to be conducted by myself and frequently the use of students to contribute to the duties is the only thing that allows me to continue this social occupation at the school. It is therefore noted that this occupation is impracticable during the course of a full day.


83212 Light Truck or Van Driver

Light truck or van driver involves many duties that are outside of my capability. These include working in all weather conditions, lifting and carrying frequently, repetitive hand and arm movements on a frequent basis, driving frequently and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. It is noted in medical reports that my driving capability of around 2 to 3 hours in any day contributes to increased pain and swelling of the hands. It is also noted occupations that involve working in cold conditions need to be avoided; therefore this occupation is again not a viable option.

52111 Sales Assistant (Electronic and Related Goods)

Sales assistant is an occupation I am familiar with from when I was employed at the computer/video shop. Duties of writing invoices or dockets, standing frequently, lift and pass items, lifting pulling or carrying, repetitive hand and finger movements on a frequent basis, use of hand tools frequently and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. Handling of items such as money is unable to be pursued. Lack of fine motor skills and no sensory feeling in hands and repetitiveness prevents me from pursuing this occupation.


82922 Electric and Electronic Equipment Assembler

Electric and electronic equipment assembler includes duties of standing constantly, frequently on concrete floors, handling tools on a frequent basis, many tasks are repetitive, use of hand power and machine tools and requires mental skills of organisation and practical. As my injury involves sensory loss, electrical shocks and heat extremities are not detected until damage has been done. The repetitive movements in this occupation are also a factor that it aggravates my injury and causes pain and stiffness. This occupation need to be kept well clear of as it's potentially a life threatening situation for me to be engaged in.


Of cause you need to put down you own options and capabilities

If you do it before the assessment and supply it at the assessment then the Doctor will not ask the misleading question

Make sure you give the reason and always state your injury and it is your injury preventing you to look at that type of occupation.

When this was presented to the Assessor he recomended the claimant not to undergo any further IMA as they will not reduce any of the compensation.
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Posted 26 April 2011 - 07:11 PM

Ask ACC for a copy of anything sent to the assessor so that you may add to it if required. Ask to have the copy b4 you go for the assessment. Get your mileage form :-)
Video if possible - audio at the very least - quietly and at all times polite...
Be like a Scott - be prepared.
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Posted 27 April 2011 - 03:32 AM

View Postscrumpy, on 26 April 2011 - 12:28 AM, said:

Can anyone tell me if you are allowed to record your IMA assessment session? Can you request a nurse to be present? what do you suggest I take to the assessment? cheers.


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View Postnot their victim, on 26 April 2011 - 10:18 AM, said:

you can record it, but they will tell you you cant

check the desk as soon as you go in, there will be a dictaphone on there, that they will have switched on before you walk in!

I recorded mine, but not out in the open, and will save this information for court!!!!


you can provide any documents you want to strenghten your case, but you would be better off, keeping note of what acc didnt provide, and gathering this info to use in a review, or an appeal...plavce these documents before the "judge"

the reson i say this, the last 2 IMA , have fruadulently missed documents, when I did provide them they were NOT used to write the ACC Doctors report

the acc doc was told to write whatever, as long as he said i was capable of fdulltime work...so therefore I was disintiled AGAIN, with a severe neck injury, and b neurological complications, and medication side effects.

this is ongoing, and now waiting to go to DRS.....

be aware, there is a hard drive on to deny, disempower and diesentitle.

record and take support person, plus insist on knowing what the qualifications are of the acc doc chaperone!!!

good luck

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