[Moeroa]

Info from claimant about Alpha Consultants:

Taylor said she was intolerant of claimants who always blamed ACC for not having rehabbed them, that claimants should get out and spend the money to fund the rehab themselves and that she did not like long-term claimants who were negative, that she was there to get the claimant off ACC.  She said ACC does not owe claimants’ rehab, that it was the claimant’s responsibility to get on with it, and not up to ACC to rehab them (Claimant did not realise the legislation for rehab had been revoked).

Taylor victimised the claimant and made sure the claimant understood that she (Taylor) and the Case Manager, Leanne MacDonnell were great friends and spoke very highly of Mac Donnell.  By way of intimidating claimant further, Taylor said that she enjoyed her long established relationship with Leanne MacDonnell, that they had known each other for several years, that they had an excellent rapport, that she had the Case Manager under her control, and admonished claimant to shut her mouth and to listen.
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Claimant was ordered to return to university despite claimant having been brutally raped on campus by another student and as a consequence had been having treatment for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Offender had also raped another student on campus, that the perp was due to return to university, was no reason according to Taylor for the claimant to stop going, even tho claimant had run out of money to keep paying for classes and transportation costs. Aucklanders beware, Irene Taylor is an exit hatchet woman. Being stalked & raped on campus having no more money for course, is no reason to stop going to classes.

[Russell]

Wow. Do you have anything in writing from Alpha to this effect? If not you should send Alpha a letter to confirm what you say took place and see what reaction you get.
Then take the matter further.

[BLURB]

Moe, on 06 July 2011 - 03:52 AM, said:

Info from claimant about Alpha Consultants:

Taylor said she was intolerant of claimants who always blamed ACC for not having rehabbed them, that claimants should get out and spend the money to fund the rehab themselves and that she did not like long-term claimants who were negative, that she was there to get the claimant off ACC. She said ACC does not owe claimants’ rehab, that it was the claimant’s responsibility to get on with it, and not up to ACC to rehab them (Claimant did not realise the legislation for rehab had been revoked).

Taylor victimised the claimant and made sure the claimant understood that she (Taylor) and the Case Manager, Leanne MacDonnell were great friends and spoke very highly of Mac Donnell. By way of intimidating claimant further, Taylor said that she enjoyed her long established relationship with Leanne MacDonnell, that they had known each other for several years, that they had an excellent rapport, that she had the Case Manager under her control, and admonished claimant to shut her mouth and to listen.
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Claimant was ordered to return to university despite claimant having been brutally raped on campus by another student and as a consequence had been having treatment for Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Offender had also raped another student on campus, that the perp was due to return to university, was no reason according to Taylor for the claimant to stop going, even tho claimant had run out of money to keep paying for classes and transportation costs.

Aucklanders beware, Irene Taylor is an exit hatchet woman. Being stalked & raped on campus & having no more money for course, is no reason to stop going to classes.

Thanks for posting that Moe.

- Leanne Mac Donnell -

Russell, on 06 July 2011 - 07:15 AM, said:

Wow. Do you have anything in writing from Alpha to this effect? If not you should send Alpha a letter to confirm what you say took place and see what reaction you get.
Then take the matter further.

ACC have spent a huge amount of Levy Payers money over the years, including the time she was with AON, on covering up/hiding Leanne Mac Donnells gaslighting style of case management and still continue to do so.

Moe, claimant should be made aware of the fact that she (Leanne Mac Donnell) has a bad habbit of communicating with the provider about the claimant and not recording / making notes in the claimants file, as like she did to me.

Alpha Consultants Auckland Ltd .
465 Mt Eden Rd Auckland 1051
- 09-623 1720

Fran Van Helmond
RD3
Cambridge

[scared]

Alpha consultants will pretend they cannot get hold of you or that they email messages and you do not respond. Funny how we have an answering machine and when this was pointed out they stutter. When you remind them that they can use delivery or read options in word - they stutter on that.
Corrupt pieces of ...ACComplises

[Moeroa]

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was intolerant of claimants who had sat on ACC all those years doing nothing but always blamed ACC for not having rehabbed them, that claimants should get out and fund the rehab themselves and that she was tired of long-term claimants who were negative. She said ACC does not owe claimants’ rehab, that it was the claimant’s responsibility to get on with it, and not up to ACC to rehab them

You are all correct. Because the claimant was upset by the lack of mobility access to Alpha CON-in-sult-ants, Irene Taylor became verbally abusive towards the claimant and launched into a tirade of inappropriate comments.

Leanne Mac Donnell & she were good friends and so she admonished the claimant to "shut your mouth!" and to stop the "attitude" and to just "put the PTSD, rapes and pain aside" and to "stop being negative" and "listen!".

The claimant admits she got off on the wrong foot with Taylor, over the mobility access but tells me she would not have been upset in the first place, had Alpha been mobility accessible. This is discrimination.

ACC should not be referring disabled claimants to CON-in-Sult-ants with inaccessible - therefore discriminatory - premises.


If ACC insist of banishing you to this Hitler woman who has NO mobility access, I suggest all Auckland ACC claimants take a witness (preferably a lawyer) because Taylor cannot be trusted.

Name: Irene Taylor
Position: Vocational Rehabilitation/Career Counsellor
Company: Alpha Consultants
Phone: 09 623 1720
email: ireni.taylor33@gmail.com

http://accforum.org/...tigation-cpanz/

[Campy]

Moe, on 06 July 2011 - 05:09 PM, said:

Name: Irene Taylor
Position: Vocational Rehabilitation/Career Counsellor
Company: Alpha Consultants
Phone: 09 623 1720
email: ireni.taylor33@gmail.com

What a nasty piece of work!

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was intolerant of claimants who had sat on ACC all those years doing nothing but always blamed ACC for not having rehabbed them, that claimants should get out and fund the rehab themselves and that she was tired of long-term claimants who were negative. She said ACC does not owe claimants’ rehab, that it was the claimant’s responsibility to get on with it, and not up to ACC to rehab them

[Compassion]

Maybe this alpha woman was having a bad day and sadly this claimant got the brunt of it if it was delivered in a below the belt way, but I do think there is merrit to what she says too, and good advice to go out and be your own rehab advocate, some treatments like library books are free.

It would be really frustrating to be in a job where she is passionate about inspiring people into meaningful careers and lives but there injurys and mental states are like a wall to climb. She would get discouraged where her good ideas for careers/training can't actually come into fruition (is that a word??), the injurys would frustrate all envolved.

I also aggree with encouraging this woman to keep empowering herself with study (why isn't this guy behind bars if he is a rapist???), I don't buy the run out of money for study thing, as I don't know any students with money, but they take out student loans.

When I have my head in a study book, I certainly am not thinking about being raped, it actually is a break from things you worry about and focus on otherwise.

[Campy]

Compassion, on 06 July 2011 - 09:51 PM, said:

When I have my head in a study book, I certainly am not thinking about being raped, it actually is a break from things you worry about and focus on otherwise.

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What are PTSD symptoms and signs?


The following three groups of symptom criteria are required to assign the diagnosis of PTSD:

• Recurrent re-experiencing of the trauma (for example, troublesome memories, flashbacks that are usually caused by reminders of the traumatic events, recurring nightmares about the trauma and/or dissociative reliving of the trauma)
• Avoidance to the point of having a phobia of places, people, and experiences that remind the sufferer of the trauma or a general numbing of emotional responsiveness
• Chronic physical signs of hyperarousal, including sleep problems, trouble concentrating, irritability, anger, poor concentration, blackouts or difficulty remembering things, increased tendency and reaction to being startled, and hypervigilance (excessive watchfulness) to threat

The emotional numbing of PTSD may present as a lack of interest in activities that used to be enjoyed (anhedonia), emotional deadness, distancing oneself from people, and/or a sense of a foreshortened future (for example, not being able to think about the future or make future plans, not believing one will live much longer). At least one re-experiencing symptom, three avoidance/numbing symptoms, and two hyperarousal symptoms must be present for at least one month and must cause significant distress or functional impairment in order for the diagnosis of PTSD to be assigned. PTSD is considered of chronic duration if it persists for three months or more.

Its just as well you're not suffering these PTSD effects: http://www.medicinen...order/page4.htm

Attached File(s)

•  CDANZ Complaints Procedure.pdf (103.56K)
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[Moeroa]

Taylor ordered the claimant to complete her degree studies (at the claimants continuing on-going expense of course!) qualify for a job & so get off ACC's books at no cost to ACC (remember Taylor boasts a long-standing relationship with ACC, AON, Catalyst, Mac Donnell). Comments about ACC not having to provide vocational rehab demonstrates how much more Alpha CON-inSULT-ants are about denying entitlements than rehab. This claimant had recently been reinstated so it’s in ACC's best interests to find alternative ways to re-exit. Obviously ACC are coercing her to attend sessions or lose weekly payments without back-payments.

Don't forget Taylor (whom I too once had an encounter with) says ACC doesn't owe VR & that claimants should fund their own rehab, just as the claimant had been.


BOYCOTT Alpha CON-inSult-ants.

Compassion, on 06 July 2011 - 09:51 PM, said:

I also aggree with encouraging this woman to keep empowering herself with study (why isn't this guy behind bars if he is a rapist???),

Why do you not know how hard it is to convict a rapist? http://www.sexualabu.../whatisrape.htm

Compassion, on 06 July 2011 - 09:51 PM, said:

I don't buy the run out of money for study thing, as I don't know any students with money, but they take out student loans.

You "don't buy" as you put it because you are clearly unaware of the true cost of obtaining a tertiary education - I am aware. The claimant has been funding her own rehab, which includes cost of travel to classes, books, computer & course equipment (etc) all from her ERC - hence run out of money - get it? I know because I am studying at Albany campus and contrary to what you seem to assert, the student loans actually do not pay for everything. Furthermore the loans must be repaid from taxable income sources, including weekly ACC payments. Why didn't you know that?

Compassion, on 06 July 2011 - 09:51 PM, said:

When I have my head in a study book, I certainly am not thinking about being raped, it actually is a break from things you worry about and focus on otherwise.

Reading for academic study is much different.

[Campy]

Regardless of whether the claimant was upset or not (seems like she had good reason to be) Alpha insultant shouldn't have verbally abused the claimant. That was appallingly unprofessional. The behavours show her ignorance of PTSD and her inadequacy. She was not qualified for the task.

In any case, why can't ACC send disabled claimants to assessors with accessible offices? That would certainly prevent upsets like this, surely?

Oh and about Student Loans; there's another urban myth being perpetuated here, because not everyone can get them. There are restrictions on course length, whether part time or full year or other criteria. http://www.studylink...loan/index.html
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Moe, on 07 July 2011 - 02:30 AM, said:

Taylor ordered the claimant to complete her degree studies (at the claimants continuing on-going expense of course!) qualify for a job & so get off ACC's books at no cost to ACC (remember Taylor boasts a long-standing relationship with ACC, AON, Catalyst, Mac Donnell). Comments about ACC not having to provide vocational rehab demonstrates how much more Alpha CON-inSULT-ants are about denying entitlements than rehab. This claimant had recently been reinstated so it’s in ACC's best interests to find alternative ways to re-exit. Obviously ACC are coercing her to attend sessions or lose weekly payments without back-payments.

Don't forget Taylor (whom I too once had an encounter with) says ACC doesn't owe VR & that claimants should fund their own rehab, just as the claimant had been.


BOYCOTT Alpha CON-inSult-ants.

[Anti Bureaucratic]

Moe, the NZ Herald takes a dim view of this sort of carry on - lack of independence and transparency, and issued ACC a very public warning this week to clean up their act FAST, and that their integrity is already left wanting.

Why don't you contact the Herald with your evidence just so we can really nail the ACC coffin lid closed on these corrupt assessors and ACC processes.

Some staff at ACC and ACC preferred (overused and reliant upon ACC for their primary income) assessors should be VERY nervous.

[Compassion]

QUOTE Why do you not know how hard it is to convict a rapist? http://www.sexualabu.../whatisrape.htm


Compassion, on 06 July 2011 - 10:51 PM, said:

I don't buy the run out of money for study thing, as I don't know any students with money, but they take out student loans.

You "don't buy" as you put it because you are clearly unaware of the true cost of obtaining a tertiary education - I am aware. The claimant has been funding her own rehab, which includes cost of travel to classes, books, computer & course equipment (etc) all from her ERC - hence run out of money - get it? I know because I am studying at Albany campus and contrary to what you seem to assert, the student loans actually do not pay for everything. Furthermore the loans must be repaid from taxable income sources, including weekly ACC payments. Why didn't you know that?



Compassion, on 06 July 2011 - 10:51 PM, said:


When I have my head in a study book, I certainly am not thinking about being raped, it actually is a break from things you worry about and focus on otherwise.

Reading for academic study is much different.


FOR YOUR INFORMATION TO YOUR QUESTIONS

I am studying toward a post grad degree. I am funding it myself with student load. I am doing it as rehab too to be able to help others overcome what i am. and it is the only thing (meds, therapy etc) which got my brain from being stuck on the PTSD. SO despite your assumption of me, not knowing all these things, I hope you now see I was speaking from experience. If you don't get acc comp, you can get study allowance I thougth and student loan. I chose to do extramural so I only have to pay petrol for workshops.

[Compassion]

Oh and one more thing.

yes I am aware that MY large $20 000 + student loan will be repaid by taxable income. This is when I am qualified I can work part time (if needed) still get a reasonable hourly rate and yes pay back slowly my loan.


If this Alpha place has a bad reputation then I hope you will make complaint. I certainly DO NOT condone abuse and I shouldn't (looking back over what I wrote) suggested what that lady was thinking at the time, as I really don't know what goes on in my head, let alone someone elses. I just didnt want this lady to give up her study because it may just be the thing to give her life back to her, like it is me (but then we are all different).....

[Moeroa]

Camp Mother, on 07 July 2011 - 03:32 AM, said:

Regardless of whether the claimant was upset or not (seems like she had good reason to be) Alpha insultant shouldn't have verbally abused the claimant. That was appallingly unprofessional. The behavours show her ignorance of PTSD and her inadequacy. She was not qualified for the task.

In any case, why can't ACC send disabled claimants to assessors with accessible offices? That would certainly prevent upsets like this, surely?

Oh and about Student Loans; there's another urban myth being perpetuated here, because not everyone can get them. There are restrictions on course length, whether part time or full year or other criteria. http://www.studylink...loan/index.html
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The claimant had the right to expect disability safe access. It was up to the Case Manager to refer the claimant to accessible services. It is not the claimant's fault on finding she was basically locked out of the building, that she became upset. She had been warned if she did not attend she would have her weekly payments stopped without refund of those payments.


And of course we know not everyone can get student loans. And there are other costs involved with obtaining tertiary qualifications over and beyond tuition fees, esp. for disabled/injured claimants. ACC should be providing the rehab support.

Anti Bureaucratic, on 07 July 2011 - 11:23 AM, said:

Moe, the NZ Herald takes a dim view of this sort of carry on - lack of independence and transparency, and issued ACC a very public warning this week to clean up their act FAST, and that their integrity is already left wanting.

Why don't you contact the Herald with your evidence just so we can really nail the ACC coffin lid closed on those corrupt assessors and ACC processes.

Some staff at ACC and ACC preferred (overused and reloamt upon ACC income) assessors should be VERY nervous about what will come next and the evidence we have which exposes corruption. This time their can be no excuses.

Do you have a link so I can refer the claimant?

[Campy]

Anti Bureaucratic, on 07 July 2011 - 11:23 AM, said:

Moe, the NZ Herald takes a dim view of this sort of carry on - lack of independence and transparency, and issued ACC a very public warning this week to clean up their act FAST, and that their integrity is already left wanting.

Why don't you contact the Herald with your evidence just so we can really nail the ACC coffin lid closed on those corrupt assessors and ACC processes.

Some staff at ACC and ACC preferred (overused and reloamt upon ACC income) assessors should be VERY nervous about what will come next and the evidence we have which exposes corruption. This time their can be no excuses.

I cannot find the articles you refer to. Any links?






Editorial: ACC's image still tarnished despite review
5:29 AM Tuesday Jul 5, 2011Expand
Photo / Thinkstock
Six months ago, the Herald received extraordinary public feedback when it published a series of articles on the stricter enforcement of the Accident Compensation Corporation's policy of declining to pay for surgery for "pre-existing conditions".

More than 400 people complained about their ACC cases. It quickly became apparent that to save money, the corporation was seizing on age-related degeneration of claimants' bodies to unjustifiably reject their claims for surgery after an injury. As much was highlighted by the large number of surgery cases going to legal review, and a decline in the ACC's success rate.

The corporation's response was to insist that it was merely more strictly applying the legislation under which it worked. That was never convincing. Nor did it help that the Government refused to initiate an independent review of the ACC's handling of claims for elective surgery. As it was, all that eventuated was an internal review. Yet even its findings have been enough to make the ACC concede that it had been rejecting too many claimants and must improve its processes.


While welcome enough, this was too late to prevent damage to the corporation. Because it had sought in the first instance to deny there was a problem, the ACC's credibility has been tarnished. In future, its response when similar issues of patient cover are raised is bound to be treated with greater scepticism. In a similar vein, the tenor of the review, and the ACC's response to it, offer pointers to whether lessons have genuinely been learned, or whether the culture and attitude of the organisation will remain largely unchanged.

Here the scoreboard is somewhat mixed. The scope and value of the internal review was much enhanced by the inclusion of a survey of 500 clients, as well as discussions with surgeons. These revealed a belief that the ACC was not getting the balance right in its decision-making, as well as criticism of the lack of transparency and independence of the corporation's medical advisers. Figures in the review that showed a sharply increased rate of its decisions refusing to pay for surgery being overturned offered further confirmation that the ACC was being too hard-nosed.

It is, therefore, somewhat worrying that the review seeks, in part, to deflect some of the criticism. There are, for example, references to the public's poor level of understanding of the legislative basis for the ACC's elective surgery decision-making. That is little more than passing the buck. What people have picked up on is the reasonableness of the ACC's decisions. Any doubts about these can only be reinforced if many of them are being subsequently overturned.

In that respect, there is an air of unreality about the reaction to the internal review of Denise Cosgrove, the ACC's general manager of claims management. She told the Herald that it did not say the corporation's decisions were wrong. Maybe not, but legal reviews have found plenty of those decisions to be fallible. She also talked about the internal review highlighting "that our decision-making processes could be more robust". Whatever that means.

Hopefully, it indicates the ACC will involve claimants' surgeons more in its decision-making and apply extra expertise where needed, especially before a decision to decline is made. And, hopefully, it will explain its rationale for decisions far more clearly to patients.

No one wants the balance of its decision-making to tip so dramatically that totally unworthy claims for surgery get the green light. But this episode should have been a chastening experience - and one from which the ACC must learn.


http://www.nzherald....jectid=10736357

[Compassion]

Sorry should of mentioned. Within the university they have free services for people with disabilties and assist them, They even let me sit my exams in my own home and i am allowd extra breaks. They provide so much 'extra help' they are fantastic. I had different services offered to me ongoing through the year and a disignated person contacting me regularaly to see what else the uni could do. the open polytech has this same thing too.

Most courses you can get studyloans for, perhaps not ones that are not NZQA recognised, which these community courses are already funded as most requirement to go on them is a benefit of some kind (This is an area I've studied, and disability support etc).

Its going to take me years to finish as I only can concentrate small bits at a time (with another injury) but each day I'm one step closer.

[Moeroa]

Anti Bureaucratic, on 07 July 2011 - 11:23 AM, said:

Moe, the NZ Herald takes a dim view of this sort of carry on - lack of independence and transparency, and issued ACC a very public warning this week to clean up their act FAST, and that their integrity is already left wanting.

Why don't you contact the Herald with your evidence just so we can really nail the ACC coffin lid closed on those corrupt assessors and ACC processes.

Some staff at ACC and ACC preferred (overused and reloamt upon ACC income) assessors should be VERY nervous about what will come next and the evidence we have which exposes corruption. This time their can be no excuses.

Having searched the Herald on-line, I still cannot find the links to his articles which show how the NZ Herald takes a dim view of the lack of independence and transparency yet. Can you help us here?

Anti Bureaucratic, on 07 July 2011 - 10:02 PM, said:

Simon.Collins@nzherald.co.Nz
They're always keen to expose acc/ corrupt assessors. May they all rot in hell Moe.We r coming to get you ACC. .......

[Campy]

Claimants shouldn't have to get student debt, nor risk diabetes (and further disability) to pay for course materials and transport costs, if ACC did their job of rehab.


Student Loan
The Student Loan can help to finance your study. It's made up of three parts - compulsory fees, course-related costs and living costs. You have to pay a Student Loan back.

ON THIS PAGE:

General Student Loan criteriaHow long you can get a Student Loan forReapplying for a Student LoanIf you study overseas
General Student Loan criteria
To get a Student Loan, you'll need to:

• be a New Zealand citizen, permanent resident, refugee or protected person (under the Immigration Act 2009).
• sign a contract with the government
• be enrolled on a Tertiary Education Commission approved course. The course must be full-time (or limited full-time with our approval) or part-time and 32 weeks or longer.
• be a New Zealand citizen or a resident of New Zealand

http://www.studylink...loan/index.html

Compassion, on 07 July 2011 - 10:26 PM, said:

Sorry should of mentioned. Within the university they have free services for people with disabilties and assist them, They even let me sit my exams in my own home and i am allowd extra breaks. They provide so much 'extra help' they are fantastic. I had different services offered to me ongoing through the year and a disignated person contacting me regularaly to see what else the uni could do. the open polytech has this same thing too.

Most courses you can get studyloans for, perhaps not ones that are not NZQA recognised, which these community courses are already funded as most requirement to go on them is a benefit of some kind (This is an area I've studied, and disability support etc).

Its going to take me years to finish as I only can concentrate small bits at a time (with another injury) but each day I'm one step closer.

[Compassion]

"Claimants shouldn't have to get student debt, nor risk diabetes (and further disability) to pay for course materials and transport costs, if ACC did their job of rehab.QUOTED"


Am I missing something?? How does ACC cause diabetes?? What part of acc legislation relates to them paying for education?? As for rehab I think if acc don't give it to you, no point doing nothing, you owe it to yourself to rehabilitate yourself anyway (via other ways),if acc has big turnaround in the meantime and you are then offered rehab, at least you are part way there and focussing on doing something positive for yourself.

[Moeroa]

Camp Mother, on 07 July 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

Claimants shouldn't have to get student debt, nor risk diabetes (and further disability) to pay for course materials and transport costs, if ACC did their job of rehab.

Quite correct, Campo. The claimant has surrendered her healthy eating budget to pay for course materials and petrol to get to her classes. Filling up on cheap fatty stodge coupled with the physical inactivity, she now is at very real risk for type-2 diabetes. ACC should be funding her VR. Instead they'd used her consequent weight gain as excuse to exit her on a previous occasion.

But all is not lost on the Vocational Independence front now is it:

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Vocational Independence

The assessment provided for by the legislation consists of an occupational assessment (which identifies the types of work suitable for the claimant) and a medical assessment (which provides an opinion as to whether the claimant has the capacity to undertake any of the types of work identified in the occupational assessment)

ACC are short circuiting the required process in identifying and treating injuries and providing rehabilitation.

Claimants new to the system with serious injuries are being occupationally assessed and then the Vocational Independence medical assessment is being used as an Initial medical assessment to determine treatment/rehabilitation often before the claimants treating specialists have determined cause and treatment.

Good news for claimants is the Supreme court Judgement. MCGRATH V ACCIDENT COMPENSATION CORPORATION (SC 127/2010) [2011] NZSC 77

The Supreme court has determined that a Vocational Medical Assessment cannot take place unless vocational independence is a reasonable prospect.

The most damming statement in the Judgement being:

[39] The completion of the individual rehabilitation plan also relied on by Mr Hurring, occurred with the receipt of Dr Acland‟s reports of 3 June and 22 July 2008, which were supplemented by the letter from Dr Muir of 8 July 2008. Since these reports described Ms McGrath‟s inability to cope with more hours of work than 15 per week, their substance cannot have been relied upon in forming a view that vocational independence was reasonably in prospect. Rather, the formal completion of the plan seems to have been regarded as justifying the view that it was no longer premature to obtain vocational independence assessment, as if it were the next stage in an inexorable process, without further consideration of whether completion of the plan bore on whether vocational independence was likely, as required by s 110(3)(a).

The Vocational Medical assessment is not just a formality or "part of the process". ACC must have a reasonable expectation that the claimant is able to work full time before taking this step.

So as long as a claimant has the support of their GP and treating specialists with both stating that the claimant is unable to sustain more than 15 or 20 hours work per week then ACC cannot start the vocational exit.

The question that needs asking of ACC is that with the McGrath decision is ACC going to revisit every decision where claimants who have been exited?

Camp Mother, on 07 July 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

General Student Loan criteria
To get a Student Loan, you'll need to:

• be enrolled on a Tertiary Education Commission approved course. The course must be full-time (or limited full-time with our approval) or part-time and 32 weeks or longer.

My point exactly.