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#1 User is offline   Campy 

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 09:59 AM

New jail time plan for cyber bullies
Published: 5:46AM Wednesday May 28, 2014 Source: Fairfax

  • Posted ImageA teenager using a laptop to surf the internet. - Source: ONE News
Cyber bullies could be jailed for up to two years for sending messages or posting material that causes harm, following recommendations from a parliamentary committee.

Internet providers will also be forced to reveal the identity of an offending anonymous poster, under order from the District Court.

School principals will also be permitted to ask a court to take down malicious or nasty content on behalf of a student.

The Government introduced a bill last year to tackle online abuse. Parliament's justice and electoral select committee has now reported back with a raft of amendments to toughen up the legislation - which Justice Minister Judith Collins has accepted.

The committee wants the higher maximum penalty for the new offence of "causing harm by posting a digital communication" to be raised from three months in jail, or a $2000 fine, to two years in jail. This would bring the sentence in line with other harassment offences.

"We consider it important that harassment in the physical world and online be dealt with consistently," the report says.

It also recommends raising the penalty for non-compliance with a court order to six months imprisonment, or a $5000 fine, and $20,000 for a body corporate.

AdvertisementIn a move that would target anonymous cyber bullies, the committee says the District Court should be granted power to make an order against an Internet Protocol Address Provider (IPAP) to release the identity of a hidden "communicator".

The committee wants to give school principals the option of asking a court to step in to protect children from online abuse. It recommends they be able to apply for an order "mitigating harm, by means including the taking down of material, concerning a student at their institution".

MPs also believe the author of material subject to a complaint be given 48 hours to respond.

The legislation is based on a 2012 report from the Law Commission, but was introduced to Parliament in November amid the furore of the Roast Busters scandal. It creates a new offence of inciting someone to commit suicide, which carries a maximum three-year jail sentence.
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 10:20 AM

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Good stuff Campy ...and just figuring or musing about how to correlate it to this website or other issues found within adult forums perhaps?

For example with this statement,

"Internet providers will also be forced to reveal the identity of an offending anonymous poster, under order from the District Court"

I am wondering that if there is a SHARED troll account then it will automatically include the real life identities of every individual ISP which used it?

I am also taking it as granted that if just one troll is snapped - then if the others have gameplayed with devices or driveway locations ..then the District Court would expect the real life person before them ... to either properly identify his gang or carry the can for the lot etc


...........

OR with this one,

"It also recommends raising the penalty for non-compliance with a court order to six months imprisonment, or a $5000 fine, and $20,000 for a body corporate."

I am guessing this risk would likely extend to our website administrator if enacted perhaps?


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and
"MPs also believe the author of material subject to a complaint be given 48 hours to respond."

This suggests to me that there must always be human oversight 24/7 on our forum ie robot software would not suffice with respect to legal accountability etc

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Posted 28 May 2014 - 01:58 PM

Here is a link to the story in post #1

Jail plan for cyber bullies
ANDREA VANCE
Last updated 05:00 28/05/2014

http://www.stuff.co....r-cyber-bullies
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Posted 28 May 2014 - 03:35 PM

oh dear....


looks like a few of the cyber-bullies will get exactly what is owed to them...

or, if not, jungle justice prevails lol
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Posted 29 May 2014 - 11:42 PM

Thank you Blurb. This too: http://tvnz.co.nz/na...bullies-5983523

View PostBLURB, on 28 May 2014 - 01:58 PM, said:

Here is a link to the story in post #1

Jail plan for cyber bullies
ANDREA VANCE
Last updated 05:00 28/05/2014

http://www.stuff.co....r-cyber-bullies

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 01:27 AM

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B.U.M.P. a few reminders fyi

View Postanonymousey, on 28 May 2014 - 10:20 AM, said:

Good stuff Campy ...and just figuring or musing about how to correlate it to this website or other issues found within adult forums perhaps?

For example with this statement,

"Internet providers will also be forced to reveal the identity of an offending anonymous poster, under order from the District Court"

I am wondering that if there is a SHARED troll account then it will automatically include the real life identities of every individual ISP which used it?

I am also taking it as granted that if just one troll is snapped - then if the others have gameplayed with devices or driveway locations ..then the District Court would expect the real life person before them ... to either properly identify his gang or carry the can for the lot etc


...........

OR with this one,

"It also recommends raising the penalty for non-compliance with a court order to six months imprisonment, or a $5000 fine, and $20,000 for a body corporate."

I am guessing this risk would likely extend to our website administrator if enacted perhaps?


...........

and
"MPs also believe the author of material subject to a complaint be given 48 hours to respond."

This suggests to me that there must always be human oversight 24/7 on our forum ie robot software would not suffice with respect to legal accountability etc



ps also remembers that these trolls when identified may also next be required to reimburse any & all costs with forensic auditing processes required too. Sorry I am not sure of current professional charges but here is an older statement which was uploaded to this forum when discussions were being held between various members concerning legal accountability & liability with the Roles of Trustees and the original forum administrator [vulnerable teenager when forum established] and potential NZ Police investigations &or criminal charges against trolls....


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Domains By Proxy will charge the person or entity submitting the civil subpoena for costs associated with subpoena compliance. Payment must be made within thirty (30) days from the date of receipt of the Domains By Proxy invoice. Checks should be made out to Domains By Proxy

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ps AFAIK all past administrators, moderators &or Trustees, except for Alan Thomas, have now resigned from various formal or informal administrative roles ...

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Posted 19 September 2016 - 05:09 PM

Thomas is allowing his criminal cohorts payback!

All because I pointed out Judge Barber never sentenced Thomas

Seriously pissed off demented criminal minds. ..

NARCISSISTIC CRIMINAL INTENT....

GOOGLE NEEDS TO PULL DOWN THIS ABUSIVE DEN OF INIQUITY....

NOTTINGHAM, SLATER AND THIS PLACE...

DANGEROUS FUCKING NUTTERS
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Posted 20 September 2016 - 09:09 AM

Oh

And stop using a psychiatrist Dermot. ..

It's not helping you...
you are as unstable as ever...

Using stress and

" they,re being mean to me, they're all being mean to me"

Is only delaying the inevitable....

And it's inevitable that those who threaten the

injured,

disabled,

sensitive claimants,

women,

People under mental v physical injury

genuine advocates,

the ACC,

the police,

politicians,

the judiciary

The government


Will end up in the mason clinic....

There is no fixing some people. ..
Some don't want to be fixed
They are happy in their dysfunction

So best put them in a safe place where they do no further harm....
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Posted 01 February 2017 - 10:07 AM

David Butler has a Memorandum of Understanding written up by

Dermot Nottingham and signed by Robert Earle McKinney

This memo states that David would

NOT EXPOSE DERMOT ANTS AND BOB AS BEING

TEAM LAUDAFINUM......

THEY IN TURN WOULD ONLY USE THE TAPES FOR

"RESEARCH"

DERMOT PUBLISHED THE EPITAPH TAPES ON

LAUDAFINUM.COM AND CALLED BUTLER ALL SORTS

OF NAMES

BUTLER RETALIATED AND THREATENED TO FUCK

LAUDAFINUM OVER !..

BUTLER RANG A JOURNALIST AS WELL TO EXPOSE

TEAM LAUDAFINUM..

BUTLER IS SCARED OF GIVING THIS EVIDENCE TO

THE POLICE..

IN FACT HAS LIED TO THE NZ POLICE


BUTLER SET UP HIS OWN WEBSITE TO TAUNT AND

THREATEN WOMEN FROM THE FORUM UNDER THE

SAME FORMAT AS LAUDAFINUM...

THE VERY PEOOLE HE PROFESSES TO HATE YET

WANTS TO "FUCK OVER....


LETS SEE HOW BUTLER DOES AS A "HOSTILE"
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Posted 01 February 2017 - 01:11 PM

View Postnot their victim, on 01 February 2017 - 10:07 AM, said:

David Butler has a Memorandum of Understanding written up by

Dermot Nottingham and signed by Robert Earle McKinney

This memo states that David would

NOT EXPOSE DERMOT ANTS AND BOB AS BEING

TEAM LAUDAFINUM......

THEY IN TURN WOULD ONLY USE THE TAPES FOR

"RESEARCH"

DERMOT PUBLISHED THE EPITAPH TAPES ON

LAUDAFINUM.COM AND CALLED BUTLER ALL SORTS

OF NAMES

BUTLER RETALIATED AND THREATENED TO FUCK

LAUDAFINUM OVER !..

BUTLER RANG A JOURNALIST AS WELL TO EXPOSE

TEAM LAUDAFINUM..

BUTLER IS SCARED OF GIVING THIS EVIDENCE TO

THE POLICE..

IN FACT HAS LIED TO THE NZ POLICE


BUTLER SET UP HIS OWN WEBSITE TO TAUNT AND

THREATEN WOMEN FROM THE FORUM UNDER THE

SAME FORMAT AS LAUDAFINUM...

THE VERY PEOOLE HE PROFESSES TO HATE YET

WANTS TO "FUCK OVER....


LETS SEE HOW BUTLER DOES AS A "HOSTILE"

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Posted 01 February 2017 - 08:29 PM

http://accforum.org/...1409#entry41409

AUDIT TAGS FOR BATTLEAXE

WRITTEN BY SHE HERSELF....

SO I CANT BE ACCUSED OF LYING

I WASNT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM
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Posted 02 February 2017 - 03:00 AM

View Postnot their victim, on 01 February 2017 - 08:29 PM, said:

http://accforum.org/...1409#entry41409

AUDIT TAGS FOR BATTLEAXE

WRITTEN BY SHE HERSELF....

SO I CANT BE ACCUSED OF LYING

I WASNT A MEMBER OF THE FORUM




Liar. Proven liar in fact. Manipulator of the truth. Intentionally wanting to cause others harm. Shameless.
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Posted 02 February 2017 - 09:40 AM

Like the harm you have caused Brucey Mini and I...
You and Piper with your mistaken identity and persecution of an innocent man

BRINGING UP DEATH THREATS AGAIN BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO PERSECUTE PEOPLE WHO WERE NEVER INVOLVED IN THE "TAG TEAM"

GET FUCKED LADY....

You have no explanation for your behaviour..
So report away....

And i will retaliate anyways i see fit...

RABBITTING ON ABOUT MINI FOR A WHOLE THREAD WHEN MINI WASNT EVEN ONLINE THEN BLAMING ANONYMOUSEY...DUMB BITCH!

Oh and fyi

Its kowtow...not cowtail....!

AND there are some things that just cant be fixed.. .f.i.t.h is one of them...

So go scream your big red shouty letters to netsafe ...
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Posted 02 February 2017 - 11:24 AM

View Postnot their victim, on 02 February 2017 - 09:40 AM, said:

Like the harm you have caused Brucey Mini and I...
You and Piper with your mistaken identity and persecution of an innocent man

BRINGING UP DEATH THREATS AGAIN BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO PERSECUTE PEOPLE WHO WERE NEVER INVOLVED IN THE "TAG TEAM"

GET FUCKED LADY....

You have no explanation for your behaviour..
So report away....

And i will retaliate anyways i see fit...

RABBITTING ON ABOUT MINI FOR A WHOLE THREAD WHEN MINI WASNT EVEN ONLINE THEN BLAMING ANONYMOUSEY...DUMB BITCH!

Oh and fyi

Its kowtow...not cowtail....!

AND there are some things that just cant be fixed.. .f.i.t.h is one of them...

So go scream your big red shouty letters to netsafe ...

NTV I COULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT BETTER ...HERE HERE.!!!!!!!
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Posted 02 February 2017 - 01:18 PM

View Postnot their victim, on 02 February 2017 - 09:40 AM, said:

Like the harm you have caused Brucey Mini and I...
You and Piper with your mistaken identity and persecution of an innocent man

BRINGING UP DEATH THREATS AGAIN BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO PERSECUTE PEOPLE WHO WERE NEVER INVOLVED IN THE "TAG TEAM"

GET FUCKED LADY....

You have no explanation for your behaviour..
So report away....

And i will retaliate anyways i see fit...

RABBITTING ON ABOUT MINI FOR A WHOLE THREAD WHEN MINI WASNT EVEN ONLINE THEN BLAMING ANONYMOUSEY...DUMB BITCH!

Oh and fyi

Its kowtow...not cowtail....!

AND there are some things that just cant be fixed.. .f.i.t.h is one of them...

So go scream your big red shouty letters to netsafe ...




Note you call me "lady". Recognition of something you can only dream of but will never be.


Oh, and it is"cow-tail". http://www.english-s.../1557-cows-tail
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Posted 02 February 2017 - 01:19 PM

View Postcocoa1, on 02 February 2017 - 11:24 AM, said:

NTV I COULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT BETTER ...HERE HERE.!!!!!!!


Posted Today, 11:24 AM

Posted Imagenot their victim, on 02 February 2017 - 09:40 AM, said:

Like the harm you have caused Brucey Mini and I...
You and Piper with your mistaken identity and persecution of an innocent man

BRINGING UP DEATH THREATS AGAIN BECAUSE YOU CHOSE TO PERSECUTE PEOPLE WHO WERE NEVER INVOLVED IN THE "TAG TEAM"

GET FUCKED LADY....

You have no explanation for your behaviour..
So report away....

And i will retaliate anyways i see fit...

RABBITTING ON ABOUT MINI FOR A WHOLE THREAD WHEN MINI WASNT EVEN ONLINE THEN BLAMING ANONYMOUSEY...DUMB BITCH!

Oh and fyi

Its kowtow...not cowtail....!

AND there are some things that just cant be fixed.. .f.i.t.h is one of them...

So go scream your big red shouty letters to netsafe ...

NTV I COULD NOT HAVE SAID THAT BETTER ...HERE HERE.!!!!!!!

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 12:53 PM

This Forum is currently being subjected to Trolling by an individual who refers to himself as He who pays the piper, and his forum friend Battleaxe.

My self and others have in our possession reports from Netsafe detailing "serious, extensive, and repeated" breaches of the Harmful Digital communications Act by He Who Pays The Piper, AKA Colin Wightman, after having made complaints against him.





He who pays the piper, AKA Colin Wightman, made the following threats against a man called Douglas Weal, falsely believing me to be that person.

He who pays the piper said:



posting # 230562

... when I suggested the possibility of some very kind friends of mine dropping into see him in CROMWELL to give him some healthy advice.

Even more funny, I'm still waiting for the call from down there.

p.s. And no DOUGLAS, one of my mates trains Alsatian dogs, for the Police, so don't rely on that


Posting # =230434

...

They will take you to the outskirts of CROMWELL and give you two choices.


Posting # 230425


Get yourself a new name because I have a lot of friends in the CROMWELL area who, like me, hate scum-bags.


Posting # 230362


I can't wait to catch up with you in CROMWELL to see what sort of scum bag life you live.

I'll drop in at the local first to see if they can give me directions.




Posting # 231625

For those who haven't noticed, ever since "Brucey" was flushed out as to who he actually is, he not only went into defense mode against denying that he is DOUGLAS WEAL who ALAN THOMAS tells us is very dangerous, but has chosen not to make my upcoming visit to him in CROMWELL as welcome, suggesting that I will need to come well armed.

PIPER.

He who pays the piper, on 19 January 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:If DOUGLAS WEAL is not the person who has been stalking me on this FORUM [2000 postings on attack] then my meeting with him will not take long, except that I want to hear his version of the ALAN THOMAS "frame-up" before I leave this lovely town of CROMWELL on my way further south.




He who pays the piper, on 21 January 2017 - 08:27 AM, said:

The only enemies he has are the fruitcakes that framed ALAN THOMAS.

He handed over the evidence of a death threat from DOUGLAS WEAL [Donald Duck with bullet holes around him] which showed that TOMCAT & ANGRYMAN were working with ACC to bring false charges against ALAN THOMAS as DAVID BUTLER knew the truth.

A "double crosser" who was under the 'gun, discouraged from turning up a court.




He who pays the piper, on 04 January 2017 - 07:27 PM, said:

Just when I thought that at least 80% of contributors to ACC forum sites were fruitcakes, fraudsters and freaks, I kindly received today damning evidence that there is an almost conclusive chance that TOMCATS mate DOUGLAS WEAL is none other than our simpleton BRUCEY [Former: Angryman] who has spent the last 33 years trying to upgrade himself to ACC so that he can grow even fatter and lazier in his latest hiding place down there in CROMWELL.

For those less familiar, this is the bloke that ALAN THOMAS tells us master-minded the bomb plot frame-up against him and gave evidence to that effect as a CROWN WITNESS in the District Court.

Before I close the book on this little saga I would like to give this half-wit calling himself BRUCEY an opportunity to defend himself of this identity connection.

Rather than repeating himself for the last 1500 posts [the work of a total fruitcake] I will be so kind as to give him the chance to defend himself.

( In other words if I tell him my real name, he will stop telling lies about me).



He who pays the piper, on 16 March 2017 - 09:52 AM, said:

And not long to work out that "BRUCEYs" associate here in IRENE has trouble with her lift going to the top.

But even funnier when the JUDGE finds out that one of them has a 23 year history with ACC [multiple & variable claims], while the other one has a 33 year history with his hand out.

Not forgetting their leader of course who specialises in double dipping ACC.

And driving buses through loopholes in ACC.

Using the mentally ill card.







He also had the following comments to make about my daughter who is a rape victim.



" Is your daughter a simpleton like you Brucey?

Brucey do you mind me asking please what does Lupine charge for a duped claim of “toxicity” and one for “promiscuity”?

Good to see simpleton Brucey coming up with something original. To think he bred his own kind. A downgrading of the human race.

I’m guessing Brucey is playing the “mentally ill” card [genetic related] while his daughter [a product of the old man] is playing the “sensitive claim” card. A family of scabbers.

While Brucey of course is on a “family deal”.

I’m sure they are looking after you. 10 years on the scab and growing. As for the “family deal” the apple never falls far from the “tree”.
And dear old simpleton Bruce with a daughter who is apparently as simple as him."




Battleaxe is on record as supporting piper in his attacks on me and has stated the following.



"Silence speaks louder than words, Piper. I think that the above posting speaks volumes and that Douglas Weal is indeed "Brucey" previously "Angryman".

Perhaps Alan Thomas can fill in the gaps?


"I did not speculate about who "Brucey" is. Piper did, but that said, I agree with his view that "Angryman" / "Brucey" is Douglas Weal".



"By the way, Douglas Weal aka "Angryman" aka "Brucey" does not need to pretend he is "stupid" as I for one consider him to be very stupid. Just read any one of his posts to see the level of intellect you're dealing with here".


Battle axe has also on two occasions stated that I have twice in my postings incited people to commit suicide.

She has not provided any proof of this vile and serious accusation.


_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________





Angryman was my previous moniker, and does not belong to Douglas Weal.

I have never been involved in any way shape or form in any threats or in the bringing of false charges against anyone.



I have never been diagnosed with a mental illness, I have only been on ACC for two years following a serious MC accident.

I have worked and paid ACC levies for over fourty years.






Because I think you are a very dangerous individual Colin Wightman and I believe Douglas Weal could very well be in danger I am telling you that My name is not Douglas Weal.

My name is Bruce, my friends call me Brucey, but you can call me sir.

I have let you rabbit on for long enough, time to show the forum what a complete fool and a danger to society you are.







(1) A person commits an offence if—
(a) the person posts a digital communication with the intention that it cause harm to a victim; and
/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/> posting the communication would cause harm to an ordinary reasonable person in the position of the victim; and
© posting the communication causes harm to the victim.

(2) In determining whether a post would cause harm, the court may take into account any factors it considers relevant, including—
(a) the extremity of the language used:
(/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/> the age and characteristics of the victim:
© whether the digital communication was anonymous:
(d) whether the digital communication was repeated:
(e) the extent of circulation of the digital communication:
(f) whether the digital communication is true or false:
(g) the context in which the digital communication appeared..

(3) A person who commits an offence against this section is liable on conviction to,—
(a) in the case of a natural person, imprisonment for a term not exceeding 2 years or a fine not exceeding $50,000:
(/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/>/> in the case of a body corporate, a fine not exceeding $200,000.
(4) In this section, victim means the individual who is the target of a posted digital communication.

Despite Colin Wightman having a Netsafe report against him detailing repeated and serious breaches of the HDCA, he persists on a daily basis with his attacks on myself and others, assisted by his trolling mate Battleaxe.





DON'T FEED THE TROLL Colin Wightman. or his trolling partner Battleaxe.


This Forum is currently being subjected to Trolling by an individual who refers to himself as He who pays the piper, real name Colin Wightman. This Troll likes to throw around accusations so that people feel they have to justify themselves to him. This is standard Troll practice. No one owes this Troll any sort of explanation and anyone who engages with this Troll thus is simply making the Troll feel relevant.

This Troll likes to target women and Sensitive Claimants especially though the Troll will attack and abuse anyone who dares to fail to follow his line. He has made comments that could be seen as inciting criminal activity. The Troll likes to think he has some special secret process where he can make ACC accountable but this boasting is the actions of a Fantasist. New members are encouraged to avoid engagement with this Troll.
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Posted 25 March 2017 - 05:40 PM

Yes, certainly appears so.

View Postnot their victim, on 28 May 2014 - 03:35 PM, said:

oh dear....


looks like a few of the cyber-bullies will get exactly what is owed to them...

or, if not, jungle justice prevails lol




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Posted 12 April 2017 - 07:30 PM

View Postnot their victim, on 28 May 2014 - 03:35 PM, said:

oh dear....


looks like a few of the cyber-bullies will get exactly what is owed to them...

or, if not, jungle justice prevails lol

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Posted 12 April 2017 - 07:49 PM

This Forum is currently being subjected to Trolling by an individual who refers to himself as He who pays the piper, and his forum girlfriend Battleaxe.







He who pays the piper, AKA Colin Wightman, made the following threats against a man called Douglas Weal, falsely believing me to be that person.

He who pays the piper said:



posting # 230562

... when I suggested the possibility of some very kind friends of mine dropping into see him in CROMWELL to give him some healthy advice.

Even more funny, I'm still waiting for the call from down there.

p.s. And no DOUGLAS, one of my mates trains Alsatian dogs, for the Police, so don't rely on that


Posting # =230434

...

They will take you to the outskirts of CROMWELL and give you two choices.


Posting # 230425


Get yourself a new name because I have a lot of friends in the CROMWELL area who, like me, hate scum-bags.


Posting # 230362


I can't wait to catch up with you in CROMWELL to see what sort of scum bag life you live.

I'll drop in at the local first to see if they can give me directions.




Posting # 231625

For those who haven't noticed, ever since "Brucey" was flushed out as to who he actually is, he not only went into defense mode against denying that he is DOUGLAS WEAL who ALAN THOMAS tells us is very dangerous, but has chosen not to make my upcoming visit to him in CROMWELL as welcome, suggesting that I will need to come well armed.

PIPER.

He who pays the piper, on 19 January 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:If DOUGLAS WEAL is not the person who has been stalking me on this FORUM [2000 postings on attack] then my meeting with him will not take long, except that I want to hear his version of the ALAN THOMAS "frame-up" before I leave this lovely town of CROMWELL on my way further south.




He who pays the piper, on 21 January 2017 - 08:27 AM, said:

The only enemies he has are the fruitcakes that framed ALAN THOMAS.

He handed over the evidence of a death threat from DOUGLAS WEAL [Donald Duck with bullet holes around him] which showed that TOMCAT & ANGRYMAN were working with ACC to bring false charges against ALAN THOMAS as DAVID BUTLER knew the truth.

A "double crosser" who was under the 'gun'.

Discouraged from turning up at court.He who pays the piper, on 04 January 2017 - 07:27 PM, said:

Just when I thought that at least 80% of contributors to ACC forum sites were fruitcakes, fraudsters and freaks, I kindly received today damning evidence that there is an almost conclusive chance that TOMCATS mate DOUGLAS WEAL is none other than our simpleton BRUCEY [Former: Angryman] who has spent the last 33 years trying to upgrade himself to ACC so that he can grow even fatter and lazier in his latest hiding place down there in CROMWELL.

For those less familiar, this is the bloke that ALAN THOMAS tells us master-minded the bomb plot frame-up against him and gave evidence to that effect as a CROWN WITNESS in the District Court.

Before I close the book on this little saga I would like to give this half-wit calling himself BRUCEY an opportunity to defend himself of this identity connection.

Rather than repeating himself for the last 1500 posts [the work of a total fruitcake] I will be so kind as to give him the chance to defend himself.

Over to you DOUGLAS.

PIPER.


He also had the following comments to make about my daughter who is a rape victim.



" Is your daughter a simpleton like you Brucey?

Brucey do you mind me asking please what does Lupine charge for a duped claim of “toxicity” and one for “promiscuity”?

Good to see simpleton Brucey coming up with something original. To think he bred his own kind. A downgrading of the human race.

I’m guessing Brucey is playing the “mentally ill” card [genetic related] while his daughter [a product of the old man] is playing the “sensitive claim” card. A family of scabbers.

While Brucey of course is on a “family deal”.

I’m sure they are looking after you. 10 years on the scab and growing. As for the “family deal” the apple never falls far from the “tree”.
And dear old simpleton Bruce with a daughter who is apparently as simple as him."




Battleaxe is on record as supporting piper in his attacks on me and has stated the following.



Silence speaks louder than words, Piper. I think that the above posting speaks volumes and that Douglas Weal is indeed "Brucey" previously "Angryman".

Perhaps Alan Thomas can fill in the gaps?




I don't argue against your position that members are free to use a moniker (nom de plume) and that you also respect their right to privacy, however, it is not fair or reasonable to think this with only certain members in this case ""Angryman" / "Brucey". So, while you jumped here to defend "Angryman's" / "Brucey's" right to privacy, you have remained silent on the right to privacy of Piper and myself. Why is this Alan? If the boot fits one foot it must surely fit the other foot?



Alan, you did take sides --- read your posting again please. I also ask that you point me to a posting where you have ever pointed out that Piper and I have a right to privacy too as obviously I missed that.

I did not speculate about who "Brucey" is. Piper did, but that said, I agree with his view that "Angryman" / "Brucey" is Douglas Weal. He was given the fair opportunity to respond but chose not to do so. As I have already commented, silence speaks volumes.

You are very different to other members, Alan, and if the truth be told this fourm has 'gone to hell in a handbasket' because of you and Lupine's cohort of "trolls" turning it into a battleground where innocent bystanders are being caught up in your fight for territory, power and control.

I bet that if you withdrew your membership from this forum then it would be returned to its former glory in a very short space of time.


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Angryman was my previous moniker, and does not belong to Douglas Weal.

I have never been involved in any way shape or form in any threats or in the bringing of false charges against anyone.


Because I think you are a very dangerous individual Colin Wightman and I believe Douglas Weal could very well be in danger I am telling you that My name is not Douglas Weal.

My name is Bruce, my friends call me Brucey, but you can call me sir.

I have let you rabbit on for long enough, time to show the forum what a complete fool and a danger to society you are.





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DON'T FEED THE TROLL Colin Wightman.or his mate Rex, AKA Philip Bonner.


This Forum is currently being subjected to Trolling by an individual who refers to himself as He who pays the piper, real name Colin Wightman. This Troll likes to throw around accusations so that people feel they have to justify themselves to him. This is standard Troll practice. No one owes this Troll any sort of explanation and anyone who engages with this Troll thus is simply making the Troll feel relevant.

This Troll likes to target women and Sensitive Claimants especially though the Troll will attack and abuse anyone who dares to fail to follow his line. He has made comments that could be seen as inciting criminal activity. The Troll likes to think he has some special secret process where he can make ACC accountable but this boasting is the actions of a Fantasist. New members are encouraged to avoid engagement with this Troll.


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