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WELFARE REFORM, THE HEALTH AND DISABILITY PANEL, MSD, THE TRUTH BEHIND THE AGENDA A comprehensive, revealing analysis and resource summary w. comments

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:24 AM

'The Health and Disability Panel ' and its hand-picked Members, who advised the M.S.D. and Paula Bennett on welfare reforms, and thus the Social Security (Benefit Categories and Work Focus) Amendment Act:





A). Welfare Reforms, the ' Health and Disability Panel', the " Welfare Working Group" and policies relying on flawed UK "advice " by Mansel Aylward and Carol Black



The draconian, misguided and potentially harmful welfare reforms pushed through by the present National led government since September 2012, and which came into force on 15 July 2013, were already designed and decided on as policies by early 2010. Since late 2011 Paula Bennett, as Minster for Social Development (and her Ministry), also stated repeatedly, that they were getting advice on core aspects of the new policies and reforms by a so-called Health and Disability Panel", made up of a range of " experts". Their involvement appears to have been regarded as necessary, to consider and "advise " them on aspects of the reforms that affect those on benefits, who suffer from longer or permanent sickness and disability.



It was in October 2011, that the Cabinet of the National led government agreed on, and set the final parameters for these radical reforms to the welfare system in New Zealand. The foundation for it all was laid by deciding on a clear agenda to follow and push through, and to introduce completely new benefit categories, new stringent work assessment criteria, to introduce much harsher sanctions and to prepare for establishing new processes, which would lead to pressure sick, disabled and incapacitated beneficiaries back into work. The welfare system was being re-designed to become more restrictive, more demanding and indeed more punitive, although the misleading language used was often claiming the very opposite.



The plans agreed on then did largely follow the recommendations set by the Welfare Working Group (WWG) and their report (see further below). "Doing nothing " in areas of welfare, where changes were deemed to need a radical overhaul, was described as " not an option". The whole reform agenda was severely criticised by groups representing the affected, including disability and advocacy groups. Also did a number of medical and other professional organisations raise serious concerns, but all this received only occasional media attention in the earlier phase of preparing and introducing the reforms. Even the political opposition did mostly only sporadically comment critically on the proposed reforms. One reason for that was that larger parts of the voting population have over the years become increasingly ill informed and thus prejudicial over social welfare matters. There was shockingly little understanding and sympathy for those receiving benefits, which was aggravated by economic and financial hardship, which followed the Global Financial Crisis.



Cabinet did with the government' s drive to reform the welfare system direct the Ministry of Social Development (MSD) to establish this "Health and Disability Panel ", which was to "consider and advise " them on proposals in this area. The Panel was appointed by Paula Bennett and commissioned to provide “specialist” and “expert” advice on welfare reform changes for sick and disabled people. Issues concerning the access to the benefit system and assessment of work capability were the main areas they were tasked to look at.



The Panel of 14 persons appears to have been chosen on advice by certain senior staff members within the Ministry of Social Development - from "professional and stakeholder groups ", from people with experience in disability support "services ", "advocacy ", "general practice ", "occupational medicine ", "rehabilitation ", "physiotherapy ", "supported employment " and "mental health " and "addiction " backgrounds.



This "Health and Disability Panel " did after its appointment meet first in October 2011 and altogether four times until 17 April 2012. There is little or no information about their meetings after that. From that group though, a smaller Panel met separately on two other occasions, and again with a "Joint Ministers ' group " on 02 May 2012.



As it was also the case with the hand-picked members making up the "Welfare Working Group ", the Panel set up to "advise " MSD and the Minister(s) on health and disability matters, and also on work assessments, did not surprisingly support "the direction " of the proposed reforms of the government. They also claimed to recognise that sick and disabled faced other barriers to return to or access work that were "not primarily related to their health condition or impairment ", and were "similar to those faced by some unemployed people ".



Panel members "talked about the need to ask GPs what they know and are trained to do ", and that "there were opportunities to use the skills of other allied health professionals " (e.g. occupational therapists). Issues with overseas assessment models were acknowledged, particularly the Work Capability Assessment in the UK. It was "strongly emphasised " that assessment alone would not achieve the outcomes the government was seeking. Assessments should be linked to services and support for people to return to work (if appropriate), they stated. Also was a "need for a communication strategy " seen by the Panel.



A cabinet paper (see further below) on this notes, that some members of the Panel met with Sir Mansel Aylward and Dame Carol Black. Both of those UK based and often challenged "experts " confirmed the Panel' s view about the UK assessment model, and they emphasized:



* "a person' s motivation is a good indicator of where to begin work-focused initiatives ";

* "people on health-related benefits face barriers to work that are primarily related to social, educational or environmental factors - Sir Mansel suggested that, for many, only 10 - 15 %, of what stops them from working is related to the person' s health condition or impairments ";

* "early assessment and work-focused intervention is needed to ensure that the system itself does not increase detachment from work. "



The reported feedback and above summarised "advice " by the Panel does not surprise given that the members were selected to suit the agenda. It does in a way resemble a scenario, where the prosecution in a case before a court hand-picks the jury for a trial, and then gets the result it had ultimately anticipated. It also doesn' t surprise given the sources of advice.



Following the Panel 's report, a Cabinet Committee decided to adopt the approach to intensify and escalate efforts to "assist " beneficiaries with health and disability issues into work, the longer they stay on benefits. They acknowledged the need to gather a wider range of information on them (e.g. by way of more information sharing, and by using a new "Work Capacity Medical Certificate ", and also the need to make use of "third party expertise ", where it is available. GPs were accepted as needing to focus on health aspects. Re third party involvement a stronger "vocational rehabilitation " and "employment focused services " involvement, for instance for clients with "mental health conditions " were accepted as necessary measures to take.



An actuarial or "investment approach " was adopted, and resources are intended to be directed at reducing "long term benefit dependency ", with the clear intention to "reduce the overall cost of the benefit system ". New services for sick and disabled were proposed to focus on those who can do substantial part time work, or leave the benefit altogether. New delivery models were proposed to be tested, some in coordination with the Ministry of Health.



Prime focus would be put on the former sickness beneficiaries who have since 15 July 2013 already been transferred onto the new Jobseeker Support benefit category.



As already indicated, the Health and Disability Panel " delivered their work based on the earlier, practically guiding recommendations by the "Welfare Working Group " (WWG) that had been appointed by Paula Bennett in early 2010. When looking at the processes followed by the earlier WWG and the narrow terms of reference they were expected to follow, it can be said that the WWG took a rather strict and punitive approach to welfare reform, excluded significant matters such as benefit adequacy, WINZ service quality issues, and applied a non-consultative style in working out recommendations and their final report.



This was some of the major criticism expressed by an "Alternative Welfare Working Group " (see other information further below) that was established by church and other leaders concerned about the WWG, its composition and ill-designed approach.



What is clear, is the fact that the 14 persons on the "Health and Disability Panel " that Paula Bennett, her Ministry and then also Cabinet considered as being "experts ", were actually not as independent as has been claimed. The members were clearly selected by MSD, Paula Bennett and her advisors, who already had determined intentions and goals of the policies and reforms. There appears to have been no outside input in their selection. So that can hardly be seen as truly independent. As I already stated, it may be compared to one party in a trial before a court being allowed to choose and appoint the members of a jury to decide on a case.



The lack of true "independence " can also be seen by looking at the very members ' individual backgrounds, their professional, personal and business interests and their personal, subjective views on crucial aspects of the intended reforms. Even if there may have been one or the other critical opinion, the composition of the Panel was clearly weighing in favour of the proposed reforms. The Minister was indeed reluctant to disclose the names of the Panel members, until the NZ Doctor magazine requested them by an O.I.A. request. I will list, introduce and comment on the individual members a bit further below!



What is certainly striking is the fact, that already the "Welfare Working Group " did during a Forum at "Victoria University " in Wellington accept "advice " from persons like the Principal Health Advisor of MSD, Dr David Bratt, who has since at least 2010 been likening benefit dependence to "drug dependenc " - in the many "presentations " he gave to general practitioner-, medical trainer- and other conferences and meetings. He has himself repeatedly and continuously quoted selected bits of statistics and supposed research information that can be questioned. They' re largely based on "reports " and "findings " by only certain selected "experts " (controversial health professionals, statisticians, researchers in various health and disability related fields), who appear to deliver the information that is intended to serve his messages and intentions. Dr Bratt presents this on behalf of the Ministry of Social Development, while he is a clear advocate of the teachings by one Mansel Aylward!



There was also mention and reference to Dame Carol Black in a report by the "Welfare Working Group ". She is in the UK advisor on 'Work and Health ' for the "Department of Health " in England, also Chair of the "Nuffield Trust ", and Chair of the Governance Board, at the "Centre for Workforce Intelligence ". From 2006 to 2011 she was the first "National Director for Health and Work ". She has adopted views based on the "findings " from research done at the "UnumProvident Centre for Psychosocial and Disability Research " at Cardiff University in Wales, which has been headed by controversial Professor Mansel Aylward for about 8 years now. "Unum" sponsored Aylward 's work there.

Again we see, that the repeated claims by Aylward, that "work is good for people 's health ", that this also applies to sick and disabled, and that it can even be "therapeutic ", flowed in to the considerations and report of the Welfare Working Group published in February 2011. In this context it must be remembered that Aylward claims that around 75 or 80 percent of sickness cases are such, where the sufferers simply cling to something he describes as "illness belief ".



Then we can also find that the "Health and Disability Panel ", that was appointed by Paula Bennett in late 2011, did also rely on the same kinds of "findings ", and that some of the members also met with Professor Mansel Aylward and Dame Carol Black, to seek "advice " from them. A senior person on the Panel was Dr David Beaumont, who is himself from the UK and fully convinced of Mansel Aylward 's "findings ". He did himself also work for ATOS Healthcare, the only, outsourced, private enterprise assessor that the Department for Work and Pensions (the WINZ equivalent in the UK) uses. Both Mansel Aylward and Dame Carol Black are mentioned in the "Cabinet Paper C " on the welfare reforms, which can be found via this link:



http://www.msd.govt....-disability.pdf.

Also see this for other info on Dame Black: http://en.wikipedia..../Carol_M._Black



Hence we can draw the conclusions that the various reports, presentations and "advice " by these "experts " from the same school of thought in the UK, have had significant influence on the final report and recommendations by the "Health and Disability Panel ". In the above "Cabinet Paper C on Welfare Reform " it is mentioned that the Panel considered issues with work capability assessments in the UK (see Appendix 3), but this comment must be treated with caution. It appears that only developments in the UK until 2011 were looked at. It is also a fact that medical professional organisations like the Royal Australasian College of Physicians (RACP), the Royal New Zealand College of General Practitioners (RNZCGP), and some other ones, have over the years now also been influenced by repeated presentations, speeches, reports and advice that has come from Professor Mansel Aylward. His version and interpretation of the "bio psycho-social model ", which is complex, yet vague, certainly not undisputed "theoretical " construct, have to a fair degree been adopted by them. That "model " though is controversial and has outspoken critics.



So general practitioners, and possibly some other health professionals, that are members of such organisations, that sat on the "Health and Disability Panel " will naturally also have been conditioned to hold a predetermined view on work in combination with disability and health matters, which will have flowed into the report and recommendations by the Panel, as it was presented to Paula Bennett.



In summary, it must be clear to the informed persons, that the whole agenda to bring in and implement these welfare reforms, which we as sick and disabled are now confronted with, was designed and already predetermined from the very beginning a few years ago. All the so-called "consultation " was only allowed to be with hand-selected persons, who already had a predetermined opinion and view on these matters, and who thus served the government with the very "advice ", that they wanted and needed, to justify their policies and the resulting reform measures.


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 12:58 AM

I know of a Solo mum who has two lovely children. Months ago attended the typical Course people are made to attend or your cut off your benefit. She again obtains another job, via the WINZ process. She has NO money coming in at all once she has been accepted on a job. She had to wait weeks for any payment via her job. This set her back on her Rent, Power etc... Also remember she has to feed two children, one attends intermediate the other high school.

NO money for bus fares, school lunches, or meals. Has an old car that she has managed to get mobile and assists other people needing a lift to the same job by picking them up. She hopes that they will see their way clear to throw a few bob her way for gas, as she has already 'burrowed money' for gas herself to get to the job. She also takes the risk of getting caught with NO current Registration, because she has no funds obviously to be legal.
The Job is quite along way from where she lives.

She and the others are told by WINZ that the job will take them through to Sept this year. Sadly the employer informed them a few weeks ago that he now nolonger has any work for them. The job only lasted approx 4 months. Oh, and they only got paid for the days they worked, they wern't paid a cent if rained off.

So after waiting weeks for her first pay, she is already weeks behind in rent etc. WINZ will NOT backdate anything. NOW she has to go through the very same processes. RING for an appointment (no-one can ever walk in and make an appointment, ever) Wait the typical 3 weeks for your appointment date to roll round, to be told you must enroll again and complete the same WINZ Course that she already completed approx 4 months ago. If she (or anyone) doesn't attend the course they are Cut Off, and stood down from any assistance.

Now again whilst the 3 weeks for an appointment rolls round, 'there is no financial help'. Waits another 2 or so weeks for the WINZ Course to roll round. Still no financial assistance. She attends the WINZ Course, Still waiting for some financial assistance. If NO job rolls up before the course has just ended, she maybe lucky to get some Financial assistance and she will be even luckier to get the Back dated portion of her long awaited financial assistance/benefit so she THEN CAN PAY HER OVER DUE RENT, RE-CONNECT POWER AND pay some folk back the money she would have had to beg for to get by from other really needy poorer folk.

HOWEVER WINZ have a plan for most folk... from the Course they will get you/she to attend even a 'part-time, something' job that again may only last a few weeks. WHY, well it's because once they can sign you off as 'working' again before your 'due financial assistance comes up for processing with Back Dated Arrears, WINZ CANCEL THE PERSONS/HER CLAIM FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND CANCEL ALL THE BACK DATED ARREARS WITH IT.

This person like many others are left in deeper doo doo's. With Rent arrears still hanging, eviction notices sent, Power cut off again etc etc etc... The very same cyclic bullshit...

WHO SUFFERS... 'EVERYONE AND THEIR CHILDREN'.......
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:01 AM

B ). For some reliable resources to look up re this "Health and Disability Panel ", and where it has been referred to in publications, the following will be of interest and use:



1). "NZ Disability Support Network Conference ", speech by Paula Bennett, Minister for Social Development, 08 March 2012:

http://www.beehive.g...work-conference



Extract:

" Health and Disability Panel



We are working with people who have skills and experience in the health and disability sector on a Health and Disability Panel. It 's vital that we thoroughly understand all of the barriers people face, along with their capabilities and interests. We need to understand more about what work people can do, so that we can connect them to employment opportunities and support. It 's vital that we get the right support and services to help disabled people or those with health issues back into work. Our Health and Disability Panel is helping the Ministry of Social Development with this."



2). "Speech to Medical Professionals ", Paula Bennett, 26 Sept. 2012:

http://www.beehive.g...l-professionals



Extract:

" Across the board we will be asking more people on benefit about their work expectations, and what they might need to get into work. The focus for people with disabilities and long lasting conditions will be on their barriers to work not just their health, and we' ll be hands on, early on. This was an important point made by the experts on the Health and Disability panel which I established to review our proposed welfare changes.



It also echoes the UK 's assessment processes and the "Pathways to Work " initiative for vocational rehabilitation designed by Professor Sir Mansel Aylward. When I sat down with Sir Mansel earlier this year he told me that health conditions account for just 10 to 15 per cent of barriers to work for people on disability benefits. He said that many health conditions or disabilities can be well managed in work but addressing other barriers are just as important.



So, under the new system we will look at all of the barriers to people finding or keeping work. Detailed medical evidence will also be gathered. "



3). "Welfare Reform fact sheet information ", 2011:

http://www.msd.govt....nformation.html



Extract:

" How will people be assessed if they are sick or disabled?



There will be a stronger focus on what people can do, not what they can 't do. Health professionals will provide information to allow Work and Income to determine what kind of work a person can do and how long they should be exempt from work expectations. Those who are permanently or severely disabled, severely mentally ill or terminally ill, will be fast tracked into Supported Living Payment.



An expert Health and Disability Panel has been established to provide specialist advice to MSD on developing new assessment processes."



4). "Major welfare reform resets expectations "; media-release, Paula Bennett, 01 November 2011:

http://www.beehive.g...ts-expectations

http://www.beehive.g...and_Q&A.pdf



" In addition, we are going to introduce much more comprehensive work capacity assessments to get a better picture of what people can do and to determine what the right obligation is for each person. An expert Health and Disability Panel will give specialist advice on new assessment processes."



5). "Four GPs advise on new benefit ", Helen Tatham, NZ Doctor, 29 Feb. 2012:

http://www.nzdoctor....ew-benefit.aspx

(Try to do online search per Google or else, if link does not lead to story!)



Extract from article:

"Four GPs are included in a 14-member panel discussing new assessment processes for jobseeker support, formerly known as the sickness benefit. The names of the four - Tane Taylor, Bryn Jones, Ben Gray and Sandra Hicks - were made public by social development and employment minister Paula Bennett after a New Zealand Doctor Official Information Act request.



"The panel is currently contributing to the design of new assessment triage and streaming processes and discussing the skill set required to administer the assessment process, including the responsibilities of individuals who are not general practitioners," Ms Bennett says in a letter to the newspaper.



New Zealand Doctor tried to get the names of panel members last year when the welfare reforms were announced, but was told they could not be revealed. An Official Information Act request was sent to the minister's office in January and the response was received earlier this month.



Other members of the panel are: Fit For Work medical director David Beaumont; psychiatrist and former Ministry of Health director of mental health David Chaplow; disability advocate and accessible communications specialist Robyn Hunt; employment and mental health expert Helen Lockett; Auckland University of Technology rehabilitation professor Kathryn McPherson; Allied Health executive director Janice Mueller; Capital & Coast DHB chief medical officer Geoff Robinson; What Ever It Takes disability support director Charmeyne Te Nana-Williams; Wellington Pasefika Disability Network chair Pati Umaga; and Hamilton-based Career Moves Trust chief executive Roy Wilson.



Panel members have responsibilities aside from those listed above and several have been GPs, Ms Bennett says. "





C). Other important information to consider in this context:



1). "Welfare Working Group " Cabinet Paper, Office of the Minister for Social Development and Employment (classed "Budget: Sensitive "!), 11 and 17 March 2010:

http://igps.victoria...net%20paper.pdf

As main "topics " that paper already listed for the Group to be considered:

* "how we can reduce benefit dependence and get better work outcomes, including for sole parents;

* how to promote opportunities and independence from benefit for disabled people and people with ill health ..."



2). "Reducing Long-Term BenefitDependency " Welfare Working Group Recommendations, February 2011:

http://igps.victoria...roup/Index.html

http://igps.victoria...bruary-2011.pdf



See: '2.4 Replacing the existing benefit system with a new approach called work-focused welfare ' (pages 55-56) -

" However, there are some fundamental changes that are necessary to modernise the New Zealand benefit system and reduce the extent of long-term benefit receipt. Much can be learnt from insurance approaches which provide strong incentives for long-term welfare use to be minimised through a greater focus on employment. In what follows we set out our proposal to replace the existing outdated and passive set of benefits with a more unified approach we have called 'work-focused welfare ' "



" In return, it is important that individuals take personal responsibility for getting on with their lives. Where it is reasonable, individuals should be expected to actively look for work, and take steps to address their personal barriers to employment. There should also be clear and well managed consequences for those who do not meet these expectations."



" Clear targets

The number of people on welfare needs to be significantly reduced over the next decade. Absolute targets are important to direct attention to the scale of the problem and to ensure a greater focus across Government and the community on outcomes."



" A long-term view

A fundamental component of any sustainable welfare system must be to focus the system on reducing the number of people who spend long periods on welfare. Our proposal recognises the value of investing now to reduce the long-term social, economic and fiscal costs of welfare receipt.

Insurance models offer clear examples of how this is done. Public and private insurance organisations focus on reducing the future expected costs of people currently receiving insurance assistance."



See also in 'Chapter 6. Support for sick people and disabled people with long-term needs '

" There is strong evidence that paid work is associated with better physical and psychological health and that the longer people are out of paid work the harder it is for them to return to paid work. Dame Carol Black 's review highlights that there is compelling evidence that work has an inherently beneficial impact on an individual 's state of health." (page114)



3). Alternative Welfare Working Group publications

http://www.caritas.o...up-publications



4). 'Welfare Justice ', "The Alternative Welfare Working Group "; Reflections and recommendations: 'A contribution to the welfare reform debate ', December 2010:

http://www.caritas.o...20for%20All.pdf



From the Foreword (page 7):

"The first Welfare Justice report, titled "Welfare Justice in New Zealand: What We Heard "

was presented by Church leaders at a meeting with the Prime Minister and Deputy

Prime Minister. The Prime Minister received it and responded with a three-word

question, "Is welfare sustainable? " and a one-word reply, "No! " This clearly indicated

that our welfare justice approach has no support from Government. "



"Chapter 1: Introduction

* Welfare Justice: the Alternative Welfare Working Group was established

out of a common concern in the community sector that Welfare Working

Group (WWG) was limited by narrow terms of reference, a punitive approach to

welfare, exclusion of significant matters such as benefit adequacy, and a nonconsultative

style. " (page 8)



"Chapter 8: Disability

* A discussion that focuses on ways to reduce numbers on Invalids and Sickness

Benefits needs to engage with the expertise of those who experience the

situation.

* A "social model " of disability understands that problems lie often not with

the "deficits " of individuals, but with the way many parts of everyday life are

structured to exclude people with disabilities.

* Disabled people face workplace discrimination, and are rarely in full-time,

adequately remunerated or secure employment.

* Extending work testing to Sickness and Invalids beneficiaries as an "incentive "

to find work is a misapplication of their desire for workforce participation, as it

does not address issues such as the economy and employer attitudes.

.. Instead of a human rights approach, there has been a focus on how a benefit

recipient might be detached from benefit support as quickly as possible. " (page 11)



CHAPTER 1 INTRODUCTION

1.2 A number of us attending the Forum met informally on various occasions

during the Forum with four major concerns. First, the WWG was given very

narrow terms of reference which in our view were not going to allow for the

wide review about the nature and direction of welfare that was required.



"Second, and, more importantly, those terms of

reference were based on a narrow and punitive approach to welfare and

social security provision which would not advance and improve welf are

provision and delivery. This was identified as a particular concern, especially

in the light of Government announcements and the experiences of the

effects of benefit reforms in the 1990s. " (page 14)



5). "Welfare Justice in New Zealand: What We Heard " - Summary of submissions to 'Welfare Justice ', the "Alternative Welfare Working Group P, Nov. 2010:

http://www.caritas.o...0We%20Heard.pdf



" A key message expressed in the meetings and submissions is that people receiving social security support are greatly affected by policy debates such as the current welfare review. Television, radio, magazines and newspapers present material from politicians, academics, policy advisors and social commentators that make all sorts of claims about the circumstances and choices of people receiving benefits, with almost no room for comments by beneficiaries themselves."



"This public rhetoric accumulates to convey an impression that people receiving benefits are "lazy " or "fraudulent ", and fails to recognise the huge efforts some people are making to look after their family in difficult circumstances, to persevere on a path of recovery after serious illness or abuse, or to develop a creative life of well-being in a constant battle with social disabilities. We were told that stigma produced in such an environment increases anxiety and feelings of vulnerability. This experience for some people worsens their experience of ill-health. Associated with this, people spoke of their experience of powerlessness in the face of decisions being made on their behalf against a background of constantly changing policy. " (page 5)



6). 'Human Rights Issues in the Recommendations of the Welfare Working Group ', NZ Human Rights Commission; August 2011:

http://www.hrc.co.nz...ugust_2011.html



7). Key concerns about the Welfare Working Group 's recommendations, NZ Drug Foundation, policy briefing, July 2011:

http://drugfoundatio...ly%202011_0.pdf

"Currently, there is a huge gap between the level of existing drug and alcohol services and the level of need. "



8). 'Lifewise ', John McCarthy, media release statement on WWG report, 22 Feb. 2011

http://www.lifewise....dia-release.pdf



"In addition, the Group assumes that it is poor aspirations or low expectations that are the main reason keeping those who are sick or living with a disability on a benefit or unable to undertake paid employment. This is simplistic and patronising and simply serves to place even more distress on an already extremely vulnerable group. "



9). "U.K. 's Dame Carol Black among World-Class Judges for First Global Healthy Workplace Awards "; 'Cigna ', news releases, 20 Feb. 2013:

http://newsroom.cign...lace-Awards.htm



"LONDON & PHILADELPHIA, February 20, 2013 - Dame Carol Black, UK National Director for Health and Work and chairman of the Nuffield Trust, is among renowned health experts from five continents who will serve as judges for the first Global Healthy Workplace Awards and Summit. Amid an aging global workforce and the increasing costs and productivity declines that stem from poor health. .. "



"I much look forward to the Global Healthy Workplace Awards Summit. It is an important event - a major opportunity for business leaders across the world to share their understanding and experience of the workplace cultures and practices necessary to safeguard the health and wellbeing of their employees," Dame Black said.



10). 'Disability and Sickness Claims Denial in the Workplace: Dame Carol Black strikes again ', Black Triangle Campaign, 02 April 2012:

http://blacktriangle...-strikes-again/



"In December 2007, Occupational Health magazine described Dame Carol Black 's groundbreaking Working for a Healthier Tomorrow review of workplace health as a "once-in-a-generation opportunity " and an "early Christmas present for OH practitioners everywhere ".



This time, in conjunction with former director general of the British Chambers of Commerce, David Frost, her latest report, Health at work – an independent review of sickness absence, has emerged once again in the run-up to Christmas and, again, it appears as a case of Black bearing gifts, at least potentially, for the profession. "



11). Freedom of Information shows no evidence for thousands of 'never-worked' families, 05.07.2012:

http://fullfact.org/..._families-27515



"Earlier this year the Guardian ran an editorial attempting to debunk a 'convenient untruth' - the belief that there are potentially thousands of 'never-worked' families living on what have been termed the 'Shameless estates' of Britain.



The claim dates back to at least 2008, when former National Director of Health and Work, Dame Carol Black, while investigating the UK's incapacity benefits system claimed that there were households in which three generations of men had never worked. This prompted the Mail to claim:



" Thousands of children are growing up in families where their parents and grandparents have never worked. " "



"Full Fact was intrigued by this repeated claim, so we sent our own Freedom of Information request to the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) and the Department of Health (DH), asking simply whether they had any evidence to back up these figures.



The DH had no relevant information, and the response we received from the DWP was less than encouraging: "Information on the number of children growing up in families where their parents and grandparents have never worked is not available, as there is no suitable data source which would allow us to produce a robust and representative estimate of this persistent multigenerational worklessness." "



(see also: http://www.theguardi...truth-editorial)



12). "Private firms' role in creation of disability assessment regime ", The Guardian, 12 Sept. 2012:

http://www.theguardi...sessment-regime



"This week the sixth International Forum on Disability Management, IFDM 2012, takes place at Imperial College London. It is sponsored by some of the world's largest medical insurance companies, Unum among them, and speakers include DWP chief medical adviser Dr Bill Gunyeon and Professor Sir Mansel Aylward, formerly DWP chief medical adviser and director of the Centre for Psychosocial and Disability Research at Cardiff University, which was sponsored by Unum from its inception in 2003 until 2009. "



"Unum's website states that during this sponsorship period "a series of papers was published, identifying the range of factors that determine why some people become long-term absentees". The Cardiff papers advocated a "biopsychosocial model" of disability which Unum says "informed its approach to medical underwriting". It is the same approach upon which the current Atos work capability assessment (WCA) is based. Concomitantly, the company were advising the UK government on welfare reform. "



13). Also perhaps of some interest in this context, but less directly relevant to this topic:

"The Pursuit of Happiness and Wellbeing: A Forlorn Hope? " - Professor Sir Mansel Aylward, fr. 'Health Services Research Association Australia New Zealand ', re an event at Victoria University, Wellington, held on 18 April 2012:

http://www.hsraanz.o...el_Aylward.aspx



Slides presentation (Mansel Aylward 's with information on his bizarre "Happiness Studies "):

http://www.victoria....n%20Slides.pptx
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:10 AM

<P>I don't know what happened with my posting?? it started posting itself before I had even finished it. The below is final draft of it, sorry it's bungled though.. couldn't help it.</P>
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:10 AM

Recently this week, a young girl just left hospital after reasonably serious intestonal surgery. In her pyjama's walks for the first time in her life into the WINZ office. She has lost her job due to sickness and needing hospitalisation and surgery. She doesn't even know if she has a home to go back to. She has no family where she lives. Is in shock and rather traumatised by what she fears about her future position. She's also embarrassed and her pride has held her back from telling to many folk of her predicament. She's never had anything to do with WINZ, she's always worked and held her job for a good while. Well till her illness took precident and stuffed things up for her.<BR><BR>Well as I said, she walked into WINZ and got no-where! She turns from the counter in tears and in her painful state trys to walk to the door. She is noticed by a member of the public in a que. This person sensed something was really wrong with the young lass of 21yrs. The young girl was traumatised, in alot of pain and didn't know what to do. All she had was the PJ's she stood up in and a bag of medication. The young girl had been turned down for immediate assistance. You know the procedures of 'phoning for an appointment only' and waiting approx 2 - 3 weeks for your appointment.... yeah... Anyway...<BR><BR>The woman who took the initiative to step up and ask the young lass what was wrong, was absolutely aghast that 'nothing at all' had been done to assist the girl. So up to the counter the woman went and she made a bit of an issue of it.. not a bad scene but she got the attention of a WINZ worker or two who finally listened. <BR><BR>I think you'd be as gob smacked as I, and as the woman was when a WINZ WORKER walked round the counter and helped the young lady (taking her by her arm) assisted her out the door, across the road and gave her BUS FARE for a ticket home.<BR><BR><BR>WHY NOT A TAXI... this woman was vulnerable. She would of been a very easy target for thugs/druggies to knock off her medication. She had no money NOTHING, no food NOTHING..... What is wrong with our system. Surely a WINZ ADVOCATE could of stepped up and taken the young lass aside and spoken to her, assured her she wouldn't be left vulnerable without assistance. Especially as she had no family to call on. <BR><BR>Strewth...<BR><BR>
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:24 AM

D). Some revealing details about the individual Health and Disability Panel members:



1). Dr David Beaumont: Medical Director / CEO at 'Fit for Work Ltd ', 'Pathways to Work Ltd ' and 'OHS New Zealand Ltd ', also formerly at ATOS ORIGIN HEALTHCARE in the UK (the controversial assessor for the DWP there)



Dr David Beaumont on LinkedIn:

http://nz.linkedin.c...mont/2a/780/943



Past:

Regional Consultant Occupational Physician at Atos Origin Healthcare



Links to websites disclosing Dr Beaumont 's businesses and other involvements:

http://www.fitforwork.co.nz/team

http://www.gpcme.co...._2011_south.php



http://www.pathwayst...roblems-for-gps



Extract:

"Workers who take sick leave during a period of illness or injury normally see their GP to provide medical certification explaining their absence from work and assuring sick leave. This can create a situation where doctors feel pressured to extend work absences because they feel that this is best for the patient. There can be a negative impact on the relationship between doctor and patient where a patient perceives that the GP is not being supportive by advocating for continuing sick leave.



Dr Beaumont referred to the research indicating that doctors do not see themselves in the role of advocating for a prompt return to work, despite the consistent evidence that helping people back to work is most beneficial for their health in the long term.



Relating this issue to the New Zealand context, Dr Beaumont illustrated the recent health reforms in the United Kingdom:



.... doctors there now issue a fit note, detailing the capacities that allow a patient to return to work, while the current New Zealand model certifies ongoing disability - effectively saying that the patient is unfit for any level of work. "



Re Dr Beaumont 's "career " and his former employer ATOS Healthcare:



"New Zealand: 'British-style work tests concern ' - tests were developed partially work of disability expert Professor Sir Mansel Aylward, 12 Jan. 2013 ":

http://atosvictimsgr...ag/new-zealand/



Work capability assessments decision follows years of criticism, The Guardian, 22 July 2013: http://www.theguardi...ments-criticism



"Disabled benefits claimants test: Atos reports found 'unacceptably poor' ", The Guardian, 22 July 2013:

http://www.theguardi...mants-test-atos





Comments:

Dr David Beaumont will certainly have played a senior role on the Health and Disability Panel, given his background and "expertise " from the UK. As he himself runs his 'Pathways to Work ' business, focusing on "integrated rehabilitation " of sick and disabled back into the workforce, he does naturally have a vested interest in the outsourcing and privatisation of welfare related services!



He has already been advising ACC and the Ministry of Social Development in other capacities, and he does naturally emphasize the same philosophy about health, disability and the benefits of paid work, as Professor Mansel Aylward does. Being well known to leading MSD staff members and Paula Bennett, he will have been appointed to the Panel with knowledge of all those aspects on mind.



2). Dr David Chaplow- Forensic Psychiatrist and former Director for Mental Health at the Ministry of Health



Dr Chaplow on LinkedIn:

http://nz.linkedin.c...plow/35/115/126



"Psychiatrist defends use of electric shock therapy ", Rotorua Daily Post, 18 Aug. 2006

http://www.nzherald....jectid=10943550

"Shock treatment use has plummeted nationally but that's no reason to believe it's a "fringe" method, a leading psychiatrist says.



Ministry of Health director of mental health Dr David Chaplow said there had been decline in use of electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) nationally but that did not make the increasing use among Rotorua and Taupo people wrong.



He said the ministry looked at the use of ECT about two years ago and found it was a valuable treatment ".



"ECT involves passing an electric current through the brain to induce a seizure, altering brain chemistry to regulate a patient's mood.



Advocates for the procedure say it is one of the most effective ways to treat depressed patients who don't respond to other forms of treatment. "



"Involvement of Dr David Chaplow in Board hearings ", Scoop, 21 July 2004

http://www.scoop.co....rd-hearings.htm

"The New Zealand Parole Board has received the Solicitor-General 's opinion on the involvement of Dr David Chaplow in Board hearings.



Dr Chaplow participated in Board hearings of difficult cases and gave his expert advice as a leading forensic psychiatrist.



The Solicitor-General 's opinion is that the participation of Dr Chaplow in the decision-making process of the Board was not authorised by the Parole Act 2002 and that offenders should be offered a rehearing if they felt aggrieved by Dr Chaplow' s participation. "



"Secret Probe of Hutt Mental Health Services "; Kiwikileaks, 01 Sept. 2011

http://transparencyn...tal-health.html

"Leaked documents show the Health Ministry's mental health director, David Chaplow, ordered the investigation in June, but both the ministry and Hutt Valley District Health Board have kept it under wraps since.

In a letter to then-Hutt Valley chief executive Michael Hundleby, Dr Chaplow said he was ordering the inquiry under section 95 of the Mental Health Act after being made aware of problems with the service.

"There are two main areas of concern – the leadership of the mental health services, and a number of clinical issues presenting as `complaints' involving individual patients, which may, in turn, be related to the leadership issue or to wider systemic issues. " "



"From the CEO ",

http://intl-apy.sage...6/3/225.extract



" ... The meeting promoted networking of mental-health related NGOs and other partners by sharing information and discussing the potential to align work programs with the aim of improving mental health services by maximising use of NGO services and resources in harmony with international best practices and WHO recommendations. "



'Office of the Director of Mental Health ' Annual Report 2010,

http://www.nzdoctor....h-ar10-4oct.pdf



"Combat depression and its consequences ": 04 April 2011:

http://www.baptist.o...nion&Itemid=246



"David Chaplow, head of Mental Health New Zealand, worships with Wellington Central Baptist. He has confidence in the transformative power of the gospel. David identifies four things as basic human needs, and where personal faith and participation in the life of the church meet all of those needs.



- Rodney Macann, National Leader "



Comments:

Dr David Chaplow will have been appointed to the Panel given his expertise in forensic psychiatry, to advise on mental illness and possibly how he has been making efforts to rehabilitate some of those suffering from it into the community, in some cases with prospect to take up work activities. As former Director of Mental Health he should be well informed about the many issues and failing in the mental health system, and one wonders, how he could agree on the recommendations to Minister Paula Bennett and Cabinet, to push ahead with the proposed welfare reforms, to also push mental health sufferers into paid, open employment.



He appears to be adhering to the Baptist faith, believing in "the gospel ", so he is likely to have brought in his personal views based on principles of his faith. But at the same time he did at least in 2006 also defend "electric shock treatment " on mental health patients, which indicates that he believes in outdated treatment methods. One may dare to ask, whether he would perhaps recommend electric shock treatment to be applied on some "depressed " beneficiaries, to " treat" and heal them?



While I do not expect the latter, I have the impression that Dr Chaplow adheres to rather conservative values and views, which are likely to include a strong work ethic, which will have fitted in well with the agenda to be followed.



3). Dr Ben Gray - Senior Lecturer, Primary Health Care and General Practice, University of Otago, Wellington



"Ben Gray joined the Department in 2006 as a senior lecturer in General Practice. He is an Otago graduate from the first class at the Wellington Clinical School. He has worked as a GP for the past 25 years first in Waitara Taranaki and most recently at Newtown Union Health Service (NUHS). "



http://nz.linkedin.c...ub/dir/Ben/Gray



"Doctors told to prescribe work ethic ", Stuff.Co, 14 Aug. 2013:

http://www.stuff.co....ribe-work-ethic



"But health and disability panel member Ben Gray, a GP and senior lecturer at Otago University's Wellington School of Medicine, said there was no doubt that the physical and mental health benefits of working were huge.



"On one level, finding them a job is not our job. But our ability to manage some of the problems that are the barriers to why they can't get jobs are our core business.



"If someone can't get a job because they are stoned all the time, then I should be talking to them about what we can do about their addiction. "



International research has shown consequences from being out of work include poorer mental and physical health, increased rates of mortality, and risk of cardiovascular disease, lung cancer and respiratory infections.



It was hoped that more government funding would accompany the shift towards working more closely with the ministry, Dr Gray said. "



"Welfare now has health warning ", NZ Herald, 16 July 2013:

http://www.nzherald....jectid=10898616



"A former doctor at Wellington's Newtown Union Health Service who represented general practitioners on an advisory panel that drew up the new policy, Dr Ben Gray, said he was "pleasantly surprised" and he was happy to sign up to the emphasis on "work is good for health".



" "That is very solid science," he said. "So the main point of the new form is to get away from being a sickness benefit form. It's to be a descriptor of what the barriers to work are.""



"More eyes on patient notes ", NZ Doctor, 09 March 2011:

http://www.nzdoctor....ient-notes.aspx

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"Third parties should have access to patient notes to monitor how GPs fill out "fit notes" for beneficiaries, says a Government working group. Confidentiality requirements would have to be met before allowing "work ability specialists" to audit patient notes and "fit notes", says the Welfare Working Group. It suggests fit notes replace the present medical certificates. "



"NZMA chair and Napier GP Peter Foley holds grave concerns about a third party accessing medical records for the purpose of audit. Patient notes contain information that may have nothing to do with the illness preventing that patient from getting work, Dr Foley says. "



" Dr Foley supports the philosophical change behind scrapping all the benefit categories in favour of a single jobseeker payment, but says there will still be a category of people for whom work will never be an option.



Wellington GP and researcher Ben Gray agrees, and points out other groups, such as those being released from prison into the community, have the will to work but employers won't touch them.



Dr Gray has long suggested the benefit categories be changed and is pleased to see this recommendation from the working group. "The current system is completely stupid. The categories are arbitrary," he says. "



"Doctor laments Newtown health cuts ", The Wellingtonian, Stuff.co, 27 Sept. 2012:

http://www.stuff.co....own-health-cuts

"Some of Wellington's poorest and neediest people have been hit hardest by health board cuts to general practices, according to one doctor. A Capital and Coast District Health Board report obtained by The Wellingtonian under the Official Information Act shows the board made cuts of $5.6 million to its primary health funding in the past two years.



That included a $300,000 cut to Newtown Union Health Service last year and another $274,000 this year, 8 per cent of the service's revenue. Newtown Union doctor Ben Gray delivered a letter to the board on June 8 saying that the cut was out of proportion with the $40 million the board needed to save. "



" Ms Hannah responded that Newtown Union was one of 13 practices open during evenings or weekends, but was the only one Capital and Coast District Health Board funded to do so, at $56,730 a year."



"Ms Hannah said Newtown Union received funding disproportionate to other practices funded by Capital and Coast District Health Board. "



" $300k woes haunt Newtown Union ", NZ Doctor, 30 Nov. 2011:

http://www.nzdoctor....town-union.aspx

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"It was because Newtown Union Health Service had reserves that the DHB asked it to manage on $300,000 less in the current financial year, says a GP at the practice, Ben Gray. Dr Gray says, without some political direction, the DHB will be under deficit pressure again next year and taking more savings out of primary care.



Asked for an interview, Capital & Coast DHB emailed a statement from Sandra Williams, director, planning and funding. It said: "Like all DHBs Capital & Coast is looking at its funding priorities and, where providers it contracts to deliver services have a surplus, we are working with them to see how best their surplus can be utilised." "



Comments:

Dr Gray has repeatedly been quoted in the media as a clear supporter of welfare reforms of the kind now implemented. He appears to also support the Mansel Aylward taught philosophy about the "health benefits of work ", also to be applied on sick and disabled with incapacities. He is clearly a strong believer in the welfare reforms that the government pushed through Parliament as a NZ Doctor article quoting him from 09 March 2011 reveals.



No surprise then, that he was selected to be on the 'Health and Disability Panel ' appointed by Paula Bennett! His earlier media and other comments appear to have been taken note of.



As his practice has since last year experienced funding cuts by the local DHB, one may ask, whether he is still so solidly supportive of the government 's health and welfare policies. His recent comments in a New Zealand Herald article on 16 July 2013, and in a Dominion Post one on 14 August, do though give the impression, that he may be hopeful for more government spending, by getting involved in "assisting " beneficiaries back into work. Dr Gray (as a GP) seems aware of the hand that feeds him, so his loyalty will remain intact.
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:26 AM

4). Dr Sandra Hicks - GP (MB.ChB., Dip. Obst.) and NZMA board member



Details about Sandra Hicks on LinkedIn - and the NZMA website:

http://nz.linkedin.c...icks/1b/974/29a

http://www.nzma.org.nz/node/30



'Membership of the National Information Clinical Leadership Group ', IT Health Board

http://ithealthboard...roup/membership

"The National Information Clinical Leadership Group is planned to be a long-term group, thus ensuring a consistent approach for the health sector. "



Sandra Hicks ' profile on the website of her practice in Christchurch:

http://www.halswellhealth.co.nz/staff/



"Sandra Hicks has worked in the community in General Practice for 20 years and before that in Family Planning. She is interested in and enjoys all facets of General Practice. Sandra has a special interest in women and children's health. She also does minor surgery such as removing suspicious moles or early skin cancers and is experienced in the insertion of IUD's (intra-uterine contraceptive devices). She is interested in the management of General Practices and the way the computer system functions. Sandra has been involved in the local and national administration of general practice through the College of GP's, the IPA Council and the board of Pegasus and has been on a number of committees which have strengthened the relationship between the hospital and general practice. For the last three years Sandra has been on the Board of the New Zealand Medical Association. She enjoys the longterm relationship with families and individuals that is possible in general practice. "





Pegasus Health Maori Health Workforce Scholarships, Scoop - Health, 05 Aug. 2004:

http://www.scoop.co....cholarships.htm



"Improving Maori health by supporting the development of the Maori health workforce is a top priority for Pegasus Health " "says Pegasus Health Chair, Dr Sandra Hicks. "



Pegasus Health (Charitable) Ltd, Canterbury, website:

http://www.pegasus.health.nz/



"Pegasus Health was founded in 1992 when a group of Christchurch general practitioners met to see how they could use the "health reforms " of the time to get a better deal for the local community. The early Pegasus pioneers brought together the majority of Christchurch GPs to form an Independent Practitioner Association (IPA) with a strong clinical education foundation and a focus on reducing wastage on unnecessary laboratory tests and prescriptions. "



"In March 2013 Pegasus Health will amalgamate with Partnership Health Canterbury PHO to deliver PHO services across Canterbury, Selwyn and Waimakariri districts. "



Comments:

Dr Sandra Hicks appears to have been chosen to sit on the "Health and Disability Panel " to firstly represent the New Zealand Medical Association (NZMA). She also has expertise in health information technology systems. Her involvement with the 'Health Information Governance Expert Advisory Group " (HIGEAG) will have been considered useful, as the government intends to increase information sharing on sick and disabled beneficiaries, between health service providers and possibly Work and Income as part of MSD.



As she was also board member at 'Pegasus Health ', who apparently adapted and worked well under former health reforms by an earlier National led government (from 1992 on), she will have been viewed as a person in favour of further reforms of the types suggested.



As a GP she will naturally support efforts to improve systems and treatment availability, in order to assist those sick and disabled that may be able to return to some forms of work. Whether she may have fully supported the reforms as suggested, or only in part, that is not sufficiently clear. There is always the chance that well-meaning doctors are taken advantage of and then get tied into agendas that have already been decided on.



5). Robyn Hunt - Company Director, 'AccEase Limited ' and Disability Advocate



Robyn Hunt on LinkedIn:

http://nz.linkedin.c.../dir/Robyn/Hunt



"Current:

Co-manager at Disability Clothesline, Owner at AccEase Limited

Past:

Board member at New Zealand Guidelines Group, Commissioner at New Zealand Human Rights Commission, Member at Virtual Group "



Robyn Hunt:

http://disabilityclothesline.org.nz/

"The disability clothesline project is a way of breaking the silence about violence and abuse, enabling victims to give creative expression to their experiences as they use clothing as a canvas. The disability clothesline project will gather our stories and experience; it will bring the invisible into the light."



"Who we are

The Disability Clothesline is a grassroots disability project run in co-operation with DCAV, the Disability Coalition against Violence. We do not provide disability, family violence or any other services.



The coalition began with DPA and the National Network of Stopping Violence Services, representing disabled people and organisations working to prevent violence. Since then other organisations have joined the informal coalition from both sectors. The project received seed funding by a grant from the Community Assistance Fund. "



"Get involved

We launched this project on November 25, 2009 and we have collected lots of tee shirts, but we are still looking for more. "



"Judges decision leaves disabled with a disturbing message ", 'NZ Catholic ', Oct. 2012:

http://www.nzcatholi...urbing-message/



"Disability Clothesline co-manager Robyn Hunt said disabled people are not burdens, and, with support, can live meaningful and rewarding lives, even with significant impairments. " Negative social values towards disabled people contribute to decisions like Rosie' s. Disabled people don 't need to die that way ", Ms Hunt said.

"Disability Clothesline Project aims to break the silence about all forms of violence and abuse experienced by disabled people, enabling victims to give creative expression to their experiences, as they use clothing as a canvas. Some of their tee shirts are for the disabled people who have been coerced into suicide, because they believed that their lives were not worthwhile ", Ms Hunt said. "And we are disturbed that Rosie Mott accepted that message ", she said. "



Robyn Hunt 's business:

http://www.accease.com/



"AccEase is the New Zealand communications company that makes sure your web site, information, communications and engagement are fully accessible.



We pioneered, more than ten years ago, our unique "real world" testing model. Since then our business has grown to include a wider range of services. "



AccEase, Principal Consultants:

http://www.accease.c...pal-consultants



"Robyn Hunt

As an award-winning journalist and communicator she brings extensive experience in those fields to the creation of readable, accessible web content, and accessible information beyond the web. Robyn is acknowledged as one of New Zealand 's leading experts in the field of disability. She has been honoured for her work in the disability community. "



"She is an innovator who has developed and launched a number of successful media and communications projects. Robyn has run her own consulting, writing and training business, working with the public, private and not-for-profit sectors. Before that she worked in policy and management roles as well as a writer and broadcaster.



Robyn has served eight years as a human rights commissioner with responsibility for disability at the New Zealand Human Rights Commission. "



"Qualifications



Robyn has a BA(Hons) and a diploma in public sector management. "



PowerPoint presentation - promoting her services:

http://www.google.co...kRbBGMmfejWeFpQ



http://www.google.co...pGLtremsJMncK6A



'Disability World ', Governance & Legislation; on Robyn Hunt, June – July 2000:

http://www.disabilit...NewZealand.html



"REFERENCE GROUP, NZ DISABILITY STRATEGY

Robyn Hunt, Wellington (co-chair): Robyn is the chair of Workbridge board of management and was a disability consultant to the Royal Commission on Social Policy. She has been actively involved with Disabled Persons Assembly (DPA) since it began, including terms as regional president and on the national executive. "



Robyn Hunt in 'Rise ' magazine, Ministry for Social Development, March 2009:

http://www.msd.govt....r-09-part-1.pdf



"That long hard journey started at birth - Robyn was born with cataracts and is vision impaired. In her case, this means she doesn 't drive, she has difficulty reading some material and she doesn' t play sports that require good vision. It also meant that at high school, despite knowing she wanted to be a journalist, she had to endure other people 's low expectations of what she was capable of ". "In addition to her public service work, she also owns a consultancy called AccEase, working with businesses to ensure that information - particularly on the internet - is accessible to all. "

"With just 18 months left in her term as Human Rights Commissioner, Robyn knows exactly what she wants to achieve by then. "I want to see the monitoring process on its way, and a robust and durable and credible process established for the convention. I want to see more disabled people getting involved in the disability community " including young people. "

(see page 10 to 12)



(One must really wonder why Robyn Hunt was chosen to sit on the Health and Disability Panel, but I suspect that perhaps Paula Bennett just spotted that article on her in 'Rise ' from the March 2009 edition, when inspecting the article right next to it, introducing her as the "new Minister for Social Development " on page 13 in that issue!? )





Comments:

Robyn Hunt is a person with accepted and respected expertise in the disability sector, has been active as a writer, commenter, consultant and innovator, she even served on the Human Rights Commission. She also appears to have an entrepreneurial side to her activities, offering consultancy, audit, assessment and testing services, and training. This covers web based and other communication and information systems for the disability sector.



The latter will make her appeal to the Minister and present government, as any business friendly advocate, who also operates her own business, fits in perfectly with the new policy approach of having MSD head towards outsourcing and contracting services in the community, to deliver what they view as necessary.



Robyn will also have been considered "useful " as a good "role model ", to show how initiative and business spirit can realise or deliver "opportunities " for disabled and sick with incapacities, especially those who depend on benefits.



She was well known to the Ministry, having been working with the Ministry of Social Development while “Chair” of the 'Workbridge Board of Management ' many years ago. She even featured in the MSD publication 'Rise ' in March 2009, which was also well before the Panel was chosen and appointed. One must bear in mind, that MSD was then still much in the shape as it was left in by the last Labour led government, and key decision-makers and management will still have followed the then accepted more moderate policies.



I do really wonder, whether it may have been Paula Bennett, who decided to appoint Robyn, as the introduction of her as the new Minister for Social Development appeared in that same publication, right after the article on Robyn. So there are photos and articles facing each other, with Robyn Hunt on page 12 and Paula Bennett on page 13. Sometimes decisions are made for coincidental reasons. In any case, my impression is that Robyn Hunt was "tied in " as a well intending member, to be taken on board for an agenda that she would not support in the form it has finally been put into law and practice.



I doubt very much that Robyn Hunt is fully informed on Mansel Aylward, his background and controversial interpretation of the "bio psycho-social model ", which caused much distress and harm by disabled there. But this now introduced here in New Zealand under this government.
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:28 AM

6). Dr Bryn Jones - GP and former board member at 'Health Hawke 's Bay '



Health Hawke 's Bay - Te Oranga Hawke 's Bay New Board of Directors Announced:

http://www.attn.co.nz/2011/07/25/health-hawke’s-bay-–-te-oranga-hawke’s-bay-new-board-of-directors-announced/

The new Health Hawke 's Bay - Te Oranga Hawke 's Bay Board members are; Helen Walker, John Newland, Aramanu Ropiha, Dr Andrew Heslop, Lorna Cowan, Danelle Dinsdale, Dr Bryn Jones, Bayden Barber, Adri Isbister.

http://www.healthhb....y-June-2013.pdf



National Advisory Council, RNZCGP, 'Te Akoranga a Maui Faculty '

http://www.rnzcgp.or...visory-council/



"College Maori leader in ministry post ", NZ Doctor, 12 June 2013:

http://www.nzdoctor....istry-post.aspx

(search by Google or else, if link does not work)



"RNZCGP Te Akoranga a Maui chair and National Advisory Council member Bryn Jones has taken a job two days a week at the Ministry of Health.



Dr Jones joined the ministry's sector capability and implementation team as a chief advisor on 20 May, and is continuing his work as a GP in the accident and medical facility at Hastings Health Centre. "



"Primary Thinking Bryn Jones ", NZ Doctor, 13 March 2013:

http://www.nzdoctor....bryn-jones.aspx

(try Google or other search if link does not work)



"Hastings GP Bryn Jones, of Ngati Kahungunu, talks to New Zealand Doctor reporter Virginia McMillan in the first in our Primary Thinking podcast series. Dr Jones chairs the RNZCGP Te Akoranga a Maui (Maori faculty) and is a director of Health Hawke's Bay - Te Oranga Hawke's Bay PHO. "



"In Primary Thinking, we ask GPs to identify what has changed for the better in primary care, and what changes must still be made. "



Dr Jones: "One of the other things is, it's clear to me there's a much greater awareness of social determinants of health, how they impact on our populations, and equity. "



Dr Jones: "It's difficult for me to comment on what would look different because I think the first step is to take a look at what will make a difference for patients. And I think far too often we don't do that, we take a look at what we think will make a difference for patients rather than what patients think will make a difference for patients. "



Comments:

There is not very much information to be found on Dr Bryn Jones, when looking on the internet, but he is at least knows as a Maori GP, has served as board member for 'Health Hawke 's Bay ' and has been interviewed by NZ Doctor.



He will have been asked to be on the "Health and Disability Panel " set up by MSD and Paula Bennett to "advise " on welfare reform, simply for having experience as a GP and hospital doctor in frontline primary care in a community with substantial social issues - with Maori healthcare and for being "competent " as a senior administrator for 'Health Hawke 's Bay '.



As he has in interviews by NZ Doctor and other publications raised concerns about funding aspects, he is likely to have been one of the less enthused supporters of the welfare reforms as they will be implemented. But I do also in this case suspect, that he was supportive of the welfare reforms, hoping for genuine improvements in health and rehabilitation services, that could perhaps bring some better results for some able to return to work, if proper funding would be made available. As a GP he has an interest in working with governments, due to much of their incomes depending on government policies and initiatives.





7). Helen Lockett - Strategic Policy Advisor at 'The Wise Group '

Helen Lockett on LinkedIn:

http://nz.linkedin.c...ckett/25/1b/86b



'grow ', "Real Value, Inclusive life choices conference ", Wellington, 6 + 7 May 2013, announcement:

http://grow.co.nz/re...-helen-lockett/



'The Wise Group ', 'The Wise Family '

http://www.wisegroup...the-wise-family

"Workwise



Workwise is an employment agency that provides evidence-based support to help people with experience of mental illness find paid employment. The organisation is accessible to people who have a predominant mental illness and who are already accessing income support and health services. Its service is aligned with mainstream employment agencies, reinforcing its practice of helping people gain real jobs and valuing every individual 's career potential. "



'Workwise Employment Limited ', Hamilton, Companies Office NZ registration details:

http://www.business....%26q%3Dworkwise





"Analysis shows strong financial returns from employment ", H. Lockett, 27.02.2012

http://www.workwise....from-employment



"A return on investment analysis has demonstrated that an evidence-based supported employment approach (EBSE) to assist people with mental health conditions return to work has the potential to provide significant financial returns to government.



Workwise is taking a leading role within the implementation of EBSE within New Zealand and is supported by Blueprint (which offers a number of EBSE training programmes) Pathways, Wild Bamboo and Te Pou. "



"Helen Lockett, who is internationally acknowledged as an expert on EBSE, said one of the challenges faced is that the issue of supporting people with experience of mental illness into work does not fall squarely within "health " or "welfare " but has implications across the whole of government. "



"Employment and mental health ", Scoop, 16 May 2013:

http://www.scoop.co....ntal-health.htm



"Wise Group strategic policy advisor Helen Lockett said the long term aim of the Grid is to help foster a culture in health services where returning to or remaining in good employment is embedded and valued as an important part of treatment.



" There is rigorous evidence to show the benefits of returning to and staying in employment for people with mental health conditions as well as evidence on how to achieve this," said Ms Lockett. "



"Employment as a Health Intervention - The New Zealand context ":

http://www.platform....august-2012.pdf



"Inspire clinical leadership

* Find champions - psychiatry, GPs, OTs

* Professions talk to professions

* Presentations at Royal Colleges annual conferences

* A National Education Programme - professional

training and continued professional development "



"Influence policy

* Youth mental health programme

* Health Workforce New Zealand Review

* Blueprint II

* Service development plan

* Planners and funders

* Welfare reform "





"Method

1. Identified the programme delivery costs

2. Retrospective analysis of data on 1400 people who

had been referred to the Workwise IPS programme

over a 4 year period

* Welfare benefits taxes paid "



"Article: Helping employees who become severely depressed ", Issue 24, 2011

http://www.mentalhea...article/24/330/



"What about the distressed employee - are measures to keep them in or return them to work likely to be harmful to their health? Again there is good news - work is on the whole good for mental and physical health (Waddell and Burton 2006, AFOEM, 2010) and for many people being at work in a supportive workplace can be part of the solution rather than the problem. "



Comments:

As the Senior Policy Advisor for the Wise Group, a trust that also owns 'Workwise Employment Limited ' (besides of other incorporated agencies), Helen Lockett represents interests that would potentially benefit financially from the outsourcing and privatisation of welfare services. She has an MBA qualification, plus a degree in "social and political sciences ", including "social and cultural psychology ". In the UK she worked also as "Director of Programmes " at the 'Performance Centre for Mental Health '.



Hence her expertise lies in business, consultancy and policy development. Her presence on the Health and Disability Panel will have been to deliver "advice " on the potential "benefits " of outsourcing employment services to private, non-government organisations, one of which she herself is a member.



She absolutely propagates the ideas that "work is good " for the "health " of people with mental and physical impairments. She is also quite open about her intentions to influence policy (and with that politicians), to further the interests that she represents.



One would really think that there was a strong conflict of interest in having her sit on the Panel, but apparently the opposite was thought by Paula Bennett and her staff. There is no doubt at all that she would favour the welfare reforms by the government. She would most certainly have been one of the most outspoken, strong supporters of the reform agenda.



8). Professor Kathryn McPherson - AUT, Professor of Rehabilitation, member of the 'Work and Income Board ' (see towards end of analysis and summary of this report)



Kathryn McPherson 's profile on the AUT website:

http://www.aut.ac.nz...thryn-mcpherson



Welfare Working Group Members:

http://igps.victoria...up/Members.html



"Hon. Paula Bennett, the Minister for Social Development and Employment, announced the membership of the Welfare Working Group on 13 April 2010. "



"Professor McPherson is currently the Professor of Rehabilitation (Laura Fergusson Chair), Auckland University of Technology.



Professor McPherson holds a PhD from Edinburgh University. She has a clinical background in nursing, midwifery and psychology and is a Visiting Professor at the University of Southampton and at King's College London.



Professor McPherson's research focuses on: investigating outcomes in ways that matter most to people with chronic conditions (both conceptual and psychometric issues); improving effectiveness of rehabilitation processes aimed at enhancing participation in meaningful activities and improving quality of life; and rehabilitation workforce development. "



"Rebstock appointment to welfare reform board concerns ", Stuff.co, 16.05.2012:

http://www.stuff.co....-board-concerns



"The board will be chaired by former Welfare Working Group head Paula Rebstock, who is a former Commerce Commission chair.



It also includes the head of the private insurer Southern Cross Healthcare Group Ian McPherson, businessman Andrew Body, company directors Reg Barrett and Debbie Packer who both have private and public sector experience, and rehabilitation expert and Welfare Working Group member Professor Kathryn McPherson. "



Person Centred Research Centre, AUT University:

http://www.aut.ac.nz...earch-activites



" The Person Centred Research Centre is one of the research centres making up the Health & Rehabilitation Research Institute at AUT University. It is a multidisciplinary centre, lead by Prof. Kathryn McPherson, Professor of Rehabilitation (Laura Fergusson Chair) and Associate Director Associate Professor Paula Kersten. PCRC consists of research clusters each with it's own particular focus but all working towards the centre's primary aims."



"The Centre's research currently focuses on: enhancing understanding of disability, investigating outcomes in ways that matter most to people with chronic conditions; improving the effectiveness of rehabilitation processes such as goal setting and promoting engagement in rehabilitation. We are also exploring how best to facilitate activity for people with chronic conditions and promoting wellbeing for families, as well as the person with the injury or illness. "



Comments:

While Kathryn McPherson is one of the best qualified experts on the Panel, one must ask, what makes her "appeal " so much to Paula Rebstock and Minister Paula Bennett, to have her appointed to all the various groups that have been involved in advising and implementing the welfare reforms that were finally brought in under the 'Social Security (Benefit Categories and Work Focus) Amendment Act '.



Kathryn McPherson was appointed to the Welfare Working Group, then to the "Health and Disability Panel ", and she is now also on the 'Work and Income Board ', tasked with overseeing the implementation of the investment approach driven welfare reforms.



Her rehabilitation and leadership qualifications and expertise will be one major reason for having selected her to the various roles she has held, and is still holding. But a question may be justified whether she may also share the political and socio-economic drive behind it all. In any case, her work is centred on a strong focus of enhancing and improving effective rehabilitation, which in itself would be of utmost interest to the policy makers.



It is quite apparent that she would have supported the reforms from the start, but it is not quite clear whether she would share all aspects of them. Nevertheless, being rewarded with the various positions and paid for involvement, there is of course some evident self interest.
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9). Janice Mueller - Management Consultant and former Executive Director at 'Allied Health ', Auckland DHB



Janice Mueller on LinkedIn:

http://nz.linkedin.c...ller/21/876/183



"Current

Director at Waipiata Consulting Ltd

Member at The Physiotherapy Board of New Zealand



Past

Executive Director Allied Health, Scientific & Technical at Auckland District Health Board

Chair at New Zealand College of Physiotherapy

Physiotherapist, Allied Health Manager, Executive Officer, Project Director at Middlemore Hospital "



Waipiata Consulting -

'Specialist in New Zealand health strategy, leadership and professional governance ':

http://waipiata.com/

"Services "

"Waipiata Consulting offers a range of consulting and training services that make a real difference in leadership, health services planning and development, workforce development, service reviews and professional governance. "



"Janice is a registered physiotherapist with a clinical background in child health and over 28 years of experience in the physiotherapy profession, allied health and executive-level health sector leadership and management roles, with extensive relationships and networks nationally and internationally. She is able to lead major change management processes within organisations, and collaborate across professions and organisations to influence and achieve outcomes at local, regional and national levels. "



"Janice has extensive executive team and professional leadership and management skills and offers health, other government and NGO organisations a range of services, with a focus on the allied health & health science professions, and senior executives. "



"Hospital heads dismiss DHB merger fears ", Auckland NOW, Stuff.co, 12 Feb. 2012:

http://www.stuff.co....HB-merger-fears



"Meanwhile, Auckland DHB confirmed three managers had resigned for personal reasons.



The three departing senior staff - Smith, director of nursing Taima Campbell and director of allied health Janice Mueller - take with them 29 collective years of experience.



None of the positions has yet been filled.Smith will lead The Selwyn Foundation, Campbell will pursue study, while Mueller will spend more time with her family and look into business interests. "



Comments:

Janice Mueller represents yet another senior health service management expert - turned consultant, who is typical for the increasingly outsourced and privatised service providers that are being created. Now self employed - after her role as Executive Director at 'Allied Health ', she now seeks contracts for well paid consultancy services. She is pursuing her new business aspirations, which probably give her some desired flexibility to spend a bit more time with her family. She will also have a vested interest in the welfare reforms leading to more services being created and bought by the public health sector from various private enterprise providers.



It appears her involvement on the Health and Disability Panel may have been to offer advice on managing workforces and general service delivery. Like with the many other participants on the Panel, it must be questioned whether she understood the full implications of the drivers behind the reforms, and what Mansel Aylward and his "bio psycho-social model " stand for.



10). Geoff Robinson - MB ChB (Otago), Chief Medical Officer, Capital and Coast DHB



Geoff Robinson - on the Capital and Coast DHB website:

http://www.ccdhb.org.../who-we-are.htm



Wellington Hospitals and Health Foundation

http://whhf.org.nz/our-trustees/



"Dr. Geoffrey Robinson has been the chief medical officer at Capital & Coast District Health Board since 1 May 2005. Previously Dr. Robinson worked as a consultant physician in Kenepuru Hospital in general medicine and has been involved in the alcohol and drug service since 1980. He also held the position of clinical director of Kenepuru and Kapiti from July 2003 until appointed as chief medical officer. "



"Sunday Insight: Hospital malaise doing the rounds ", Herald on Sunday, 16 June 2013

http://www.nzherald....jectid=10890800



"Rosemary Wyber at Wellington Hospital, where she says much of her day as a junior doctor was a collection of laborious administrative tasks of unclear significance. "



"Capital & Coast District Health Board chief medical officer Dr Geoffrey Robinson says the Medical Council reviewed the quarterly rotation of resident doctors, and feedback indicated it should continue. "



"Because house officers are at an early stage of their career, they need to experience a number of different rotations to develop skills and to determine their future career choices."



Robinson says the DHB has made considerable efforts to listen to the concerns of resident medical officers (RMOs), including holding patient safety forums and meetings with hospital management. A staff and patient safety survey is scheduled for August which will measure how well managers and doctors engage with each other.



"Clinical administrative tasks, such as attending to charts and completing discharges, do not end when an RMO finishes their training. Senior medical staff and GPs perform many administrative duties," Robinson says.



"The board believes it goes to considerable lengths to ensure RMOs are made to feel welcome and that their opinions are valued during their time here."



- Herald on Sunday "



Comments:

Again, with Dr Geoff Robinson as a senior "expert " in the form of a Chief Medical Officer, from a leading DHB administered by the Ministry of Health, we have a person from top management with an academic qualification and according experience, who was asked to be member of the "Health and Disability Panel ".



He and the other senior health profession leadership “experts” on the Panel are again proof of more top to bottom approaches being applied in the whole pretended "consultation " process for the most radical welfare reforms since at least 1991. What the government and Minister Bennett may have found useful is his experience also in the alcohol and drug services.

Being a senior public health service "expert ", he will also have collaborated willingly in supporting the welfare reforms as proposed by the government.





11). Dr Tane Taylor



Dr Tane Taylor on LinkedIn:

http://nz.linkedin.c...aylor/0/b2a/a35



Dr Tane Taylor on the website of the Royal NZ College of General Practitioners:

http://rnzcgp.org.nz/dr-tane-taylor/



"Introducing Dr Tane Taylor



Dr Tane Taylor is a family doctor, GP teacher, primary care consultant - working as a general practitioner, mostly in South Auckland, Aotearoa New Zealand. His family origins are that he is Tainui, Te Arawa, Takitimu, English & Scottish descendent.



Recently retired from six years as chair of the Royal New Zealand College of General Practitioners ' (RNZCGP) Maori faculty: Te Akoranga a Maui, Dr Taylor is a Distinguished Fellow of the College and a former member of its Board of Education and Council. He is an honorary senior lecturer with the University of Auckland, examiner and assessor of the GP Fellowship Training programme and senior assessor for the RNZCGP 's Cornerstone Practice Accreditation Programme. He also holds a Diploma in Obstetrics (Auckland), and FACNEM.



Tane is a consultant to East Tamaki Healthcare Group (ETHC) and Advisor to the Centre for Advanced Medicine Ltd in Auckland. He was Chief Clinical Advisor at Raukura Hauora O Tainui, a Maori health provider, before his current appointment. "





"GPs asked to discuss employment goals with patients ", TVNZ, 14 Aug. 2013:

http://tvnz.co.nz/na...atients-5533607



"Some GPs on the front line though say the initiative could be a game changer, but it will need investment from the Government to work.



"This is more challenge for the health sector and the general practice teams because we need to change the ways we actually do our business with patients, " said Dr Tane Taylor an Otara GP.



However Ms Bennett said doctors do not need extra funding to have a conversation with patients. "





"Four GPs advise on new benefit ", NZ Doctor, 29 Feb. 2012

http://www.nzdoctor....ew-benefit.aspx

(try to do Google or other search if link does not work!)



"Four GPs are included in a 14-member panel discussing new assessment processes for jobseeker support, formerly known as the sickness benefit.



The names of the four - Tane Taylor, Bryn Jones, Ben Gray and Sandra Hicks - were made public by social development and employment minister Paula Bennett after a New Zealand Doctor Official Information Act request. "



"New Zealand Doctor tried to get the names of panel members last year when the welfare reforms were announced, but was told they could not be revealed. "



"Other members of the panel are: Fit For Work medical director David Beaumont; psychiatrist and former Ministry of Health director of mental health David Chaplow; disability advocate and accessible communications specialist Robyn Hunt; employment and mental health expert Helen Lockett; Auckland University of Technology rehabilitation professor Kathryn McPherson; Allied Health executive director Janice Mueller; Capital & Coast DHB chief medical officer Geoff Robinson; What Ever It Takes disability support director Charmeyne Te Nana-Williams; Wellington Pasefika Disability Network chair Pati Umaga; and Hamilton-based Career Moves Trust chief executive Roy Wilson.



Panel members have responsibilities aside from those listed above and several have been GPs, Ms Bennett says. "



'Wonca ', 'Global Family Doctor , Dr Tane Taylor, profile:

http://www.globalfam...aneArataki.aspx



"How he came to work in general practice



New Zealand-born, the young Tane lived in communist Albania from the age of seven until he was 27, and was to follow in his father 's footsteps to become a dentist. However, upon his father's advice not to do so, he trained as a doctor. At the time of specialising in surgery, Tane, his Albanian wife and four-year-old daughter, fled the country to make a new life in New Zealand.



In order to be able to practice in New Zealand, Tane had to pass New Zealand registration examinations. He took a while to get used to a new examination process before spending time in the public hospital system and then finally deciding on general practice. "



Comments:

Dr Tane Taylor is evidently a real "medical professional " with great "career ambitions ", who has held key positions and is still involved in a range of organisations (e.g. the RNZCGP) as assessor, advisor and practitioner. He is according to recent media reports on Television New Zealand (on 14 August 2013) a clear supporter of the welfare reforms by the government, but mentioned on a cautionary note, that additional funding for health services in primary care would be needed. I have the strong impression that he has favoured welfare reforms of the kind that the government introduced since before his involvement with the Health and Disability Panel that was established to “advise” on health aspects of the reforms.



Successful, career-minded and healthy people like Dr Tane Taylor also often have an inherent sense - or expectation - that others should also be able to make greater efforts and do well, without always being fully well aware of this inclination.



Tane Taylor is of Maori descent but spent his early years in communist Albania, where his father appears to have worked as a dentist. This is an unusual background for a New Zealand medical practitioner, but his life there - and since then - must have shaped his personal views and aspirations, also wanting better health care for Maori. He is likely to have fallen for the reform talk that Paula Bennett and senior National Party leaders dressed up in nice sounding language about "assisting ", "supporting ", " unlocking" beneficiaries with health and disability out of their benefit "dependence ". He may realise too late that the true agenda and end result will look a fair bit different.


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12). Charmayne Te Nana-Williams



'What Ever It Takes '

http://www.whateverittakes.co.nz/



"What Ever It Takes Home Based Rehabilitation Services

is a programme designed to work in partnership with our clients, their family and support networks to achieve quality delivery of home based rehabilitation and support services in the community. "



"The company has been established by Charmeyne Te Nana-Williams and her husband Peter Williams. Peter suffered a traumatic brain injury in 2002 as a result of a boxing match. At the time Peter and Charmeyne had 8 month old twin daughters and they had to battle to try to return home and remain together as a family. Once they did return home the next challenge involved bringing together a highly competent team of rehabilitation assistants and caregivers to support them as a family and Peter' s rehabilitation goals. This programme has been developed as a result of Peter and Charmeyne 's personal experience and is based around the simple philosophy of creating a completely conducive environment to care and rehabilitation. "



"Families with injuries stay close ", 17 Nov. 2011:

http://www.stuff.co....ries-stay-close



' Noted Speaker: Charmeyne Te Nana-Williams & Te Miria James-Hohaia'

http://www.pacrim.ha...s/speaker01.php



Comments:

This background of Charmayne Te Nana-Williams sounds admirable, and one must appreciate the struggles she, her disabled husband and their children have been through. It is a situation where adversary was turned into coping strategies, and then realised as an opportunity. It says on the website of the provider business that purchasers of the care packages they offer are ACC, the Ministry of Health and private purchasers.



So this is another situation, where a caring partner and her disabled husband have established a service business, which will certainly have impressed the persons who chose Charmayne to be on the Panel. At the same time the participant may have joined also with the expectation that future purchases by MSD may be in the pipeline. Such a service can only survive on purchases made through the public purse, by the state, as there will be few other customers able to pay for it.



There are always some prominent and evident success stories, and my impression has been, going also by Paula Bennett 's speech to medical professionals on 26 September 2012, that she likes to hold up such cases, to try and prove, that sick and disabled can achieve more than they themselves, or others in the public, may think they can.



This though is again part of an approach that in my view has been taking advantage of well-intending people, like some that were on the Health and Disability Panel set up by MSD. Charmayne and her team just fit so nicely into the officially, publicly presented approach. Let us hope any potential disappointments will not be too painful.



13). Pati Umaga - Disability Advocate and Musician



Pati Umaga on LinkedIn:

http://nz.linkedin.c...maga/19/70b/43b



"Pati honoured for his work to remove disability stigma ", Stuff.Co, 'The Hutt News ', 10 Jan. 2012

http://www.stuff.co....sability-stigma



" "Helping to break down stereotypes about people with disabilities amongst the Pacific Island community is a major driver for Pati Umaga. The Naenae resident has been awarded a Queen's Service Medal for services to the Pacific community. Mr Umaga knows the problems facing the disabled. A fall from slipping on a shower mat in 2005 left him paralysed. "



"Removing the stigma about disability within our own Pacific community is a big thing for me. We kind of get left a bit behind because we're still trying to come to terms with how our culture views the disabled. "



"We're often seen as being 'broken' and told we should stay home, but with a lot of hard work we're making inroads into changing those views. There is quite a groundswell of positive stuff happening within the community; we're getting there slowly. "



A musician, he was involved with the establishment of the Tu Tangata programme and co-founded the Contemporary Music Programme at Whitireia Polytechnic. "



Pati Umaga, QSM, Lower Hutt, the Governor General 's website, 01 May 2012:

http://gg.govt.nz/co...-qsm-lower-hutt



"For services to the Pacific community. Mr Pati Umaga is Chair of the Wellington Pasefika Disability Network, Chair of the ACC National Serious Injury Service Advisory Group and a member of the Health and Disability Commissioner 's Consumer Advisory Group, along with other advisory groups. He was involved in the establishment of the Tu Tangata programme and co-founded the Contemporary Music Programme at Whitireia Community Polytechnic. He co-ordinated and directed the Pacific component for the Firestone Fireshow, which was part of the celebrations around Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, in 1995. In 2005, as a result of a fall, he became a permanent wheelchair user and formed the Wellington Pasefika Disability Network. "



Comments:

Again, with much respect for the past fate and challenges that Pati Umaga has been through, I am afraid, that also in his case, he and his good intentions are likely to have been taken advantage of, to serve as another voice to underscore the official, nice sounding line of presenting, explaining and justifying the policies by this National led government, with Paula Bennett as Minister for Social Development.



I am absolutely certain that Pati Umaga, like a fair few others on this "Health and Disability Panel ", were aware of what is behind the agenda being followed. Yes, in certain severe cases the affected sick and disabled on benefits will be treated with reasonable, perhaps fair consideration, and will be offered support and left alone, if they wish so.



But for the many formerly on sickness and invalid 's benefits, now turned into "job-seekers " and " Living Support" benefit recipients, the approach will likely be less respectful and considerate. As Professor Mansel Aylward has repeatedly stated, and as Dr David Bratt has claimed in his many presentations, only about 15 per cent of sick and disabled with incapacitated are supposed to not be able to work, simply for health or disability reasons.



The talk of "illness belief ", which Mansel Aylward, Gordon Waddell and others have repeated and spread, does have a worrying ring in my ears, and many will sooner or later be assessed as "capable " to do some work, whatever hypothetical, restricted, menial and casual work this may be. It is certainly the drive to save costs, that is first of all behind the reforms, all else is sadly a bit of misinformation and "window dressing ".



14). Roy Wilson - CEO of 'Career Moves Trust '

http://www.careermov...ge/career_5.php



From the website of 'Career Moves ':

"Career Moves, Whai Umanga -

Located in Hamilton in the Waikato, New Zealand



An independent, " stand-alone" service that works collaboratively with support and employment services. View more about Career Moves. "



"The Ministry of Social Development and Accident Compensation Corporation contract Career Moves to provide its services . Financial support is also provided through grants from a number of charitable funding sources- See annual report for the names of funders. "



"The Employment Service for people who face significant challenges to employment

Providing:

Supported Employment

Transition from School to the Community

Consultancy



Operating primarily in the area of disability, Career Moves has the intention of extending its services to all people who face significant barriers to employment. "



"Mission Statement

To enhance the lives of those people who face disabling barriers to employment by supporting them to gain and sustain a career through the use of Supported Employment services "



"History

Brief History Of the Career Moves Transition Service



Since its inception in 2000 Career Moves has been proactive in promoting and driving the concept of a planned Transition for students leaving school. It has provided its own Transition service to students since that time.



The Ministry of Social Development (MSD) came on board in 2003 to become the major funder of the Career Moves Transition Service.



Career Moves realised that while there is no argument for readiness training for people wanting to look for work there is a need for many students to gain a practical insight into the requirements of work and workplace culture.



We believe that the Transition planning should begin at age 14 with the more intensive programme itself running for the students final two years of school. People should be leaving school at an equivalent time as their peers and not automatically waiting until they turn 21. "



"What is Supported Employment?

Simply put, supported employment is about enabling people marginalized in the labour market to gain and retain paid work in the ordinary workplace. Supported employment is a concept that looks to find ways to assist people disadvantaged in the labour market to reach their career aspirations. It is NOT just about getting a person a job - that is called ' job placement'. Supported employment involves more than just finding a job for a person.



Right from the beginning organisations and writers involved in supported employment have generally agreed on the following six core principles as being those that define supported employment. (ASENZ 1994; Bennie, 1996: Hagner & DiLeo 1993; Mcloughlin, Garner & Callahan, 1987; Powell et al 1988, Taylor 1996. "





"Where did it come from?

Supported employment grew out of the rehabilitation sector in the USA during the late 1970s in response to the philosophy of "Normalisation " and the instructional techniques developed by Marc Gold. These were supplemented through university demonstration projects such as those undertaken and described by Wehman, Bellamy, Horner, Inman and others. Over time the experience of this new "place and train " version of vocational rehabilitation came to be recognised as providing success where previously there had been none. It also led to a reconceptualisation of the rehabilitation paradigm. Supported employment, as this approach increasingly became called, challenged the view of getting people ready for work by assuming all disabled people have the potential for direct inclusion into regular employment . (Bennie, 1991) "





BUT - perhaps consider this very recent news:

"Disabled jobseekers hit because scheme too popular ", Waikato Times, 18.05.2013:

http://www.stuff.co....eme-too-popular



"A funding freeze for a successful disability employment programme is harming job prospects for people in the Waikato, employment advocates say. Processing of applications for the Mainstream Employment Programme, which provided subsidies, training and support to help people with disabilities get into work, was halted in September last year.



The Ministry of Social Development froze the programme to ensure the budget was not overspent, citing "unprecedented demand" as putting strain on the budget. The fund was originally set up to help people in the public sector find work, but in July last year eligibility was extended to the private sector - causing demand to jump.



However, Waikato disability employment experts have said halting the initiative has harmed job prospects for people with disabilities. Roy Wilson, chief executive of Hamilton disability employment service Career Moves, said his organisation did not solely rely on the scheme, but it was the most highly supportive they used.



"It has curtailed what we could do. It was a useful scheme, especially as we're still dealing with the unemployment echoes of the recession." Mr Wilson said Career Moves had a number of clients still on the Mainstream programme, and it was disappointing it was no longer functioning. "



"According to the MSD there are 227 people currently receiving Mainstream assistance around the country, with 12 recipients in the Waikato region. Funding was $3.5 million for 2012 financial year - $74,000 more than 2011, but down $305,000 on 2008. "



Roy Wilson - on 'Old Friends ', Trade Me, re: 'Waikato Community Living Trust ':

http://www.oldfriend...d.aspx?id=23492



"Roy Wilson attended from 1994 to 1997

1. Cant really remember what years he worked at the Occupation Service as the Supported Employment Co-oridintor. He took over from Raewyn Joad

Posted by Barbara Manning Mon, 09 Dec 2002

2. Roy Wilson is now managing a supported employment service in Hamilton called Career Moves



Last saw Roy in 2006

Posted by Kate Shaw Wed, 15 Feb 2006 "





Comments:

With his 'Career Moves Trust ' Roy Wilson and his team are obviously specialised in the field of integrating persons with disability and similar challenges into the work-force, using the supported employment approach. It is though quite evident that they are only able to operate on state subsidies and the likes. Roy Wilson appears to run a service that can to some degree be compared to other providers like 'Workbridge ' and 'Workwise ', who also receive funding from the Ministry of Social Development.



I do welcome such efforts, as long as they are genuine, fair and inclusive, and lead to constructive, lasting results, where disabled and sick, same as others facing challenges on the job market, get placed into reasonably secure, lasting jobs, where they are paid a decent income for a meaningful, acceptable working role.



This works in some cases, but certainly not in all cases. There will always be many people on benefits, who are not going to be able to hold down any job demanding a minimum degree of physical or mental strength, endurance, reliability, basic function, and have a capability to work productively and efficiently enough to justify the position. Many people will only be able to work if subsidised for longer periods - if not permanently, as they will not be able to produce the same output and results as persons without impairment or incapacity may deliver.



As the government policy now being implemented - as the most substantial welfare reforms for a long time - is though intended to save costs over the longer term, I have great doubts that the government is going to be prepared to pay for that many of these kinds of services, as they simply will cost a fair bit. After all, the intention is to put beneficiaries with health and disability into open employment, which means non-subsidised jobs. A concern is also, that performance based fees, which have already been revealed through media reports, will result in such outsourced service providers being forced to deliver sufficient numbers of positive results, which will only lead to "client " being referred to whatever jobs there may be available, and they will mostly be marginal, part-time or casual, low paid, and not very demanding, and consequently not really fulfilling kinds of positions.



As many healthy and fit persons without illness and disability already have difficulties finding work, I have very serious doubt that this kind of service will become the lasting success story it appears to be at present (with subsidies being paid). The limits to funding have already become apparent in that very recent 'Waikato Times ' article from 18 May 2013.



So I am not at all surprised that Roy Wilson was chosen to sit on the Health and Disability Panel selected by MSD, as he is already working with them, serves their very intentions, and has himself an interest in the welfare reform creating a larger market for his services.



He will have most certainly be a full supporter of the welfare reforms by the government.


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E). Summary Conclusions and Comments:



It must be noted with greatest interest, that the Ministry of Social Development and Minister Paula Bennett initially tried to withhold details about the members of this 'Health and Disability Panel ', as the article in ' NZ Doctor' titled "Four GPs advise on new benefit " from 29 February 2012 reveals. The fact that this information was initially withheld and only reluctantly presented upon an Official Information Act request tells us something, about the processes followed in introducing these social welfare reforms!



As for the composition of the members on that Panel, it should be more than evident, from the information provided for each one of them, that the clear majority had already a prior bias in favour of the reforms. Many even had a vested interest in the reforms to be implemented, and some were also high calibre "experts ", who have in the past been supportive of the chosen approaches, that have already been used in the United Kingdom for many years now.



The facts that Professor Mansel Aylward and Dame Carol Black were invited to meet some of the Health and Disability Panel, which clearly had been planned and arranged from the outset, and that the Panel also simply continued on from the Welfare Working Group 's report, by focussing only on defined health and disability matters, and especially those related to the future assessment of sick and disabled beneficiaries, with the goal of getting more prepared to access work, do in themselves show, that a set agenda was being followed.



There was little if any outside input into the final policy drafting preparations, and I see that the ordinary affected beneficiaries (those that are not known, successful entrepreneurs, advocates or artists) had NO direct input at all, at any stage of the processes followed.



Only the submission process, by allowing citizens, residents and various organisations to submit further statements and sundry evidence to the Social Services Committee, allowed some public input into the development and refinement of a prepared and presented bill. Yet even in that case, the bulk of submissions were totally ignored, and only minor, virtually "cosmetic " changes were made to few parts of the bill, which was then enacted.



Hence the initially pre-determined agenda was pushed through with only few changes, resulting in an amended Social Security Act 1964, which is already one of the most amended Acts amongst all statutes, and is now so complex, it is almost impossible to work with and administer. The outsourcing of services will lead to more issues to arise, as has happened in the UK and other countries, and in the end the whole exercise will lead to suffering and harm amongst too many that it was initially intended to "help ". I predict that few if any costs will be saved, as harm and damage is likely to result in more health and justice sector expenditure.



As for Mansel Aylward and his perverted interpretation of the "bio psycho-social model ", he appears to confuse cause and result, when it comes to statistics on sick and disabled on benefits. There is clearly a lack of solid research in the areas of illness, disability; incapacity and how work may be of some benefit to some suffering such conditions, or in other cases potentially rather exacerbate conditions. Work is also not just work, there are different forms of work, and the drive by the governments in the UK and here, to push sick and disabled into paid employment on the open market can only have very limited success.



With the reforms now being implemented, New Zealanders with health conditions that have resulted in them depending on benefit income, are now facing a huge, unprecedented "experiment ", to gather new "evidence " on how the reforms will work or not. It is in my view irresponsible for a government to expose such vulnerable people to such tests, given also the fact that the " science" it is based on is disputed and highly controversial.





F). Additional important resources of relevance to all this:



'WELFARE REFORM PAPER C: HEALTH AND DISABILITY '; 'Office of the Minister for Social Development '; Chair Cabinet Social Policy Committee, 27 July 2012:

http://www.msd.govt....-disability.pdf

(see Appendix Two for the "Health and Disability panel members and key advice ")



Social Security (Benefit Categories and Work Focus) Amendment Bill, submissions:

http://www.parliamen...focus-amendment



http://www.parliamen...hoh_bill11634_1



"New Board to oversee Work and Income Performance ", Scoop, 15 May 2012:

http://www.scoop.co....performance.htm



"Social Development Minister Paula Bennett today announced the new Work and Income board members to oversee the investment approach to welfare.



This new approach will be embedded at all levels of the welfare system and the Board will be responsible for ensuring accountability and overseeing the delivery of reforms that will see fewer people on welfare for long periods



"Paula Rebstock will chair the Board with five other members from outside the public service with a wide range of relevant experience and expertise. "



"They will help make decisions about which interventions work best for individuals and will oversee trials to collect best evidence, " says Mrs Bennett.



The Work and Income Board will:



Advise and support the Chief Executive of the Ministry of Social Development in the implementation of welfare reforms



Report to the Minister for Social Development, the Minister of Finance and the Minister of State Services on Work and Income 's performance



The Board members are:



* Ms Paula Rebstock (Chair)

* Dr Ian McPherson

* Professor Kathryn McPherson

* Mr Andrew Body

* Mr Reg Barrett

* Ms Debbie Packer



Members of the Board have experience in the insurance and finance industries which already use investment approaches to reduce future liability. "



"Work and Income Board members



Ms Paula Rebstock (Chair)



Ms Rebstock was the Chair of the Welfare Working Group which reported to Ministers in February 2011. She is currently Deputy Chair of the New Zealand Railways Corporation, Chair of the Insurance and Savings Ombudsman Commission and a member of the Accident Compensation Corporation Board. Ms Rebstock was previously the Chair of the Commerce Commission and has expertise in governance, economic regulation, and labour market policy.



Dr Ian McPherson is the Chief Executive Officer of Southern Cross Healthcare Group. He holds a medical degree from Otago University and started his career in medicine with the Waikato Hospital Board. From 1982 to 1985, he worked for the International Red Cross as Medical Co-ordinator. He has been chief executive officer for New Zealand hospital boards and worked in the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet and the Ministry of Health, advising on New Zealand health reform.



Professor Kathryn McPherson was a member of the Welfare Working Group. She is a Professor of Rehabilitation (Laura Fergusson Chair) at the Auckland University of Technology and is a Visiting Professor at the University of Southampton as well as at King's College London. Professor McPherson has a PhD from Edinburgh University and a background in nursing, midwifery and psychology. Professor McPherson will bring to the Board expertise in the rehabilitation for people with chronic and disabling conditions including strokes, rheumatoid arthritis, chronic pain or life threatening illness.



Mr Andrew Body is a member of the Crown Fibre Holdings Board, and has more than 20 years experience in business. He was a shareholder and Director of FR Partners until 2001. Mr Body brings strong financial skills to the Board.



Mr Reg Barrett is a Wellington based company director and business consultant involved in both the private and public sector. He held CEO positions spanning 13 years and has over 10 years executive experience in a range of business environments as well as 20 years experience as a member or chairman on a range of Boards. Mr Barrett brings governance and critical information technology skills to the Board.



Ms Debbie Packer (Ngati Ruanui, Nga Rauru) is a South Taranaki based company director and business consultant. She also has experience in both the private and public sector. She is a former Deputy Mayor of the South Taranaki District Council. She is a current member of the Minister of Maori Affairs and the Minister for Economic Development 's Independent Maori Economic Development Panel.



ENDS



* Scoop Media "





Of particular interest is the continuing involvement of Paula Rebstock in a leading role, and also that of Professor Kathryn McPherson, as she was already also on the "Welfare Working Group ", and on the "Health and Disability Panel "!!!



But this newly created 'Work and Income Board ' appears to be yet another constructed body that is worthy of a separate examination and analysis at a later stage.









G). Final Comment



This summary report with substantial resource information and comments is best read alongside my earlier post on ACC Forum, which is found via this link:



http://accforum.org/...-and-acc-compo/





This comprehensive analysis and resource summary with personal comments was prepared and is being made available for free viewing, reading and sharing by:





"Quest for Justice "





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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:46 AM

Dear ALL,

sorry for the volume and detail, but we must expose the workings by some government agencies, be they ACC, WINZ or whatever, when they apply and follow questionable practices and processes. Hence my post. As before, there is a "tidy", more easily readable and downloadable PDF copy of this text available, which can be shared freely, as we ALL want the truth to come out!!

Thanks, have a good night, and keep up the fight for JUSTICE!

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:01 AM

Unit 1of 2

I read this with distress, but I honestly do not get it!

Why do New Zealanders put up with such crap???

The welfare system was never designed to be so punitive, and what we have now is very bad, it will only get much worse.

There are actually groups like AAAP (Auckland Action Against Poverty), and they are very committed to fight all this, but their resources are limited, other agencies and advocates had their funding cut, and many had to close shop. Yet we have Paula Bennett go around sanctimoniously to trumpet about how much she does for the needy.

I think something is very, very rotten. I also read more and more stories about former ACC recipients now living off welfare benefits, and now even being pushed to look for some work while on the Jobseeker Benefit.

It is insane, and I know many are shafted and feel powerless, but why, why do New Zealanders not take a stand. If this happened in many other countries, there would be protests, strikes or whatever. But it never happens here, as too many are isolated, divided, and do not trust each other.

It is a real worry, shame and makes me angry.

But I publish this here, simply to raise awareness, and I will try to link to other blogs and so, that the news gets spread, I cannot help in many other ways, but I hope that this at least will open a few more eyes and ears.

Take care and try to help where you can, otherwise spread the advice and information, please.


Good night, and I wish I could get this communicated to many others.


Rgds

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View Postunit1of2, on 22 August 2013 - 12:58 AM, said:

I know of a Solo mum who has two lovely children. Months ago attended the typical Course people are made to attend or your cut off your benefit. She again obtains another job, via the WINZ process. She has NO money coming in at all once she has been accepted on a job. She had to wait weeks for any payment via her job. This set her back on her Rent, Power etc... Also remember she has to feed two children, one attends intermediate the other high school.

NO money for bus fares, school lunches, or meals. Has an old car that she has managed to get mobile and assists other people needing a lift to the same job by picking them up. She hopes that they will see their way clear to throw a few bob her way for gas, as she has already 'burrowed money' for gas herself to get to the job. She also takes the risk of getting caught with NO current Registration, because she has no funds obviously to be legal.
The Job is quite along way from where she lives.

She and the others are told by WINZ that the job will take them through to Sept this year. Sadly the employer informed them a few weeks ago that he now nolonger has any work for them. The job only lasted approx 4 months. Oh, and they only got paid for the days they worked, they wern't paid a cent if rained off.

So after waiting weeks for her first pay, she is already weeks behind in rent etc. WINZ will NOT backdate anything. NOW she has to go through the very same processes. RING for an appointment (no-one can ever walk in and make an appointment, ever) Wait the typical 3 weeks for your appointment date to roll round, to be told you must enroll again and complete the same WINZ Course that she already completed approx 4 months ago. If she (or anyone) doesn't attend the course they are Cut Off, and stood down from any assistance.

Now again whilst the 3 weeks for an appointment rolls round, 'there is no financial help'. Waits another 2 or so weeks for the WINZ Course to roll round. Still no financial assistance. She attends the WINZ Course, Still waiting for some financial assistance. If NO job rolls up before the course has just ended, she maybe lucky to get some Financial assistance and she will be even luckier to get the Back dated portion of her long awaited financial assistance/benefit so she THEN CAN PAY HER OVER DUE RENT, RE-CONNECT POWER AND pay some folk back the money she would have had to beg for to get by from other really needy poorer folk.

HOWEVER WINZ have a plan for most folk... from the Course they will get you/she to attend even a 'part-time, something' job that again may only last a few weeks. WHY, well it's because once they can sign you off as 'working' again before your 'due financial assistance comes up for processing with Back Dated Arrears, WINZ CANCEL THE PERSONS/HER CLAIM FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND CANCEL ALL THE BACK DATED ARREARS WITH IT.

This person like many others are left in deeper doo doo's. With Rent arrears still hanging, eviction notices sent, Power cut off again etc etc etc... The very same cyclic bullshit...

WHO SUFFERS... 'EVERYONE AND THEIR CHILDREN'.......

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:13 AM

WELL DONE.... GOOD WORK QFJ... :)/>
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:17 AM

Unit 1of2

This is shocking, I cannot believe it, and I tell people again and again, if you do not get paid by an employer for more than one week, take steps to prepare for the worst. WINZ have turned into the opposite of what they are supposed to be there for. Read my comments in this thread, it is all proved, well researched and true, and the same applies to another post weeks ago. I have more information, and WINZ and MSD are now out to cull many more off benefits. Bennett I think does not even know what is going on, she is deluded and up herself. The CEOs are powers to themselves, and the inner workings of WINZ, which is the biggest government department in NZ, are so powerful, they are like a state within a state. Most reforms and law changes are actually thought out by policy and planning departments within MSD and WINZ. They are totally disconnected to the average citizen let alone beneficiary. It is all about number, calculations, costs and so forth, nothing much to do with day to day concerns for individual people or beneficiaries.

No wonder many take them for a ride, if they can, and no wonder that there is some crime, as that is the American solution and way to rebel. If you are denied dignity and a fair deal, there is only crime and prostitution to survive.

New Zealand is heading that way, and it gets worse by the week. I have met mental health cases that are walking time bombs.

Yet WINZ pressures and off-loads them, as if they are not ill and only pretend.

We are in for some shockingly bad experiences, while this horrible "experiment" is tried here, while it failed abysmally in the UK already.

Fasten your seat belts, it will get worse and very rocky.

I wish I could offer more assistance, but I am struggling myself to survive and fight the injustices I encountered.

I am sorry I cannot offer more consolation.

QFJ


View Postunit1of2, on 22 August 2013 - 12:58 AM, said:

I know of a Solo mum who has two lovely children. Months ago attended the typical Course people are made to attend or your cut off your benefit. She again obtains another job, via the WINZ process. She has NO money coming in at all once she has been accepted on a job. She had to wait weeks for any payment via her job. This set her back on her Rent, Power etc... Also remember she has to feed two children, one attends intermediate the other high school.

NO money for bus fares, school lunches, or meals. Has an old car that she has managed to get mobile and assists other people needing a lift to the same job by picking them up. She hopes that they will see their way clear to throw a few bob her way for gas, as she has already 'burrowed money' for gas herself to get to the job. She also takes the risk of getting caught with NO current Registration, because she has no funds obviously to be legal.
The Job is quite along way from where she lives.

She and the others are told by WINZ that the job will take them through to Sept this year. Sadly the employer informed them a few weeks ago that he now nolonger has any work for them. The job only lasted approx 4 months. Oh, and they only got paid for the days they worked, they wern't paid a cent if rained off.

So after waiting weeks for her first pay, she is already weeks behind in rent etc. WINZ will NOT backdate anything. NOW she has to go through the very same processes. RING for an appointment (no-one can ever walk in and make an appointment, ever) Wait the typical 3 weeks for your appointment date to roll round, to be told you must enroll again and complete the same WINZ Course that she already completed approx 4 months ago. If she (or anyone) doesn't attend the course they are Cut Off, and stood down from any assistance.

Now again whilst the 3 weeks for an appointment rolls round, 'there is no financial help'. Waits another 2 or so weeks for the WINZ Course to roll round. Still no financial assistance. She attends the WINZ Course, Still waiting for some financial assistance. If NO job rolls up before the course has just ended, she maybe lucky to get some Financial assistance and she will be even luckier to get the Back dated portion of her long awaited financial assistance/benefit so she THEN CAN PAY HER OVER DUE RENT, RE-CONNECT POWER AND pay some folk back the money she would have had to beg for to get by from other really needy poorer folk.

HOWEVER WINZ have a plan for most folk... from the Course they will get you/she to attend even a 'part-time, something' job that again may only last a few weeks. WHY, well it's because once they can sign you off as 'working' again before your 'due financial assistance comes up for processing with Back Dated Arrears, WINZ CANCEL THE PERSONS/HER CLAIM FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE AND CANCEL ALL THE BACK DATED ARREARS WITH IT.

This person like many others are left in deeper doo doo's. With Rent arrears still hanging, eviction notices sent, Power cut off again etc etc etc... The very same cyclic bullshit...

WHO SUFFERS... 'EVERYONE AND THEIR CHILDREN'.......

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 05:02 AM

The problem is that NZ has become a country which lacks morals, the supposed rule of law takes presidence over what is morally right which is why agencies like ACC and WINZ get away with it. Unless you are prepared to take your fight all the way no one will do anything. And even if you beat them, the next person down the line doesnt benefit because they will just ignore the courts ruling because they know that the Juducary will not do anything about it. For example how many times has ACC been told by the courts that they cant just keep sending people for assessment after assessment until they get one that suits ACC's needs. They can not cherry pick reports but must use all the assessments when making a decision. Does ACC stop this practice, nope they carry on. Contempt of Court is a serious charge but it seems that if you are a Govt Dept you can do it as much as you want. Until a Judge actually decides to use the law and inprison/fine a ACC staffer and also fine ACC heavily, why should they stop. Morality doesnt ever come into the equation.
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 08:18 AM

Well, Markieboy - The real problem with NZ is YOU and your sake, the cowardice, the continual back stop excuses, the cop out arguments, and you are ALL DIVIDED, against each other, having individual agendas and NO unity, that is the biggest problem in New Zealand, and I bloody well know what I am talking about, I have come from overseas and lived here over 20 years. So do not try the high ground Kiwi know it better or all approach, it is YOU yourselves that are the BIGGEST problem, because you are not UNIFIED and do NOT stand your grounds. NO wonder a corrupt government has such easy game, no wonder the many people selling their homes for gains to new migrants or returned residents with pockets full of money, this is the greatest problem of New Zealand, too many of yours HATE each other and do NOT stand your ground.

Sad this is, and I do NOT blame you all, but when I read your comment, you ingnited anger, and here you have it.

Get a wake up call, get real, you will never survive in a society of me first and stuff the rest, and we all have to accept this.

Perhaps you will get the message eventually. I will try to forgive you, but you are misled.

Also socialism is of course no end solution, but we must meet middle ground somewhere, for sure.

Best of luck

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View PostMarkieboy, on 22 August 2013 - 05:02 AM, said:

The problem is that NZ has become a country which lacks morals, the supposed rule of law takes presidence over what is morally right which is why agencies like ACC and WINZ get away with it. Unless you are prepared to take your fight all the way no one will do anything. And even if you beat them, the next person down the line doesnt benefit because they will just ignore the courts ruling because they know that the Juducary will not do anything about it. For example how many times has ACC been told by the courts that they cant just keep sending people for assessment after assessment until they get one that suits ACC's needs. They can not cherry pick reports but must use all the assessments when making a decision. Does ACC stop this practice, nope they carry on. Contempt of Court is a serious charge but it seems that if you are a Govt Dept you can do it as much as you want. Until a Judge actually decides to use the law and inprison/fine a ACC staffer and also fine ACC heavily, why should they stop. Morality doesnt ever come into the equation.

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:03 PM

Well being witness to the absolute poverty and treatment of some people in the states, left me horrified that this is what Key and his lot have inline for us NZrs... hence his ignorant public change of face TV personality speeches and so called Q&A's stances. He's all Pro' the American way.

There are worse situations of business large and small totally abusing the lives of 'people'. These people in business have absolute power over their employees, hence a person never knows from one day to the next if they will ever have a job.

Mobs of unemployed on the streets, alot meandering to certain intersections whilst awaiting food handouts etc... Fights break out over plastic bags. The pure frustration of their existence etched on some faces. Some folk of course lost in the world of drugs and alchohol. Some mentally ill, or disabled. A few were actually very well dressed (still), clean and sadly pan handling.

I have seen some sights in NZ... however I fear for NZrs. We are in for an all out blow out of grave proportions. As a NZr, I fear that the greater portion of NZrs will succomb to this governments gross out of control treatment of those whom are less fortunate than ourselves.

This Keys government is so focused on 'The All American Way'.. Which has proven not to work so well in America. America is so financially focused on Military, Security, Policing the crap out of people, businesses screwing people. And the fact that America is basically owned by China! So what the ...!!!! Yeah great skills America... NOT!

And now we have a Government so far removed from the reality of NZ and it's population. I'm fearful for us NZrs and I fear even more for the Un-well, the Disabled, the Mentally ill and victims of Abuse.

SHAME ON THIS GOVT...IMHO


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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:14 PM

View PostMarc, on 22 August 2013 - 08:18 AM, said:

Well, Markieboy - The real problem with NZ is YOU and your sake, the cowardice, the continual back stop excuses, the cop out arguments, and you are ALL DIVIDED, against each other, having individual agendas and NO unity, that is the biggest problem in New Zealand, and I bloody well know what I am talking about, I have come from overseas and lived here over 20 years. So do not try the high ground Kiwi know it better or all approach, it is YOU yourselves that are the BIGGEST problem, because you are not UNIFIED and do NOT stand your grounds. NO wonder a corrupt government has such easy game, no wonder the many people selling their homes for gains to new migrants or returned residents with pockets full of money, this is the greatest problem of New Zealand, too many of yours HATE each other and do NOT stand your ground.

Sad this is, and I do NOT blame you all, but when I read your comment, you ingnited anger, and here you have it.

Get a wake up call, get real, you will never survive in a society of me first and stuff the rest, and we all have to accept this.

Perhaps you will get the message eventually. I will try to forgive you, but you are misled.

Also socialism is of course no end solution, but we must meet middle ground somewhere, for sure.

Best of luck

Marcus

LOl, so its my fault. MMMMM lets see, I am over 50 and am disgusted that NZ has gone from a country where we looked after our neighbours to become over the last 30 years a country like almost every country in the world where the 1 and only priority in life is me me me. If you think that NZ is alone in this then all I can say Marcus is open your eyes.

What evidence do you have that we are "no wonder the many people selling their homes for gains to new migrants" when the real evidence not Labours and the Greens political claptrap shows that only approx 5% of home sales are to migrants. And good luck to all those who have been overseas and earned big bucks and are now coming home. I say well done, welcome home.

Unfortunately NZ has followed the lead on "Greed is good" and that unfortunately is one of the reasons we no longer care about the next man, in fact many people care more about animals than people, but the silent majority once again do not attempt to make themselves heard and as a result we have a small number of people who have made all the decisions that lead us to where we are now. Everyone for themselves and stuff the man next door. It is with a sigh of relief that I do not have to try and bring my kids up in this day and age because quite frankly NZ is no longer a different place from the rest of the world, it is now just the same.

If that makes you angry at me Marcus, go for it because then all it does is prove my point. When I was growing up, we learnt to debate things, we might not agree with what the other person was saying but we at least acknowledge that they were entitled to their opinion, but now if you disagree, you feel entitled to personally attack the other person. Well Marcus, my opinion is as relevant as yours and both of us are entitled to hold the opinions we hold but the difference is I have the intelligence to actually hold back from attacking you as a person and your opinion is still as valid as mine. And what also comes to mind is that if you believe NZ is such a corrupt and vile place and quite different from everywhere else in the world, all I can ask is "why are you still here". Perhaps its time you left this horrible corrupt country, because let me assure you, NZ is still one of the least corrupt countries in the world and despite all our issues I believe we are still one of the best. Yes we can improve but then tell me a country that couldn't do better.
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