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An injured spine & sent home with wrong diagnoses

#1 User is offline   Geri Townsley 

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 10:00 PM

My former GP thought I had a muscle injury, well finally after 6 years I've received my x-ray report and it showed that the sacral (S1) region in my lumbar area is injured, which disrupts the control of my left leg, causing pain and spasm in my left calf muscle.
One area the x-ray could not see into (since I have high-density bone structure) was between my shoulder blades. Therefore, MRI is next and those idiots at ACC will be paying! Yay.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 06:36 AM

View PostGeri Townsley, on 29 June 2012 - 10:00 PM, said:

My former GP thought I had a muscle injury, well finally after 6 years I've received my x-ray report and it showed that the sacral (S1) region in my lumbar area is injured, which disrupts the control of my left leg, causing pain and spasm in my left calf muscle.
One area the x-ray could not see into (since I have high-density bone structure) was between my shoulder blades. Therefore, MRI is next and those idiots at ACC will be paying! Yay.

Geri


If it involves elective surgery those fraudsters in Dunedin will quite likely tell you it is a "Degenerative condition".
Be ready for it and act quickly to get yourself a good advocate.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 07:28 AM

then you should apply for the treatment error, treatment mishap....acceptance fo your injury

the injury was there

it was misdiagnosed

the acc are well out of time to make a correct decision...based on the injuries...

whatever track you take its a hard road...

did you realise the waiting time from review to D/C is approximately 2 years!!!
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#4 User is offline   Geri Townsley 

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 09:40 AM

View Postnot their victim, on 30 June 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

then you should apply for the treatment error, treatment mishap....acceptance fo your injury

did you realise the waiting time from review to D/C is approximately 2 years!!!


My lawyer is going for treatment error and treatment mishap. My next step is MRI, then it's off to see a specialist.
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Posted 30 June 2012 - 10:43 AM

way to go!!!

acc are now well out of time to have diagnosed, treated and rehabilitated you...

another technical botch up by acc....

glad to hear you have a lawyer fighting for your rights...

go get em tiger....

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#6 User is offline   Geri Townsley 

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 03:05 PM

View Postnot their victim, on 30 June 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

way to go!!!

acc are now well out of time to have diagnosed, treated and rehabilitated you...

another technical botch up by acc....

glad to hear you have a lawyer fighting for your rights...

go get em tiger....

:)


Will do. B)
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#7 User is offline   Geri Townsley 

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 06:25 PM

Yay, legal aid for my ‪ACC‬ review has been approved and I've emailed revavent information to my lawyer, who's now handling my DSRL review.:D
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:56 PM

I hate to be a downer .... bearer of bad stuff.. I have been fighting my injuries that were never properly assessed, never had a full proper assessment in A & E dept and sent home. I had been fobbed off since day one.. Spine fractures coverd. I have 'deemed cover' for head injury, and won my loss of eyesight at Review, only took 6yrs to finally win after all the bullshit ACC put me through. Now ACC are trying to disprove my TBI ever existed, yet my original Nueropsych assessment states TBI issues and 'urgently needs treatment'. ACC denied me. ACC still fighting over my later diagnosed Spinal/Cervical injuries getting Specialists to say 'natural degeneration'. Not so, as the damage and changes happened in very short time frame compared to other CT evidence that there was no sign of damage at all. Cannot have that amount of change and damage with serious trauma or specific illness which I have never had. ACC have never stepped up to the mark. Reviews, Mediation, ACC renegae on Mediation aggreements, more Reviews and more Reviews to review the Reviews, and still more Reviews to come. Still NO TREATMENT AND NO REHAB.. it's been 10yrs...

Good Luck Geri... A BIG WISH for a GOOD OUTCOME FOR YOU.... I WOULD LOVE to know how you fair up against the odds. Please let me know... :unsure:
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#9 User is offline   Geri Townsley 

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 10:55 AM

I've found a medical examination dated from 2003, states my height was 181cm and I'm now 176cm. So that means (due to my 2006 accident) I lost 5cm in height.

That document plus two blood test reports from also 2003 are in the hands of my lawyer.
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Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:22 PM

View PostGeri Townsley, on 15 August 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

I've found a medical examination dated from 2003, states my height was 181cm and I'm now 176cm. So that means (due to my 2006 accident) I lost 5cm in height.

That document plus two blood test reports from also 2003 are in the hands of my lawyer.



Yes I lost height to from squashed discs and verterbrae in my whole of neck, in my lower back and thoracic...tsk comparative CT, to MRI's and plain xrays show it all. However ACC keep saying it's natural degeneration, and one CM aid to me well maybe you had another accident...??? ...dah go figure!???? No I hadn't had any other accident between Xrays and original accident at all, and told CM don't you think I'd have another ACC claim number if I did considering the extent of injury and changes to spines...pretty serious stuff. Yes I to have issues with my leg because of injury to S and L.. However my TBI also affects my balance. If I am trying in a so called rush to move and multitask my brain shuts down and I collapse because my legs won't respond to the message to 'move'... goes into complete blank...

Be very wary... don't expect anything from ACC like I did. I thought 'yes' I have the proof! Means nothing to them... 10yrs now and still nothing but Reviews upon reviews upon reviews... upon assessments/upon assessments/ more asssessments and more and more and more....and...and...
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:06 AM

SOCIOPATHIC ACC - doubt much will have changed after the latest reports.


NZ POLITICS DAILY: Has ACC become sociopathic?
Bryce Edwards | Saturday June 23, 2012 | 3 comments
Posted Image[color=#666666 !important]Crushed under the heel of Nanny StateThe latest revelations about financial incentives for ACC staff who push accident victims off the books could be perceived as being part of a sociopathic – or at least bureaupathic – culture within the government agency. Green MP Kevin Hague has revealed that case managers are paid a bonus for removing long term claimants and says ‘This sort of scheme is symptomatic of a sick culture within ACC’ – see Adam Bennett’s ACC bonus pay for claimant cull.

ACC argues that getting clients back to work is the focus, but the obvious next question is: how many of those ‘culled’ haven’t actually increased their work hours but have just been pushed on to a benefit or lost income? For the strongest critique of the ACC policy, read Gordon Campbell’s Scoop article On the incentive payments at ACC. Gordon Campbell argues the policy is ‘not just corrupt, it’s insulting’.

The ‘sociopathic’ label has been applied by Labour’s ACC spokesperson Andrew Little to the Minister of ACC, Judith Collins: ‘Her conduct is the conduct of a sociopath, Ms Tolley. Maurice Williamson understands that, because he has worked with too many of them for too long. He knows sociopathic conduct when he sees it’ – see Andrea Vance’s Little always wrong on ACC claims – Collins. Rightwing blogger David Farrar says ‘David Shearer is a decent man. I am sure he does not condone his spokespersons calling Ministers of the Crown sociopaths’ (The hatred and bile from Labour), and Cameron Slater who delves into definitions of ‘sociopathic’, concludes that ‘Based on the evidence it appears that Andrew Little was in fact talking about Trevor Mallard’ (So who is the sociopath? ). The response from Collins herself about Little’s allegations that she ordered ACC to go after Michelle Boag and Bronwyn Pullar have been more restrained: ‘He's just wrong and wrong and wrong. I'm just going to say this about Mr Little. He's just wrong. And again. He's always wrong’. According to Andrea Vance, ‘She also brushed off his claims that she is "a sociopath". "I think he is under stress at the moment. And I forgive him”.’ There are some more important policy debates going on about ACC at the moment. Assoc Prof Grant Duncan of Massey University is an expert on ACC, and he blogs about why Judith Collins is wrong to reject ‘shifting ACC's funding model back from full-funding to pay-as-you-go’ – see: Crusher Collins' voodoo economics. Similarly, blogger Robert Winter says that the latest revelations about ACC indicate that there has been a Perversion of the Woodhouse Principles. For more on the ACC funding debates see Vernon Small’s Funding issue brews in ACC's cauldron.
Bryce EdwardsNZPD Editor (bryce.edwards@nzpoliticsdaily.co.nz)






ACCGordon Campbell (Scoop): Gordon Campbell on the incentive payments at ACCAdam Bennett (Herald): ACC bonus pay for claimant cullRNZ: ACC claimants removal motive deniedRNZ: ACC bonuses symptomatic of 'sick' culture: GreensKate Chapman (Stuff):Bonuses for cutting long-term ACC claimants – GreensKate Chapman (Stuff): 'No-one pushed off entitlements' - ACC chiefTV3: ACC's priorities wrong, critics sayNo Right Turn: Bad incentivesThe Standard: ACC – perverse incentives and sociopathic policyRobert Winter (Idle Thoughts): ACC: The Perversion of the Woodhouse PrinciplesGrant Duncan (Policy Matters): Crusher Collins' voodoo economicsAndrea Vance (Stuff):Little always wrong on ACC claims – CollinsDavid Farrar (Kiwiblog): The hatred and bile from LabourCameron Slater (Whaleoil): So who is the sociopath?
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View Postunit1of2, on 26 August 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

Yes I lost height to from squashed discs and verterbrae in my whole of neck, in my lower back and thoracic...tsk comparative CT, to MRI's and plain xrays show it all. However ACC keep saying it's natural degeneration, and one CM aid to me well maybe you had another accident...??? ...dah go figure!???? No I hadn't had any other accident between Xrays and original accident at all, and told CM don't you think I'd have another ACC claim number if I did considering the extent of injury and changes to spines...pretty serious stuff. Yes I to have issues with my leg because of injury to S and L.. However my TBI also affects my balance. If I am trying in a so called rush to move and multitask my brain shuts down and I collapse because my legs won't respond to the message to 'move'... goes into complete blank...

Be very wary... don't expect anything from ACC like I did. I thought 'yes' I have the proof! Means nothing to them... 10yrs now and still nothing but Reviews upon reviews upon reviews... upon assessments/upon assessments/ more asssessments and more and more and more....and...and...



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Posted 04 September 2012 - 01:59 PM

Since I can't afford an MRI, which costs $1200. Means, I have to give up on my ACC claim. :angry:

Looks like I have to get heavily into debit. Cause #ACC nz pays for nothing! Only way I can pay for an MRI is to call GE Money.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 04:04 PM

View PostGeri Townsley, on 04 September 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

Since I can't afford an MRI, which costs $1200. Means, I have to give up on my ACC claim. :angry:

Looks like I have to get heavily into debit. Cause #ACC nz pays for nothing! Only way I can pay for an MRI is to call GE Money.



If I was you I would do it...independantly of course without ACC handling anything of it. You need an independant Radiologist report. How about going to your GP and getting him to refer you for the MRI, or refering you to a specialist who can also independantly refer you for an MRI on the basis that you had not been properly assessed at the first instance, which under the legislation you are entitled to have FULL assessment/s...

If you pay for your xray, and there is evidence to support your claim then ACC have to reimburse you.

I know who you feel, believe me. I was fortunate to have have my full spine xrayed and MRI's because they were never done at the time. Doctor was definitely a screw lose on that evening, infact I think he was on a promise after spending near on an hour laughing and joking on the telephone at the main desk in A & E dept whilst I was in agony still flat on my back after a very long long ambulance ride..
Not once did he approach me till I finally broke down in shear desperation...
I was sent home without full and proper procedural assessments for the serious type of accident I had. He just flipped me off... I should have had full spinal xrays and a head scan.

I did have to pay for my own head scan. BUT I could have had it done through the public system through the GP, but I chose to go independantly. I have never been reimbursed for it. I do have deemed cover for TBI however ACC are still putting me through hoops etc with excessive assessments trying to discredit the original Neuropsych assessment that identified 'urgent treatment needed in areas of'.... ACC ignored this assessment and left me hanging and abusively have put me through hell and still are.

HANG IN THERE GERI IF YOU CAN.... If your injuries are such that they are causing you disability/s, then FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL. MOST claimants do wind up in excessive debt but when the truth wins out, it's worth to you to prove to all in sundry 'it's NOT IN YOUR HEAD!'... AND treatment/rehab if not left to late, may bring light back into your life and give you renewed ability to work... and have trust and faith again. TILL then it's HELL
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 12:52 PM

My lawyer is asking Legal Aid Service for funding assistance to cover the MRI costs and she can (during the review) claim the expense back.

I've already had an x-ray and there's an injury between my shoulder blades and in my lumbar region, which needs further investigation.

It's been six years now and ACC has done nothing and I'm always in constant in pain as well!
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Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:23 PM

my family paid for mine...to prove a point

it was forced down acc's throat...(C/M anyways...with lawyer in tow!!!! ooops, my bad!)

acc had to re-imburse....end of story...
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Posted 06 September 2012 - 02:33 AM

View PostGeri Townsley, on 05 September 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

My lawyer is asking Legal Aid Service for funding assistance to cover the MRI costs and she can (during the review) claim the expense back.

I've already had an x-ray and there's an injury between my shoulder blades and in my lumbar region, which needs further investigation.

It's been six years now and ACC has done nothing and I'm always in constant in pain as well!



Hi Geri, I am probably overstepping the mark, and you dont have to answer, but I was just wondering what type of accident you had..'a fall, MVA ??'
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Posted 06 September 2012 - 07:23 AM

View Postunit1of2, on 06 September 2012 - 02:33 AM, said:

Hi Geri, I am probably overstepping the mark, and you dont have to answer, but I was just wondering what type of accident you had..'a fall, MVA ??'


Motorcycle accident. Gusty winds blew me off it I hadn't even noticed pain in my lumber region, picking the thing up after swinging my leg over the seat; I noticed pain all right. The day after I felt pain and discomfort between my shoulder blades and from then on my right shoulder generates spasm after spasm. :angry: It's too damn annoying!
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Posted 06 September 2012 - 09:06 AM

View PostGeri Townsley, on 06 September 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

Motorcycle accident. Gusty winds blew me off it I hadn't even noticed pain in my lumber region, picking the thing up after swinging my leg over the seat; I noticed pain all right. The day after I felt pain and discomfort between my shoulder blades and from then on my right shoulder generates spasm after spasm. :angry: It's too damn annoying!



Ouch! That would have been scary, wow.... :o
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Posted 06 September 2012 - 12:28 PM

View Postunit1of2, on 06 September 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:

Ouch! That would have been scary, wow.... :o


Yes it was scary, especially the day after, I was in complete agony. I went and saw my GP he put me on a range of drugs and didn't even ask me to get an x-ray done.Posted Image Now you under why ACC frustrates the hell of me.
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Posted 06 September 2012 - 09:34 PM

I have a injuries that wernt diagnosed to initially because a doctor chose to be an arrogant negligent Ass-hole. Sent me home broken to. ACC don't want to know....
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